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I think there's more to it than a name. I don't think it's a coincidence that distinctively Scottish Unionists pushing Scotland's agenda but from within the Union did better than a subsidiary branch of the UK Tories has done since. You see the same dynamic in Quebec where the Coalition Avenir Quebec are dedicated to Quebec's interests but within the Canadian Federation.
I think there is a gap in the Scottish politics market for Unionists not controlled from London and they would probably supplant the current Con/Lab/Libs were such a grouping to emerge.
I don't know enough about CSU/CDU to comment if it's a similar thing.
Anyway, I realise I have just put Indy on yet another non-Indy thread.
Anyone got a peeve about that? :greengrin
I'm not sure if I have mentioned this before but articles that are about people who I think we are supposed to aspire to but are just smug bull**** completely lacking in anything resembling self awareness.
I read one recently featuring a woman talking about the 'secret' to paying of a mortgage before the age of 40. She blabbed on for a bit about working hard and trying to save a bit and basically all the stuff that loads of people try to do. Then she casually mentioned the substantial monetary gift from her parents to put down as a deposit on 3 buy to let flats. Oh then she married a man who already had a mortgage on a £400K house with over 50% of it paid off. She then sold 2 off her properties at a huge profit to pay off most of the rest. The 'secret' there is having wealthy parents. I'm sure she does work hard and I'm sure using coupons to save a few pounds a month at the shops helps but loads of people do that and don't have the same advantages.
There's loads of it about. People boasting about their amazing lifestyles thanks to their 'side hustle' on Etsy before casually dropping in the 6 figure trust fund as a throwaway line.
I'm not going to decry someone for being in a fortunate financial position and having a few advantages or privileges in life but at least have a bit awareness of them.
Aha I’m sure I read the same article and thought exactly the same!
Basically if you have capital you can make more....the big revelation of money makes money if yer half sensible!
As you say there is tons of that type of thing about and it’s well deserving of a peeve!
The term 'Cultural Appropriation' and how widely it's used for things that are just so trivial (and ridiculous).
White guy dares to get deadlocks and is decried for 'Cultural Appropriation', because it's a 'black thing' (that was actually the phrase used).
White Chef dares to make some Caribbean food on a TV show and it's 'Cultural Appropriation'.
Millions of people the world over sent their kids to school in tartan kilts.
Q: Is that 'Cultural Appropriation'?
A: Who gives a ****!
That actually reminds me of a series of articles by a newspaper - one seems to have a vendetta against the food writer and activist Jack Monroe who learned how to feed herself and her child through tinned and frozen food for literally pennies a meal. She's since published cookbooks of these recipes to help those in that position to be able to recreate it. Brilliant, but as she's left wing and LGBTQ+ she constantly gets a pasting from this paper.
The same paper ran a story about a middle class mother who has a YouTube channel posting videos of her making recipes from the "use by today" yellow sticker items from supermarkets - in other words not something that can be replicated unless you get the exact same things from the yellow sticker section on a different day. She was described as "clever" and was praised heavily.
Funny how the one who publishes something actually useful is the one who gets panned.
The very common trend of people saying something provocative, getting a reaction then wanting to play the victim. See most Tories, failed actors and the like.
I’ve seen that so often I’m beginning to think what would happen the other way around.
Saw two Chinese dudes at my golf course recently learning to play...since golf is a game from Scotland I wonder if that could be classed as them culturally appropriating my sport?
On TV recently I saw a Japanese lass wearing doc martins...a rather British style of footwear so were they appropriating British culture?
Would seem odd to lambast either of them for doing perfectly normal things but going by some of the cultural appropriation stuff I’ve seen you never quite know.
Also I occasionally ponder what on Earth is wrong with a bit of cultural appropriation....seems to me it’s something that should be welcomed when a culture’s habits or whatever are shared and taken on by others. Surely it’s a sign of acceptance and integration...the very thing that I thought people from different cultures would value and celebrate.
Ach it’s a funny old world sometimes I suppose and without that this thread would have a lot less peeves on it!! [emoji2957]
As a "privileged" white (getting close to middle age :rolleyes: ) male, apparently I'm not afforded comment on such matters (so I was told on Twitter), and normally I don't get involved. But, last summer I got more than a little frustrated when Adele got lambasted for tying her hair up in "Bantu" knots, in celebration of Notting Hill Carnival. She got ripped apart by loads of people on all media forums.
