The Greatest Scot

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08-11-2009, 06:49 PM
Speedy

The Greatest Scot

http://scotland.stv.tv/greatest-scot/

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/ed...6908-21639406/

Who would you choose? Is there anyone missing?

I'd probably go for James Maxwell. I was half expecting Archie Gemmill to be on the list :greengrin
08-11-2009, 08:10 PM
AFKA5814_Hibs

Can anyone enlighten me as to why J K Rowling is nominated for greatest ever Scot?

She has lived in Scotland for just over 15 years, that doesn't make her Scottish. Alex Ferguson has lived in England for over 20 years, does that make him English? :confused:
08-11-2009, 08:15 PM
Minder

No mention of Gordon Brown
:devil:

Bruce or Burns for me.
08-11-2009, 10:55 PM
Mixu62

Alexander Fleming for me. All I know about him is that he discovered penecillin, which has to be the biggest life-saving substance in history. Beyond that I know nowt about him, but to me that's enough.

Failing that, the only other name on the DR's list that can come close is Lulu. Her contribution to global literacy is enourmous, as every time she appears on TV, I switch off and read a book.
09-11-2009, 12:11 AM
cabbageandribs1875

SCIENTISTS & ENGINEERS category

i'l be biased and go for a bathgate born man, sir james young simpson http://www.geo.ed.ac.uk/scotgaz/peop...usfirst60.html

imo :greengrin

do they take a winner from each category and have a final five up for vote ? imagine a foul-mouthed 'comedian' possibly ending up being voted the greatest scot ffs :bitchy::grr: either way, surely the overall winner must come from the scientist & engineering category :agree:
09-11-2009, 12:37 AM
Greentinted

I'd swap Rowling for Sir Walter Scott whose many achievements should at least be acknowledged. James Hogg as well should be there but hey, what do I know?
09-11-2009, 12:49 AM
Just Jimmy

Quote:

Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875

sir james young simpson :agree:

Ma Auld man :greengrin:wink:
09-11-2009, 01:25 AM
Marabou Stork

I've been sat here for about 5 minutes shaking my head as to how some of the people on that list have been included at the expense of James Watt.
09-11-2009, 01:43 AM
Speedy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marabou Stork

I've been sat here for about 5 minutes shaking my head as to how some of the people on that list have been included at the expense of James Watt.

He was the first person I thought of that wasn't on the list.

It's good to think that we have so many people that have made such an impact in their field.
09-11-2009, 07:16 AM
lyonhibs

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mixu62

Alexander Fleming for me. All I know about him is that he discovered penecillin, which has to be the biggest life-saving substance in history. Beyond that I know nowt about him, but to me that's enough. :agree: :agree:

Failing that, the only other name on the DR's list that can come close is Lulu. Her contribution to global literacy is enourmous, as every time she appears on TV, I switch off and read a book.

I'd be astounded if anyone other than Fleming wins it.
09-11-2009, 08:34 AM
GlesgaeHibby

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mixu62

Alexander Fleming for me. All I know about him is that he discovered penecillin, which has to be the biggest life-saving substance in history. Beyond that I know nowt about him, but to me that's enough.

Failing that, the only other name on the DR's list that can come close is Lulu. Her contribution to global literacy is enourmous, as every time she appears on TV, I switch off and read a book.

If you're not allergic to it :grr::greengrin

Being biased, I just can't see past Maxwell. He is up there with Newton and Einstein in terms of what he achieved. His work paved the way for Einstein's theory of relativity and helped form a new branch of physics, quantum mechanics. This paved the way to really deepen our understanding of the universe at the large and small scales, advancing man's knowledge.

Should be a close one though!
09-11-2009, 10:35 AM
Phil D. Rolls

Quote:

Originally Posted by AFKA5814_Hibs

Can anyone enlighten me as to why J K Rowling is nominated for greatest ever Scot?

She has lived in Scotland for just over 15 years, that doesn't make her Scottish. Alex Ferguson has lived in England for over 20 years, does that make him English? :confused:

A very good point. I suppose it is up to the individual to decide if they are Scottish or not.

I wouldn't vote for her though.
09-11-2009, 11:03 AM
LiverpoolHibs

J.K. Rowling in the arts section but no James Kelman, Tom Leonard or Hugh MacDiarmid. Deary, deary me.

