Comments in the press or media where someones wage is quoted or stating how much someone has paid or spent when really it is all speculation and guess work.
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Comments in the press or media where someones wage is quoted or stating how much someone has paid or spent when really it is all speculation and guess work.
I understand, and it is infuriating. The one that pops out and gives you a heart attack I would say can be a genuine mistake as the bottle has not been crushed too much. However when the bottle has been savagely abused is just not on!Quote:
Originally Posted by sleeping giant
2 things trigger in my mind, the person has squeezed the bottle whilst pouring, which usually results in splashes on the bunker.
If there is no splashes then the unthinkable has occurred and the contents consumed direct from the bottle :bitchy:
Places which charge an arm and a leg for a cup of coffee and look at you with disdain when you ask for artificial sweeteners. Especially the ones who go on to add insult to injury by suggesting you should carry your own around with you.
Get one of these. Nuisance calls disappear overnight.Quote:
Originally Posted by heretoday
https://www.amazon.co.uk/BT8500-Enha...words=bt+phone
Follk that kick up all manner of fuss if someone says something about them or speaks to them even the slightest bit off, but go about treating everyone else like rubbish without batting an eyelid about it.
Folk on this forum who think basic arithmetic is a dark art!
There are various threads running at the moment where questions like "can Hearts still finish bottom six" or "can we win the league by beating QoS next week" are constantly asked.
Look at the league table, it's not difficult to work out.
Sorry 😂Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperAllyMcleod
In my defence it's because I'm a lazy *******.
Lose/ loose wtf is wrong with people ?
My neighbour who let their little rat of a dog out in the garden an hour ago and it hasn't stopped barking since, they have done absolutely nothing to stop it, neighbourly relations are about to take a turn for the worse as I'm about to go for a chat
Pedantic Hibby has the answer for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mon Dieu4
Lift said dog into your garden and let it bark away. See how your neighbour likes it :greengrin
Now, now, don't loose your temper :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by stoneyburn hibs
Songs/chants at protests.
The amount of times shop assistants forget to remove the security tag. Missus just arrived home and found one on a garment, says she vaguely remembers an alarm sounding but thought it was someone else. Fortunately I can remove one in seconds but more difficult for a person who would have to return to the shop. Also proves they are pretty worthless.
People who have a strong opinion about something they know nothing about and who use incorrect 'evidence' to back it up. The anti racing bandwagon jumpers are a topical example and they were out in force yesterday.
Surley the only "evidence" you need to be anti racing is that horses have died after falling in races. That's a fact. So if they didn't race, they wouldn't have died.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
It doesn't bother me like, but my missus is a vet and she's not a fan.
And if it wasn't for racing and other equine sports the horses would never have been born in the 1st place. The throroughbred and selle francais breeds would have ceased to exist a century or so ago were it not for sport.Quote:
Originally Posted by easty
I don't view racing as any crueller an industry than any other in which animals are bred for a purpose. The death rate on racecourses is 0.19%, a historic low. Every death is sad but the sport is safer than it's ever been, welfare is streets ahead of what it was even 10 or 20 years ago and racehorses live a life of luxury, huge stride have been taken in ensuring horses enjoy a responsible retirement from racing. There are horses across the country who are far more in need of help than racehorses.
We will all die of something and I bet most racehorses have a better life than an awful lot of people.Quote:
Originally Posted by easty
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Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
Like I said...I'm not bothered about horse racing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Killiehibbie
But, it's a weak argument to say the animal would never have existed if it wasnt for the sport. So what? If I breed a bull for bull fighting, it doesn't make it any less savage when the bulls getting speared by a matador. If I breed a chicken for eggs, then keep it in a cage where it can't move, it's not ok just because I wouldn't have bred it otherwise.
Is it safer than ever? If you say so, I've no reason to believe it's not.
Are the horses treated really well? Well...it's an animal and it should be, it's nothing to brag about, I treat my dog pretty well, I don't see it as a chore.
A quick google search tells me that 149 horses died from races in the UK between 1st April 2016 and 1st April 2017. Seems like quite a lot really.