FFS, her hair was in buns, I was doing it to my daughters hair as soon as it was long enough. This really shouldn't be looked upon as cultural appropriation/misappropriation.
If anything, people have been copying peoples since time began, look at fashion, tattoos & piercings. Many of them can probably be traced to a vague region on this small planet but they have been embraced & emulated the world over. If anything, the offended peoples should be flattered at the others worldly outlook.
Actually, I'd forgot about that one.
I have to be honest that I genuinely think there are some people out there (probably a very small number) determined to be outraged and a vast array of media outlets that enjoy posting their views to be controversial and also to cash in on whatever cause is currently in the limelight.
Here's a few more counter examples:
Anybody wearing Paisley pattern that isn't from Paisley.
Have you ever worn Slippers? Did you know they originate from South-East Asia (China and Vietnam)?
Jeans, if worn by anybody that wasn't in the French navy in the 18th/19th century, should be a crime.
Side hustle. Or to be more exact, the attitude of some of the people who have them
firstly, and I’ll apologise now if this reads as sexist as it’s not meant that way at all, some of the females who do these things, and the stream of ‘mums making this work’, ‘at it like only mums can’, ‘mothers meeting their breaking point and making it happen anyway’. It comes across as if dads don’t provide or bother, or men in general. It’s not all women doing a side hustle who make these kind of comments, I just find them patronising, which is the opposite of the point of them.
secondly, this applies to men and women, when they pressure you to join their thing, but try to frame it that they’re doing you a favour, and ignore the polite refusal they’ve had and keep pushing you. Lots of replies like ‘yeah but you must have some spare time’, ‘Yeah but you could find a new way of living’, ‘yeah but I know someone who’s name I was told and not actually met or even seen in real life who has bought a fleet of cars and their own private island by doing this side hustle for 2 hours a week and raising 4 kids’.
side hustles that seem to begin as ‘sell these products and make a commission’ and swiftly lead to recruiting others and becoming a “life coach” to your team, where you make money from their sales.
people who brag about how early they get up and late they work on their side hustle, preaching their work ethic and the lifestyle it brings them, whilst simultaneously being lazy *******s at their job and often late etc, even though it’s their job that provides 90% of their income and where their negative behaviour affects others much more than the side hustle.
finally, the smug expression they give when they’re asked any questions that challenge or question their extreme belief in who amazing their side hustle is. When you ask about why other people make money off of their work, or why, since it’s such an amazing product, it can’t be found on tv or newspaper advertising or available in big shops or online retailers, or or why they are given strict scripts to follow rather than information to share, and so on. They give you this semi-pitied look as if you’re incapable of seeing how they’ve got the answer
and breath :greengrin
I don't know if it's LinkedIn, Instagram, or social media in general that has caused it but this idea that getting 4 hours sleep a night in order to "hustle" is horrific, not to forget the people that celebrate it with the required "smashing it bro" styled replies.
I have someone in my work who does that pyramid make up scheme.
Cant remember the name of the company but i googled it and it is a total scam.
Mentioned my thoughts to her and she now basically doesnt really speak to me now "as she doesnt need negativity in her life".
That's straight out of a cults handbook.
Theres a woman I work with (fortunately she is full time WFH, I'm in the office) who has 2 or 3 of these ventures on the go, and is actively promoting her pish while on the clock of her main job. Candles, creams and cock-ups are the three things shes most known for round the place.
She’s selling WHAT?
Reminds me of a story my ex told me about. She’s a primary school teacher and one of the kids in the P1 class went into their bag, pulled out a big envelope and presented it to the very young teacher saying it was for her from her mummy. Said teacher opens the envelope to find a catalogue for adult toys and clothing. Turns out the mum was a sort of Avon-style rep and was trying to sell stuff to the other parents at the school drop-off. The bell rang, she put the envelope into the kid’s bag who assumed it was for the teacher given that’s who any other envelopes that her mum puts in the bag are for.
I know à woman who does the Juice Plus thing (called Club W here). She was doing well enough from it money wise that she packed in her job as a teacher.
However;
Despite loads of Facebook etc. posts about being so lucky to work from home and choose her hours, she works far more than she did teaching, without the long holidays and at all hours every day including weekends.
She went on one of their diet/cleansing programme things which is meant to last something like 6 or 12 weeks. That's almost 3 years she's been on it and has had some unusual health issues.