And no John Maclean or James Maxton. Pah...
09-11-2009, 11:28 AM
Green Mikey

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiverpoolHibs

J.K. Rowling in the arts section but no James Kelman, Tom Leonard or Hugh MacDiarmid. Deary, deary me.

And no John Maclean or James Maxton. Pah...

Come on LH, the Diehard fils weren't that great:wink:

I don't see why we should choose a winner, choosing one individual from a already limited list does a great disservice to the history of our country. IMO we should be celebrating our heritage and the great people that have come from our country not just naming one person as the 'greatest'.
09-11-2009, 11:39 AM
LiverpoolHibs

Quote:

Originally Posted by Green Mikey

Come on LH, the Diehard fils weren't that great:wink:

I don't see why we should choose a winner, choosing one individual from a already limited list does a great disservice to the history of our country. IMO we should be celebrating our heritage and the great people that have come from our country not just naming one person as the 'greatest'.

:tee hee:

I should have see that coming.

For the second part, surely no-one really takes this sort of thing very seriously anyway? Although not being Scottish it's probably not even my place to criticise it.
09-11-2009, 11:59 AM
Green Mikey

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiverpoolHibs

:tee hee:

I should have see that coming.

For the second part, surely no-one really takes this sort of thing very seriously anyway? Although not being Scottish it's probably not even my place to criticise it.

You're probably right. It just annoys me that there has to be an X-factor style winner of this program. Why should history have a winner!

One day I would like to see a program that doesn't need a 'winner' decided through premium rate phone lines or have the irritatingly pointless texts of viewers read out every 10 minutes:grr:

Rant over!!!
09-11-2009, 01:53 PM
RyeSloan

Tis nonsense....how can you compare or contrast the acheivements of someone like Rennie MacKintosh to Alex Ferguson to willima Wallace.....or take Hume over Smith when each added so much to our understanding of the world.

As Green Mikey says it's a rather daft concept that a Nation must have the greatest ever citizen competition but I would take it further.....if you need a competition or vote to decide who is the 'greatest' then clearly there has not been someone yet suited to such an accolde because if there was it would be obvious to all who is shall be!!
09-11-2009, 01:54 PM
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This is garbage.

No mention of James Watt, James Telfer, John Knox, Walter Scott, James Hogg, David Hume, John Duns Scotus, Andrew Fletcher of Saltoun, David Livingston, Hugh McDairmid, Sorley Maclean, John Paul Jones ....

Whoever drew up that list is a total ignoramus. :yawn:
09-11-2009, 02:57 PM
Scouse Hibee

Quote:

Originally Posted by AFKA5814_Hibs

Can anyone enlighten me as to why J K Rowling is nominated for greatest ever Scot?

She has lived in Scotland for just over 15 years, that doesn't make her Scottish. Alex Ferguson has lived in England for over 20 years, does that make him English? :confused:

I've lived here for 17 years does that make me Scottish? NO IT DOES NOT, NEVER!!
09-11-2009, 04:17 PM
Tomsk

So desperate are they to get some women into the poll that they have included Ann Gloag, a rat-faced, sweat-shop capitalist and purveyor of shoody goods who would shoot people in the face before letting them on to 'her land', and JK Rowling, whose claim to fame is conning middle class brats into buying the same book seven times and isn't even Scottish. For vuck's sake they even mention Lulu at one point.
09-11-2009, 05:05 PM
Beefster

People's Choice - David Tennant

Sweet Jesus....

It's got to be Maxwell or Fleming.
09-11-2009, 05:40 PM
lapsedhibee

Quote:

Originally Posted by Green Mikey

You're probably right. It just annoys me that there has to be an X-factor style winner of this program. Why should history have a winner!

One day I would like to see a program that doesn't need a 'winner' decided through premium rate phone lines or have the irritatingly pointless texts of viewers read out every 10 minutes:grr:

Rant over!!!

:agree: Tellybox for morons, imbeciles, idiots and yams.
09-11-2009, 07:17 PM
Hibrandenburg

Douglas Haig :duck:

Was he a Jambo?
09-11-2009, 07:24 PM
Sergey

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doddie

This is garbage.

No mention of James Watt, James Telfer, John Knox, Walter Scott, James Hogg, David Hume, John Duns Scotus, Andrew Fletcher of Saltoun, David Livingston, Hugh McDairmid, Sorley Maclean, John Paul Jones ....

