Dundee are probably paying more...Quote:
Originally Posted by too_many_djs
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Dundee are probably paying more...Quote:
Originally Posted by too_many_djs
I would have signed Maybury for that reason alone. Also, in the game I saw him play for us he looked like exactly what we need at full back ie somebody who actually knows what they need to do in that position and are comfortable doing it. I just hope we are aiming higher. However, I have an awful feeling that the other SPL clubs are now back in the game financially and so it's going to be same old same old for us when it comes to signing players. Do we NEVER learn?Quote:
Originally Posted by West Upper Pie
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Originally Posted by Steve-O
Came from the horses mouth.....my cousin is a saints fan and he was getting his autograph and started talking about what teams he knows in the splQuote:
Originally Posted by IFONLY
It was reported on Radio Tay yest morning that new Huns tried to sign Vine. I guess that some clubs probably put a call into his agent after he scored a couple of goals in a friendly against Bristol City on Saturday, but he had already committed to sign for Saints.Quote:
Originally Posted by CRAZYHIBBY
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Originally Posted by CRAZYHIBBY
Sorry no , your cousin told you , thats not the horses mouth
We should remember that 'outbid' often means 'paid more than we were prepared to pay' rather than a factual statement 'they pay their players more than we do'. If PF is working within an overall budget, presumably each player he goes for is worth, to him, a certain percentage of the overall budget, depending on how much we need him & how much he'll bring to the squad.
From yesterday's BBC football rumours
"Rangers have offered a contract to Craig Beattie but the former Celtic striker is weighing up a more lucrative offer from Notts County. (Daily Express) "
I recognise that there might be things that apply specifically to individual players and how much clubs want them. However, in general terms, if the Maybury and Vine stories are true, we are being outbid by other SPL clubs. They in turn are being outbid by New Huns. New Huns are being outbid by English League 1 sides. So what does that say about the kind of money/contracts we are offering?
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Originally Posted by Steve-O
They do have a recent history of excellent financial management
Why Motherwell , StJohnstone , Aberdeen , Hearts , Dunfermline and StMirren have all out bid us in the pastQuote:
Originally Posted by scoopyboy
For whom?Quote:
Originally Posted by hibees 7062
If Maybury goes to Dundee I'd imagine it would be to do with him getting a regular starting place? As they surely cant offer more money than us!
According to bbc gossip website dundee and st johnstone are in a tug of war for the signing of forsyth never mentioned a thing about hibs :(
Despite the maxim, 'cash is king' , I'm not convinced that all this 'outbidding' is money ridden. I think these guys obviously look at the cash comparisons but, unless there is a significant difference, they look at the football quality and prospects of the teams and act accordingly. Unfortunately, II think it speaks volumes for our present reputation.
I'm sure the club will have some ready made excuses for this scenario.
Seriously, how ****ing embarassing is it to be outbid by teams with a lower budget than us? The "we don't have funds" rule does not apply when teams like St Johnstone, Aberdeen and potentially Dundee are spending money we don't claim to have and finishing above us. Change the record Hibs.
You havent seen my cousin.......looks like an ugly mr edQuote:
Originally Posted by IFONLY
We didn't want to increase our offer to match a player who's career is winding downs demands. Calm down about being outbid. Let's see who we target from now on.
As this is a rumours thread I just had a look at Pravda aka Football Rumours. Easy seen its the school holidays. Names currently being spraffed about -
Kevin Kyle - ''will sign Friday''
Steven Thompson - ''will sign' 'St Mirren can't afford the last year of his contract'
David Van Zanten and Alan Combe
Stefan Mairhofer - Austrian internationalist
along with Maybury and Kerr there is a long conversation about whether Jason Scotland played as a triaist at Selkirk:greengrin
Motherwell , Hamell , StJohnstone , Sandaza and Sheridan , Aberdeen Hayes and Kane , Hearts , where do i start , Dunfermline , Brewster and Crawford , StMirren Thompson and GoodwinQuote:
Originally Posted by Lucius Apuleius
There is four players on that list which signed for the clubs due to other reasons. Hammell is a Motherwell man, same for Thompson and St Mirren. Goodwin signed on for saints again as he is the club captain and gets on extremely well with Danny Lennon, who he wanted to stay with and not turn his back on. Hayes went to Aberdeen due to his girlfriend.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibees 7062
are people seriously getting stressed out because st johnstone are willing to offer an unfit striker with a poor goalscoring record at championship and league 1, more money than we are?
And do people honestly think that motherwell, dunfermline, aberdeen, st mirren, st johnstone have higher player budgets than us? do you think any of them could have afforded miller or stokes? or even GoC for that matter?
[QUOTE=M17;3310975]There is four players on that list which signed for the clubs due to other reasons. Hammell is a Motherwell man, same for Thompson and St Mirren. Goodwin signed on for saints again as he is the club captain and gets on extremely well with Danny Lennon, who he wanted to stay with and not turn his back on. Hayes went to Aberdeen due to his girlfriend.[/QUOTE . Seems like all their minds were made up before they ALL waisted Hibs their agent and their own time and money talking . We were out bidded for all these players , fact
Start wherever you like, how many of these players did we actually bid for?Quote:
Originally Posted by hibees 7062
[QUOTE=hibees 7062;3310983]Ah, I am so sorry, I never saw that bit. OK then, I bow to your superior inside knowledge and apologise unreservedly. Having said that I think the rules are that is has to be FACT!!! before it actually counts.Quote:
Originally Posted by M17
Hibs spoke to all these players , they went elsewhere for more moneyQuote:
Originally Posted by Lucius Apuleius
QUOTE . Seems like all their minds were made up before they ALL waisted Hibs their agent and their own time and money talking . We were out bidded for all these players , fact[/QUOTE]
Also, I dont think we were even interested in Sandaza when he signed for saints. The four players I mentioned all signed for the clubs for other reasons outside money, therefore we werent out bidded. We were able to blow Well out the water when we signed Clancy, surely we would've been able to do the same with Hammell?
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Originally Posted by hibees 7062
At the end of the day we are being linked with every player out of contract. Lazy journalism or whatever you want to call it. Just cos other teams have signed players doesn't mean we've been in for them.
However I am really hoping we announce something (not expecting anything) before Sunday which will give us all a wee boost.
Remember not many folk knew bout Williams and there were apparent doubt bout McPake. I am sure PF and LOB are doing their upmost to get the Right players in.
Don't go telling folk we offered higher wages than another SPL team for a player we wanted, how would that suit the agenda!Quote:
Originally Posted by M17
This outbid stuff is nonsense, yes money is a factor but like any business you decide on the players merits as to what they are worth. If another team sees a player as an integral part of their season then they might well offer more. Maybury would be first pick at Dens I imagine, while he might have been told he isn't guaranteed a first team berth with us.
How would folk feel if we didn't get Maybury but Mark Wilson was the target?
:not worth:not worth:not worth:not worth:not worth:not worth:not worth:aok:Quote:
Originally Posted by hibees 7062