Any thoughts on this one? Looks like classic internal Labour Party politics.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/...st/8566867.stm
The NEC documents are well worth scanning over.
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Any thoughts on this one? Looks like classic internal Labour Party politics.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/...st/8566867.stm
The NEC documents are well worth scanning over.
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This has been brewing for years and as someone born, bred and still living in East Lothian, Moffat's not a patch on John Home Robertson as an MP. She's well known as someone who is out for herself and this has been the case since she was a councillor. AFAIK, most of her support is coming from the unions.
Still, it'll be to the benefit of the other parties if she stays as the Labour PPC so let's hope she survives!
It is, although East Lothian is a real Labour stronghold. IIRC the Lib Dems were runner up in the last election in EL. Can't remember how close they were though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beefster
I certainly won't be voting Labour in May regardless of Anne Moffat being the candidate or not.
The SNP beat Labour in the European vote there last year; that's one of the points that the local party is complaining about.
Whatever the poor woman's politics (and they are dire!) is she not entitled to some slack since she is recovering from a brain tumour?? (Who would wish that on anyone??)
Perhaps East Lothian LP are only thinking of her health.Quote:
Originally Posted by ancienthibby
I wouldn't wish that on anyone, but if it impacts on her ability to carry out a high profile job she shouldn't be doing the job.Quote:
Originally Posted by ancienthibby
She has been a woefully inept politician for East Lothian. I know people that have written to her, and she isn't even polite enough to respond. They have received a short standard response from her secretary.
I have never seen her out canvassing in East Lothian. She had the highest travel expenses of any MP a few years back. There is no doubt she is only in it for herself, and the accusations of bullying are quite simply pathetic.
As a constituent MP she hasn't been seen to be standing up for East Lothian, and any MP that ignores constituents and treats them with the contempt she does deserves the boot.
When I was 10 or 11 I went down to Downing Street with her and met Tony and Cherie Blair and had lunch there. That was fantastic but as I have got older and understand politics a lot more, it's clear that she is not a suitable candidate to be our MP, for many reasons already detailed. One of my good friends is a Labour member in East Lothian and some of the things he tells me are certainly stunning.
I hope she doesn't get deselected though, hopefully Andrew Sharp can pull it off.
Bless Glenn Campbell - he's trying his best for her, like he always does. He's such a Labour party stooge.Quote:
Originally Posted by Part/Time Supporter
:agree: I can imagine. She really is the perfect example of a politician who is in it for herself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Calvino
You're right as well in that if she remains the labour party candidate, the SNP are almost a stick on to win, which will be great for a much needed change in East Lothian.
She has been de-selected:agree: Glen Campbell reporting from Haddington with the local riff raff lobbing empty juice bottles at him:faf:
Seen Moffat more in the media this week than i have on the streets of Tranent during her tenure.
Is he gutted?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbie_Cameron
When I saw Campbell on the news he was standing in Port Seton in the Co-op car park with a backdrop of the Wemyss and Red paper shop!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbie_Cameron
So farewell then Anne Moffat
I fight on
Yes that is your catchphrase
Some might say you don't listen
What next, someone stealing a parkie's whistle? I see it's as boring as ever down there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Calvino
Anybody got a link or know where I can see Campbell's report from Haddy? I want to see if I recognise this 'local riff-raff!'
Iain Gray is now a "Coward"
Keep digging Anne. What an absolute fool. You've now successfully pissed off Iain Gray, Local Labour Party, Local Constituents(for years) as well as making an arse of yourself on national news.
Pension deal for selection row MP Anne Moffat
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An MP who was deselected by the Labour party after local activists accused her of incompetence could receive a pension worth tens of thousands of pounds.
Anne Moffat, who represents East Lothian, said she has a deal in place to retire due to ill health.
This is despite her arguing that she should be able to stand for the party in the next general election.
Ms Moffat, 51, could receive a pension of about £30,000 a year plus a one-off payment of £32,000.
She said she kept the deal secret so that her opponents in the constituency did not know she planned to step down.
One of the criteria for receiving an ill health pension from the Commons is that you can no longer perform the duties of an MP.
Anne Moffat secured her deal some time ago although she has argued that she should continue to represent Labour in East Lothian beyond the general election.
Ms Moffat suffered a brain haemorrhage last year but still fought against opponents in her local party who wanted her out.
She lost that battle when the party's national executive agreed to de-select her.
The ill health retirement, means she will be paid a pension which assumes she served as an MP until she was 65.
The exact details of Ms Moffat's agreement are not known.
The East Lothian constituency Labour party voted to deselect Ms Moffat as its candidate for the General Election, at a meeting in Haddington on 19 March.
Activists voted to drop her as a candidate by 130 votes to 59.
The MP has been locked in a bitter dispute with local party members. They accused her of incompetence and she said she had suffered intimidation and persecution.
She was elected to represent East Lothian in 2001.
An absolute disgrace, a huge 'up yours' to her constituents and reveals the lack of class and integrity in the woman.Quote:
Originally Posted by Part/Time Supporter
As I said early on in this thread, she's out for herself and no-one else.
Unbelievable. Didn't think she could get any lower, yet today she has managed. 9 years paying lip service to a job, complete contempt for her constituents and she now retires on a pension of £30k!! Nice work if you can get it.
Greedy, self righteous money grabbing ersehole. All she has done for our constituency is continually show the rest of Scotland that she is taking us for a ride with every single negative headline she makes.
Yesterday she tells voters to vote tory. Her actions of fighting against de selection even though she knew she wouldn't fight on has caused havoc for the local labour party forcing them to find a new candidate with weeks to go to the election.