What bothers me about some of the people who say it's cruel is that they're quite happy to discuss the issue over a nice steak.Quote:
Originally Posted by easty
But what if that steak came from a cow that had a better life than some people? :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by lord bunberry
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Originally Posted by easty
The hotels.com advert. 'Super swan.ky proper like'. Just **** off.
EDIT: Also, the swear filter censoring perfectly innocent words because some of the word is a swear word.
I'm wary of taking the thread way off topic but....Quote:
Originally Posted by easty
The bull fighting example isn't a great one. Bull fighting is a bona fide bloodsport in which the object is to kill the animal, that doesn't apply to racing. If we work with the chicken example, you breed a chicken for the purpose of laying eggs and choose to keep it in a cage that's wilfully cruel. You can however choose to allow it to be free range, have decent feed and a good life. By the same token if you have a horse you can choose to send it to a top class racing yard where it will be excercised daily, have top quality feed, world class veterinary treatment, companionship, shelter and fresh bedding and a dedicated lad or lass who will groom them daily. Or you could stick it in a less reputable livery yard where it may spend excessive time in the field, under stimulated and with inadequate shelter.
Racehorses are most definitely treated well. It's not something to brag about but it's a fact in the face off the nonsense propoganda Animal Aid and their ilk publish to the contrary. It's worth noting it costs between £16 and £22K to keep a racehorse in training for a year, the vast majority will never make that back in winnings so only the select few are doing it for monetary gain.
Horse racing being safer than ever is a fact, even Animal Aid grudgingly admit so. The death rate in 1970 was between 0.8 and 1% of runners (records weren't as thorough then). It's now accurately recorded at 0.19%, a drop off 0.01% on last year and continuing a 20+ year downward trend.
I absolutely respect the opinion of those who dislike horse racing but it's not going anywhere. People can adopt the Animal Aid approach of a ban on all equine sports at all costs which would lead to slaughter on an unprecedented scale and the almost certain extinction of 2 breeds. The alternative is to support the likes of World Horse Welfare who accept animal sports on the basis the welfare of the animals is paramount. As an example they along with the RSPCA have worked with Aintree to bring about changes to the National Course, see the installation of a dedicated cool down area, shorten the course to allow the horses to start about a quarter mile further from the stands and amend the parade so it's no longer in numerical order allowing the horses to leave the packed stands area quicker. That work has now seen 5 successive Grand Nationals with no fatalities. They have a presence at every major race meeting and are well worth 10 minutes of your time to talk to and I happily donate a few pounds every time I see them. Their positive and proactive approach has seen far greater benefits than a bunch of nutters covered in fake blood screaming 'murderers' at people.
I've never heard of Animal Aid, and have nae interest in following thier cause. I'm merely playing devils advocate here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
Fact is, you can show me a million stats and percentages, it won't take away the fact that horses die in horse races, and because of that I can see where people who are against horse racing (be them activists or not) are coming from.
People die running marathons or suffer life altering injuries playing rugby or skiing or driving fast cars.Quote:
Originally Posted by easty
I don't like to see it but I also accept you can't completely eliminate risk from any activity and can only strive to make it as safe as possible. Of course you can argue people choose to do these things but that brings us back to breeding and the thoroughbreds instinct for running and jumping. I hesistate to go down the route of anthropomorphism and claim horses have the same understanding of both risk and choice that humans do.
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Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
I've quoted this post PB, but really it's all of your posts on this topic.
i have no interest in horse racing as such, just see the occasional Facebook rant round the time of the big races. Just wanted to say thanks for providing such thoughtful posts (as always!) on a subject that you are clearly knowledgable and interested in, but haven't got on the soapbox about, you've just presented facts in a constructive and manner befitting a discussion rather than an argument.
cheers :aok:
Though the guy that had the signQuote:
Originally Posted by Hiber-nation
What doe we want
Time travel
When do we want it
It's irrevvelent.
American golf fans. "Get in the hole!!!" **** off you morons
Rail enthusiasts that won't leave you alone when working. (I have no issue with them in general), just when I'm working and they feel the need to follow me about, ask questions, watch what I'm doing and just generally be a pest.
Whilst that is annoying at least it's golf related. WTF is this shouting "ham & cheese"? ✊🏼💦Quote:
Originally Posted by weecounty hibby