She's in the crap financially as she didn't set any of her earnings aside to pay her tax and other charges. Her husband doesn't earn a lot and they risk losing their house.
Despite all this she's still constantly advertising to hook new people into the set up.
What price can you really put on the social media dopamine hits though?
On the subject of "hustles" , is the "change your lifestyle with Forex trading" type pyramid schemes a thing in Scotland?
I went down the rabbit hole on Facebook and someone my parents know in Spain (an "expat" who has had about 20 different odd jobs there..) is constantly posting about "life changing" gains and "five figure" days with a "members only strategy".
I know that you shouldn't judge a book by it's cover but his "Forex brotherhood" all appear to be the type I wouldn't trust to get the messages in never mind turning in 10k a day with Forex.
People who know nothing about a subject and when being told about it go "mm-hmm", "of course" and "yeah" rather than listen and learn.
TV chefs when cooking. "Put in the oven at 170 for 30 mins. 20 if a fan oven". Some of the population still use gas, so giving us the gas equivalent would be useful. "Or Gas mark 7 etc etc".It really gets on my nerves.
I laughed at this post. I sort of used to be that woman about 20 years ago. I can't remember the name of the company, they were massive and sold CD's. You subscribed and they sent you so many per month. The downside was, they just kept coming and if you didn't return them by a set time you had to pay (I think that's how it worked, it's hard to remember what the appeal to it was now). There was always refer a friend offers, so I actively used to go round the office/family recruiting new members to supplement my own CD collection free of charge.
I met a bloke I worked with who I hooked in about 5 years later and he swore he thought his credit rating had been trashed due to not returning or paying for what he described as a mountain of CD's he didn't even want. I thought I was being an entrepreneur, don't think he viewed it that way, we had a laugh about it so all was good. :greengrin
It's election time so the 'take a pen so they can't rub out the pencil' brigade are out in force again. Attention seeking pish.
Ironically taking your own pen or pencil is being encouraged this year but not for the reasons the conspiracy theorists put forward.
TV series being called “seasons”.
Ahh I vaguely remember that!
Sure you got 3 for the price of 1 or something first time around and they would then send you their top choice or two every month...which you then had to send back if you didn’t want it or they would charge you.
Like you it’s all lost in the mists of time but sure I got roped into that at one point!
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I signed up for it when I bought my first cd player (1990 I think?) It was a cheap way to actually have something to play on it.
Yeah in hindsight it certainly was. I eventually ended up flogging my substantial collection to Music Magpie. Bizarrely, I was getting offered 80p or thereabouts for Prince, Oasis, George Michael etc CD's and a whopping £6 for The Nolan's Greatest Hits! Cue the slagging off re: my eclectic music collection. Also had Mike and the Mechanics :greengrin
I remember the Britannia music catalogues.
I suppose it was just an analogue version of something like Audible.
Dealing with mobile phone contracts. Been on Vodafone for a while, and seen a stonking deal on an iPhone 12 Pro, also through Vodafone but through a third party. Directly through them it was £15 a month more for a standard iPhone 12 with half of the storage space.
"That's a great price, who is it with?"
"Yourselves, through *third party name* (forget what one it was)"
"Oh, that's only available through them. We can do you the standard iPhone 12 for (what was still more per month than the 12 Pro)"
"In that case I'll cancel my contract".
"You won't be able to use your PAC code with this as it's also Vodafone"
"Perfect, I've found a similar deal with another network, I'll leave Vodafone altogether".
They then tried to win me back round by telling me how much it would cost to end the agreement, but it ended up with a £4 rebate to myself :greengrin
Quite amazing that what could be an easy upgrade (which I'd be willing to pay an extra couple of quid for to save the hassle of switching) ended up in driving me away from Vodafone completely.
Sounds like you got it sorted but the PAC thing is easy to overcome.
Take out the new contract with the same provider.
Order a PAYG sim from Giffgaff or whoever and port your number to that.
Once done get a new PAC from Giffgaff and port back to the original provider.
It’s ridiculous you have to do that but on the flip side it’s dead easy and can be done in a couple of days or so.
Not a pet peeve as such but seeing as we're on the subject of moaning about companies and sales strategies...
McQueens Dairies. Their rep came to the door during lockdown which was enough to get my back up to start with. Wanted me to sign up to deliveries of milk to my door, but I wasn't interested. He continued with what I'd described as the "hard sell" approach including offering a free trial. I told him I wasn't interested, at which point he tried to give me a leaflet which I explained I didn't want, particularly due to Covid concerns, to which he said "it's only a leaflet".
