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Is there any particular reason why you are putting the boot in? Harris was an excellent prospect who was unlucky with injury? He played for Hibs at a young age and almost single handedly won a Scottish Cup semi final at Hampden for us. In my mind that constitutes making it. I cant comment on his mental strength bit my guess would be closer to the truth than yours.Quote:
Originally Posted by DetroitHibs
Sorry it doesn’t fit your happy clapping narrative. I just posted the facts, much easier to blame it on Butcher and Malpas though :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by SquashedFrogg
I’m not putting the boot in, nor do I really care about many ex players when they leave. I’m simply saying that blaming a players career failing on a manager is a poor excuse. It’s a forum your entitled to your opinions. I don’t think he made it as a professional player, you do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brooster
Have you got any evidence to suggest Alex Harris was swayed by nights out on the booze?Quote:
Originally Posted by DetroitHibs
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Originally Posted by HFC93
I have no knowledge of that but his nickname was " Boozy"
No and that’s not what I’m accusing him off, not even in the slightest.Quote:
Originally Posted by HFC93
Why bring that or mental weakness up then in the context of Alex Harris?Quote:
Originally Posted by DetroitHibs
https://www.snsgroup.co.uk/20-06-19-hibs-training
Pictures from Hibs training today. Search the website and there are a few more.
Flo and Whittaker both there..no Marciano - has he been given extended leave or do we think he’s off / been given more time to sort his future ?
Good to see Ryan back after his meniscus injury.
That was because of his hair not nights out :faf:Quote:
Originally Posted by J-C
Alex had a real set back with his father passing in his teens and I would argue 'made it' at Hibs in a very dramatic (albeit short) debut season. He then had a terrible (potentially career ending) injury and was rushed back from it too soon v Aberdeen at Pittodrie if I remember rightly by a failing and desperate Butcher - something he should be held accountable for (Butcher). Definitely a 'what could have been' with Alex but having watched him as a young boy and posting about him since he was in is early teens there is no doubt in my mind he was a very, very talented footballer and a graceful attacking player. Like every footballer he had weaknesses but for me Butcher absolutely ruined any chance he had of fulfilling potential.
He's worked hard to be where he is and I'm sure even in his mind he thinks what could have been with a bit of luck and better guidance (in football). I wish him all the very best in life and football :aok:
He obviously didn’t have a great time of it under TB however that was a 29 game spell. If that has ruined his career than I’d agree with you, it’s more his fault than Butchers. Seems like a nice laddie but it’s a cop out to absolve him of any blame regarding how his career has panned out.Quote:
Originally Posted by DetroitHibs
I think that was a reference to Guillaume Beuzelin and his hairstyle and nothing at all to do with the bevvy.Quote:
Originally Posted by J-C
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Originally Posted by truehibernian
Good post!
Well he obviously has made it as a professional footballer as he’s played for Hibs amp gary other teams.Quote:
Originally Posted by DetroitHibs
You could say many Scottish players aren’t mentally strong enough to play higher level hence why they are in Scotland only rather than La Liga.
Many players have short careers due to injuries / bad luck / poor management - so many variables.
Your original post about Alex just seemed over the top considering you have no idea what the guy is like and what he’s been through.
Great player,unfortunate that he ended up at ibrox,shrewd by gerrard getting him in ,guy has undoubted potential in my mind.definately the type we need imo.👍Quote:
Originally Posted by Unseen work
Couple of extra days off along with Slivka and Newell.Quote:
Originally Posted by City of Green
Having known Alex as a friend of a friend, this is far more accurate than anything else being postedQuote:
Originally Posted by truehibernian
A lot of people on here wanted Kamara for Hibs last summer. Too late now.Quote:
Originally Posted by tonyrougier123
Think we should’ve tried our best to get him inQuote:
Originally Posted by Eyrie
I think we did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart93
I would be surprised if we didn't enquire, would have been a great signing. I was desperate for him and allan to be brought in at the time as replacements for mcginn and allan!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart93
I am nit any way in the know but i imagine he was looking for a 'bigger' move than us and knew with his contract situation he would get good offers in january.
There's only so much we should really boot Hibs for this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eyrie
As soon as he was at Dundee and playing well they slapped a big price tag on him, the kind of price we just don't pay.
With hindsight, and seeing how well he's done at Rangers, we'll argue we should have pushed the boat out for him. If we'd paid the £1m Dundee were looking for and he'd been a dud, we'd really be giving it in the neck to Hibs.
I think Alex just wasn’t good enough for us.
He burst into the scene when we were terrible and he provided a much needed spark, great link up play with Mcgivern? Down the left at times
Maybe he never got on great with Butcher but I wouldn’t say he ruined him.
He was given a chance by Stubbs, Lennon, Dundee, Queen of the South and Falkirk without kicking on.
i really thought he would grow into a great player but maybe he was just what we needed for that 5 months.
confidence comes and goes in football but that was a very long time ago and he’s yet to show that form again. We can’t blame that on Butcher bringing him back too early.
James Mcdonaugh their managed worked with them all during his time as our head of academy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Unseen work
Just a shame none of them really trained on from their youth days. Handling had the talent.Quote:
Originally Posted by MagicSwirlingShip
Apparently Turnbull to Celtic is back on
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Agents played a blinder here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Callum_62
And all the Celtic fan will love him againQuote:
Originally Posted by Callum_62
Le Heck ruling out any move to Hull here, :thumbsup:
https://www.skysports.com/football/n...lign-with-hibs
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Originally Posted by truehibernian
I know that, I forgot to put a smiley after, just noticed that now.
I did mention in my original post on this subject about his injury, being brought back too soon and the bullying by the then management, just shows that if you miss a simple smiley in a post, the context gets lost as it was meant to be posted in jest.
I thought he was going to turn out to be our next big thing, the way he burst onto the scene was so good, but he was injured and that was that.
I think to blame Butcher is not right, he hardly played for him, and he never followed him around the country to the various clubs he's been to since.
Harris in my opinion is just one of those who showed a bit of promise, but failed to follow it up long term.
I wish him well, football is a cut throat business, and while he did well for a short period of time, i think we did well getting Boyle in exchange.