Whoever drew up that list is a total ignoramus. :yawn:

Someone else who should be included :agree:

Thomas_Blake_Glover
09-11-2009, 07:33 PM
Hiber-nation

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomsk

So desperate are they to get some women into the poll that they have included Ann Gloag, a rat-faced, sweat-shop capitalist and purveyor of shoody goods who would shoot people in the face before letting them on to 'her land', and JK Rowling, whose claim to fame is conning middle class brats into buying the same book seven times and isn't even Scottish. For vuck's sake they even mention Lulu at one point.

:shocked:

No....noooo please you are kidding me. I think I'd rather vote for Sheena Easton.
09-11-2009, 07:57 PM
SteveHFC

The greatest scot should be William Wallace.
09-11-2009, 08:05 PM
Phil D. Rolls

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scouse Hibee

I've lived here for 17 years does that make me Scottish? NO IT DOES NOT, NEVER!!

You can be if you want to.
09-11-2009, 08:26 PM
Peevemor

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mainboy

The greatest scot should be William Wallace.

I thought he was American/Australian. :wink:
10-11-2009, 09:26 AM
jodjam

My girlfriends lad is to do a talk on great Scots in his P5 class. Kids got to pick names out a hat. Think he was wanting Wallace or Burns but ended up with James Galbraith. Don't think he's too enthused about his choice.
10-11-2009, 09:50 AM
Tinyclothes

Smeato for me.
10-11-2009, 10:27 AM
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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hiberlin

Douglas Haig :duck:

Was he a Jambo?

IIRC he managed to kill off a fair percentage of at least one Heart of Midlothian football team....

Maybe that makes him a jambocide. :devil:
10-11-2009, 10:28 AM
Betty Boop

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomsk

So desperate are they to get some women into the poll that they have included Ann Gloag, a rat-faced, sweat-shop capitalist and purveyor of shoody goods who would shoot people in the face before letting them on to 'her land', and JK Rowling, whose claim to fame is conning middle class brats into buying the same book seven times and isn't even Scottish. For vuck's sake they even mention Lulu at one point.

What about Flora McDonald or Maw Broon? :greengrin
10-11-2009, 10:37 AM
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Quote:

Originally Posted by Betty Boop

What about Flora McDonald or Maw Broon? :greengrin

Desperate Dan's Aunt Aggie?

Betty the Auld Slapper from "Chewin' the Fat"?

Janette Krankie?

No dafter than Lulu....
10-11-2009, 11:04 AM
Tomsk

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doddie

Desperate Dan's Aunt Aggie?

Betty the Auld Slapper from "Chewin' the Fat"?

Janette Krankie?

No dafter than Lulu....

For the sake of accuracy it should be understood that Lulu is not listed among the ... ahem ... great Scots. She appears in the list of those who have not been short-listed. It appears we are to conclude that there are soooo many great Scots to choose from that-- incredibly -- there is just not space for the dubious cabaret act and Weegie bockle that is Lulu.

Among many other great Scots women who have been shamefully ignored are Bonnie Langford, Helen Liddell, Wendy Alexander, Mrs Doubtfire, Fran and Anna and Maisie the Morningside Cat. Oh! And Marie Curie. Who is as Scottish as JK Rowling.
10-11-2009, 11:56 AM
lapsedhibee

Quote:

Originally Posted by jodjam

My girlfriends lad is to do a talk on great Scots in his P5 class. Kids got to pick names out a hat. Think he was wanting Wallace or Burns but ended up with James Galbraith. Don't think he's too enthused about his choice.

:confused: :dunno:
10-11-2009, 12:08 PM
Tomsk

Quote:

Originally Posted by lapsedhibee

:confused: :dunno:

JK Galbraith, the Canadian economist? Except his name was John. :confused:

Or maybe it's yon fellae who used to play the flute. :wink:
10-11-2009, 12:16 PM
lapsedhibee

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomsk

Or maybe it's yon fellae who used to play the flute. :wink:

That was Ray Galton, who taught himself flute during scriptwriting time-outs when he worked with Alan Simpson.
10-11-2009, 05:03 PM
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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomsk

JK Galbraith, the Canadian economist? Except his name was John. :confused:

Or maybe it's yon fellae who used to play the flute. :wink:

Which one? Half the guys in North Lanarkshire play the flute. :cool2:
10-11-2009, 05:34 PM
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Donald Findlay QC.