How anybody can vote for a Scottish Labour candidate in May is beyond me after this shambles and the Stephen Purcell saga.
I'm with you on this. I thought I'd heard it all until this morning. If she was so ill, why did she have the nerve to think she could do a stressful job like being and MP? Oh, wait a minute......Quote:
Originally Posted by GlesgaeHibby
It really 100% proves what we all knew all along. She was in it purely for money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Filled Rolls
:agree: She is a disgrace. Not because she is in it for the money, but because she is a liar. Did I see Lord Foulkes of Cumnock sitting beside her on the news tonight?Quote:
Originally Posted by GlesgaeHibby
I'm finding some of these Labour Party downfalls far, far too pleasing; Geoff Hoon's in particular. The leader of the Ashfield council (Hoon's constituency) was on the radio the other day after the latest scandal and gave him the most fantastic dressing down. Transcription:
I would like to tell you I was shocked and surprised but frankly I wasn't. I'd have been more shocked and surprised if he'd said “you know what, I don't want this money I'm already a multi-millionaire. I want to devote the rest of my political career, such as it will be, to the working class people of Ashfield". That would have made me fall off my seat.
I was disgusted really. Here you've got a man, who's quite frankly a cold-blooded, unprincipled usurper of a once great political party and it stinks. But the real tragedy is that it's not just about Geoff. Here's a man who personifies an entire generation of middle class Labour MPs who've had absolutely no affinity with or understanding of the people they're supposed to represent.
Last May we had the same thing where we had the expenses row and in Nottinghamshire we had the county council elections and in the entire district of Ashfield only myself and one of my colleagues got back – just. Every single door you knocked on they said the same thing "I'll vote for you but I'm not voting for Geoff". Frankly, you couldn't defend it and I didn't even try. I just said "thank you" and walked off.
This is a man who really didn't care about the ordinary working class people in Ashfield, who was out for his own career. In a sense I don't blame Geoff for that. If you're a careerist what is the one thing that you're motivated by? Money and making money. Well that’s great if you're a butcher but you're a politician and particularly if you're a Labour politician you're supposed to working for the working class people that vote you in. I saw little of that in Geoff's time.
As I say my real issue now is not Geoff because he's announced he's going to resign anyway but soon the entire parliamentary Labour Party will be absolutely filled to the gunwales with this kind of person. It really needs review and reform from within and I'm really looking to the Prime Minister to sort this out.
If we carry on like this it will be the slow death of the Labour Party. It's like a black hole that's going to implode on itself.
Hoon the lickspittle Blairite running dog made the ultimate mistake which was to go against the Great Leader. As soon as he did that, his fate was sealed.Quote:
Originally Posted by LiverpoolHibs
Yes, Lord Foulkes of Cumnock was sitting with "moneybags" Moffat:agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by Filled Rolls
I was not shocked at all when i saw todays headline story in the EEN, the woman has done nothing for years but claim expenses and draw a wage
Brown likes his politics dirty. Add to this that he is a megalomaniac, then however ineffective he is as a Prime Minister and was as Chancellor, it's a lethal combination.Quote:
Originally Posted by Filled Rolls
Hoon is of course, a total fanbelt but it seems a bit of a "coincidence" that it was Hoon and Hewitt in particular who were hit by this sting.
Was Byers not in on the plot as well? I've got to admit, I like the way that Stalin has dealt with these twats. At times like these the country needs a strong leader.......etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by steakbake
Byers is a Blairite. I'm not sure what is said about him or what plots he's been involved in but no doubt like the rest of them, he's a scheming manipulative bawbag.Quote:
Originally Posted by Filled Rolls
If the liberal left weren't in control of this country with their cotton wool, namby pamby political correctness fascism, these three traitors would be dragged out and shot at dawn... in public... then their families charged for the bullets...
I'd pull the trigger myself... etc etc.
Is he not the bloke that told an undercover journo that he was like a "cab for hire" when it comes to lobbying.Quote:
Originally Posted by steakbake
Yes - him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Filled Rolls
But I mean whether apart from that, he's involved in plotting in the same way Hoon and Hewitt have done.
In other words, I'm not quite sure what he's done to anger The Great Leader.
I just think it is a little too convenient that Hoon and Hewitt were two of the targets on the Dispatches programme. You don't have to dig too far in Westminster to find dirt. Bet they could have set up a Cabinet Minister, or one of the Shadow Cabinet if they'd wanted to. Why Hoon, Hewitt and Byers? TGL's enemies.
Byers and Brown have a lot of history.....Quote:
Originally Posted by steakbake
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...step-down.html
Even more of a coincidence, then.
Hoon, Hewitt and Byers... trapped in a sting? On TV? How convenient... :hmmm:
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Originally Posted by Beefster
This from a Blairite tart who will sell his services to whoever is willing to pay for them.Quote:
Stephen Byers, the Blairite former Cabinet Minister, increased the pressure on Gordon Brown by calling for his immediate resignation, accusing him of governing without values or principles.
In his defence, most people would sell their services to whomever would pay for them. Byers' and co's real crime was admitting that government policy is amended to suit the corporations that are paying MPs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Filled Rolls
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Originally Posted by steakbake
Just came across this one. You really think that Channel 4's Dispatches is under the control of Gordon Brown? What is the weather like on your planet?
I think you need to look into how politics/journalism works. You'll be telling us JFK was shot by a single bullet next.Quote:
Originally Posted by One Day Soon
Ministers have their pet journalists they can rely on to help them out. Even if it wasn't a favoured journalist that covered this story, a simple leak from a high ranking minister - such as Mandelson - would be all it would take to make this a story worth following.
The fact that the three people who took on Brown, ended up with egg on their faces less than three months later has to be more than coincidence.