Fast forward three months and another rep comes to the door - he spoke to my wife so not sure if it was the same guy. She was busy dealing with our 11 month old so didn't want to talk. He deployed the same hard sell and offered the free trial, which she accepted in order to get rid of him.
The service was fine but was less convenient for us than buying from the local shop and cost more. When the company called after the first delivery, they advised they were calling to take our bank details. When my wife said we didn't want to go ahead, they said they'd phone again after the next delivery.
When they phoned again, they again asked for our bank details. My wife said we didn't want to go ahead, which led to more hard sell which didn't work this time. They then advised they'd need our card details for payment for the milk we'd received so far. My wife advised them the rep said it was a free trial, to which they said they don't offer free trials!
I phoned to complain and, after a long delay, finally got through to someone who again started the hard sell. They made various claims about the benefits of their service and I asked for more information on certain points. They had absolutely nothing to offer to back up their claims.
Having looked into reviews of the company, quite a few folk have been stung by the "free" trial offer.
That’s a shocker. We used them last year as well and although convenient it was very expensive so we cancelled. Of course when we cancelled we were offered a loyalty rate (which was still more expensive than Tesco) which annoyed me - why not offer your best price all the time instead of when I’m going to leave.
Had similar issues with 02. Wanted to stay with them but negotiate a data only deal. They kept insisting there was no negotiation. Switch to Giff Gaff which runs on O2 infrastructure and immediately had a better contract for half the cash. They then doubled the data about a month later.
Its probably not the PAC code. The phone will be locked to the Vodafone network but they have to send you the unlock code if you move. My issue was Carphone warehouse sold me it so O2 never owned the phone. The switch sim however worked and then it was easy to retain my number.
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The ridiculous pomp around the Queens speech to Parliament today.
The Crown driven there in a Daimler, a big stick, knocking on the door, yada yada yada
Going to the dentist :ill:
Listening to LBC, they have 2 adverts for new podcasts - one is hosted by Ruth Davidson and the other advert features Priti Patel - hearing these voices without warning and totally unsolicited is probably worse than a pet peeve tbh.
The woman that follows up the station jingle on Radio X (and presumably other Global radio stations) with “from Global”. Totally irrational but her voice makes me want to smash up the radio.
A year or so ago they had a trailer for the Nick Ferrari show (which is bad enough) but the advert had someone calling in who obviously worked in a school and was explaining that the climate emergency on the go has led to some of her pupils expressing that they don't want to have a child in the future. Nick Ferrari's response was along the lines of "Well I hope you've taught them what a folly that is" and that was it, end of jingle.
What business is it of that utter buffoon as to whether others want to raise a child or not?
Putting the contents of a baguette on carefully so it doesn't spill out, closing it then when noticing that you've done it upside down, stressing over whether to dismantle it and do it again properly, eat it with the base on top or just eat it as it is and hope it tastes the same.
I’m liking this one!
I just turn it over and munch on.
But the real question is does the order of layers make the snack taste different or not.
So once turning it over your cheese, cucumber, lettuce and Mayo sandwich is now (from the ‘base’) layered as Mayo, lettuce, cucumber and cheese....
Just on this, for anyone in a similar situation on o2, they are one of the few (maybe only) networks where you don’t need to do the PAYG sim trick if you want to stay but take out contract with a third party provider. You can just phone them up and they will do the switch to your new SIM for you. I’ve done this the last twice when I’ve been due an upgrade.
Folk on the main board that don't understand the transfer rules.
"Can Scotty Allan play on Saturday?"
I'm learning to be chilled and understanding of all people. So when I see people taking the piss out of those who maybe dont understand things as well as they do I no longer wade in like a raging bull. Not sure if its a personal "peeve" that I don't take them to task, or "a little thing that gives me pleasure"
The overused line of "Totally different players" when someone doesn't want to commit or admit that one player is better than the other. Coronation St and the Sopranos are totally different TV shows, but I know which is f****ng better.
"I'm glad you're not picking the team" - as if there is a live danger that someone from hibs.net might randomly be installed to select the team for the match taking place in 3 days' time.
People who don't know what a millenial is. It seems to have become a generic term thrown about as an insult by people who hate anyone younger than them.
The first millenial grandparents now exist. We really aren't that young anymore.