He'll defend anyone.
10-11-2009, 05:48 PM
jodjam

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomsk

JK Galbraith, the Canadian economist? Except his name was John. :confused:

Or maybe it's yon fellae who used to play the flute. :wink:

Its an Edinburgh man who invented the Steam-Hammer. Really exciting for a 9 yr old to write about :boo hoo:
10-11-2009, 06:00 PM
lapsedhibee

Quote:

Originally Posted by jodjam

Its an Edinburgh man who invented the Steam-Hammer. Really exciting for a 9 yr old to write about :boo hoo:

Probably keep the teacher happier by spelling Galbraith "Nasmyth". :wink:
10-11-2009, 08:31 PM
ArabHibee

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomsk

So desperate are they to get some women into the poll that they have included Ann Gloag, a rat-faced, sweat-shop capitalist and purveyor of shoddy goods who would shoot people in the face before letting them on to 'her land', and JK Rowling, whose claim to fame is conning middle class brats into buying the same book seven times and isn't even Scottish. For vuck's sake they even mention Lulu at one point.

:top markson the bold bit. Also very good at the line "Do you know who I am?". Totally fanny of a woman.
10-11-2009, 08:50 PM
jodjam

Quote:

Originally Posted by lapsedhibee

Probably keep the teacher happier by spelling Galbraith "Nasmyth". :wink:

haha you are right mate. it dawned on me 20 mins ago so thought best log on to correct. Guess that rules me out of the running for great Scot.
14-11-2009, 05:34 PM
Mibbes Aye

Diego Maradona :agree:
14-11-2009, 05:42 PM
Mibbes Aye

More seriously, Marie Stopes.
14-11-2009, 06:05 PM
FranckSuzy

What about Elsie Inglis?
14-11-2009, 06:09 PM
greenlex

Eric Liddell (although born in China) should be in with a shout IMO.
Putting aside his "Chariots of Fire" olympic performances he was also an International egg chaser and a missionary. He is however probably more revered in China than here. An all round fantastic human being.
14-11-2009, 06:20 PM
Leicester Fan

Tbf to you lads you haven't got many to chose from. Personally I think Wee Jimmy Kranky is the most impressive Scots man I've ever seen.:wink:
14-11-2009, 06:54 PM
Mibbes Aye

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leicester Fan

Tbf to you lads you haven't got many to chose from. Personally I think Wee Jimmy Kranky is the most impressive Scots man I've ever seen.:wink:

:agree:

Good shout.

Given that Gok Wan is the most famous Leicesterite I can think of, then it's no wonder that Jimmy Kranky is the most impressive Scots man you can cite :greengrin
14-11-2009, 09:16 PM
Leicester Fan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mibbes Aye...®

:agree:

Good shout.

Given that Gok Wan is the most famous Leicesterite I can think of, then it's no wonder that Jimmy Kranky is the most impressive Scots man you can cite :greengrin

Don't let that gay act fool you. What better way is there to get womens' kit off?
16-11-2009, 06:28 PM
Mixu62

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leicester Fan

Don't let that gay act fool you. What better way is there to get womens' kit off?

What about Gary Linekar? As a famous Leicestrian, not a convincing gay act...... even though he is.....:devil:
17-11-2009, 02:14 PM
hibbybrian

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doddie

Donald Findlay QC.

He'll defend anyone.

:agree:and no surrender either :greengrin
17-11-2009, 04:11 PM
Dashing Bob S

Gutted that Gary MacKay hasn't even been listed.
18-11-2009, 06:26 AM
Hibrandenburg

Vladimir Romanov for his services to Scottish football :agree:
18-11-2009, 03:53 PM
(((Fergus)))

Quote:

Originally Posted by greenlex

Eric Liddell (although born in China) should be in with a shout IMO.
Putting aside his "Chariots of Fire" olympic performances he was also an International egg chaser and a missionary. He is however probably more revered in China than here. An all round fantastic human being.

:agree: The only one I've seen proposed that didn't have a serious flaw in their character.
18-11-2009, 04:27 PM
Dashing Bob S

No Sandy Clark either. They are truly having a laugh.

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