It's always been a peeve of mine that older generations look down upon the younger ones. Most of the things in this world that hold us back are circumstances and beliefs we have been forced to inherit from previous generations. As parents we need to prepare our kids for the environment that they will have to live in, not the one we were born into.
Folk that put in a meeting request with a Teams meeting link in it, then don’t use the link themselves. There’s a new guy at work who does this, I click the link and wait in the meeting room only for him to call me separately via a direct Teams call.
On the same theme, the Teams TV ad… I’m on Teams most of the day, I’d rather not hear the dreaded Teams alert noise whilst I’m watching TV, thank you very much.
Hibs fans and their unreasonable sense of entitlement regards the cup final ticket allocation.
I'd quote the whole thread. Theres a pervading sense of anger before any facts are known. Then a pile on. There's a number of false equivalences, then a pile on There's assumptions and misinformation, then a pile on. Explanations given then ignored and.... another pile on.
Unworkable suggestions given the time frame.
It's a cracking end of season anger fest which is like a match day thread but so much worse.
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Do we get away with it if we also never use the term?
I didn't really become aware of all these generational names until there was too many of them to want to understand...
I'd want to say someone born just after the millennium but presumably they're not the grandparents you speak of...
Its not a term I used but heard of quite a bit. I'd always presumed it was people born around the millennium so late teens,/early twenties. A woman on dragons den called herself a millennial and I realised I was wrong. Apparently it's people who became adults around the millennium so late 30s now.
Possibly. I think the terms are used to describe generations with defining characteristics and shared societal and economic experiences though. That doesn't really work if you break everything into 10 year blocks.
I don't really care. My gripe is more with people who use a term as an insult that they don't understand themselves.
I read someone the other day mouthing off about millenials being spoilt brats because they had been brought up with iPhones since the day they were born. That's just blatant nonsense spouted by someone who either doesn't know what a millenial is or doesn't know when the 1st iPhone was released.
I don't think it is something that people use in everyday conversation. Millenial and boomer are the 2 that are probably used the most often, generally both as insults.
These kinds of terms have been around for years though. I can remember reading about the lost generation, silent generation, generation x etc at least 20 years ago. In Eastern Europe those brought up immediately after the fall of the Soviet Union were termed the independence generation, there were Husaks Children in the former Czechoslovakia, the post 80s in China, the Columbuses in Poland and so on.
Yep it’s only something I’ve ever had to be involved with at work (baby boomers, millennials, generation X) and don’t think I’ve ever seen any of the terms used outside the workplace, apart from on quiz shows/possibly the news. It’s alarming if the sort of people that don’t understand their insults have now started with this...
I had to look it up. If I go with this thread then 1980 makes me a millennial. Not something I'd have called myself. Other sources make me generation X - the 'latchkey" generation - which seems more like me. Others again say that 1980 is on the cusp of both so technically I'm a Xennial....
It is nonsense.
I'd take that a bit further and say that a pet peeve of mine is the labelling of groups of people, and then using that label to describe them as if they were a group with almost identical views, circumstances, morals, etc.
These labels are, as you say, then used as a means to dismiss people's viewpoints or to attack them based on people's own prejudices.
Oh I agree. I think that was actually my initial peeve this morning albeit framed differently.
Now I've somehow become the defender of the label. I think these things probably have a place in sociological circles and the like but stuff like 'OK boomer' and the aforementioned claptrap about millenials is just tedious.
Those white rimmed shoes that are everywhere.
Football pundits wearing them with jeans is fair enough. Brendan Rodgers wearing them at the FA Cup Final is a fail by any sartorial standards.
Apparently it’s now a thing that brunch is served all day in bars and restaurants.
I went out for a pint and a scran this afternoon, looked at the menu before going and was looking forward to it. Got there at about 2pm to be told only the brunch menu was available. Lots of stuff I didn’t like as well as french toast, croissants, pancakes or a fry up.
Ended up getting a fry up which was really nice but that’s no the point. My wife tells me that’s just what the modern bars are doing now and is apparently trendy to do go out for brunch in the middle of the afternoon?
****ing stupid in my opinion. Should be a breakfast menu before 12, main menu after 12.
Went out for my first meal since Christmas Eve today to the Brig in Tranent.
Table for three at 1pm, all day breakfast available if you wanted it but more importantly for us a cracking menu. Three course meal each with soft drinks £70, it was braw.
Can't be bothered with all this new fancy stuff, I like the traditional menu.