Is it wrong that I am warming to Rory Stewart - a down to earth Posh boy if that's even possible 😁
Is it wrong that I am warming to Rory Stewart - a down to earth Posh boy if that's even possible 😁
Fair play to him, he's done well in the leadership contest. I don't think many tories would've known who he was a few weeks ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Benny Brazil
Meanwhile, a few of Ruth Davidson's MPs backing BJ :rolleyes:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...itics-48675043
Nope. But plenty of people at MI5 did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Grieves
Also, not surprised that Boris is being backed by the tory part-time linesman and the scrotum fondler.
He's head and shoulders above all of the rest of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Benny Brazil
At a very tough time for the country, it would do no harm to have a leader that even non-Tories could get behind and relate to.
That's why he won't get it. We'll get the most offensive, obnoxious option - Boris - who will alienate millions but serve those he is there to serve.
He is by far the most likeable but he still won’t win. Johnson as PM going for a hard brexit makes independence more probable though so every cloud and all that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
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When did Ruth Davidson become leader of the Conservatives? She only leads a bunch of MSPs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Grieves
If Boris goes to the country promising a hard Brexit then the Tories who backed the Brexit Party will return to the fold.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Where do the Tory remainers go under this situation though?Quote:
Originally Posted by marinello59
That is still a significant number of people.
He’s still a Tory. I could never warm to any of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Benny Brazil
I don’t think it will matter, they won’t stop a Tory majority wherever they go.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
He looks a bit manic to me. They all do in fact apart from Boris who's comatose.Quote:
Originally Posted by Benny Brazil
They all remind me of candidates I see regularly, who are just trying to blag their way through the interview process. Except Boris, he's the guy sent by the job centre who's trying to blag his way out of the job.Quote:
Originally Posted by heretoday
Not even surprising to see those results. Disturbing but not surprising. For many in the Conservative Party diehard opposition to the EU goes back decades.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fife-Hibee
Never ever voted Tory in my life but this impressive guy deserves a chance to show if he's something different or just another talker.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
I'd support him rather than a Corbyn fronted momentum led cabal, shame we're unlikely to get a chance.
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Rory Stewart did a programme for the BBC just before the Indyref.
It’s main point was that we should vote No, because he’s an ex-military landowner, and the border country is his anyway.
I’m just glad that I’m not a Tory. And also that I’m sitting in the French sunshine with a cold beer 😄
Allow me to save many years of time. He's just another talker. People like him are trained in the art of manipulation. They know exactly what to tell you to get you on side. But behind that wide smile is a cold calculated sociopath. Life is a game of chess to these people and every statement he makes is just another carefully planned out move.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
By people like him i take it you mean politicians ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fife-Hibee
Politics is a profession. Not all politicians are sociopaths, but it helps.Quote:
Originally Posted by makaveli1875
In a field full of chancers there's not a lot of options.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fife-Hibee
My own party, labour, are leaderless and unelectable, in truth a bit like the Tories but for the purposes of this debate we've a poor choice, which Tory. None of the rest even sound any different.
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Go get 'im Rory!
His dad's Scottish and he was partly raised in Scotland. He was commissioned in the Black Watch for a (very) short time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saturday Boy
His family's house is in Crieff.
Isn't one episode of pointless enough torture for one day?
His real name is Rod Stewart, I don’t know why he felt the need to go with Rory :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Colr
Dominic Raab out. Good, he's the only guy in there who would manage to be an even worse choice than Johnson.
Also - not getting all the hype over Rory "David Cameron but a bit awkward" Stewart. He only stands out because he's a Normal Tory instead of an Extreme Tory. Him in power would ensure another election win for them and more wasted years of trying to get an impossible unicorn deal.
Think he's one of the few who talks sense - someone who could gather people from the centre on both sides of the spectrumQuote:
Originally Posted by Diclonius
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Was his dad a Hibby as well?Quote:
Originally Posted by lord bunberry
Rory doesn't trust that seat. Maybe he's afraid of heights, or worried that Boris will push him off it.
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Originally Posted by Hibby70
I bet atleast 79. 6% of what they are promising won't come to fruition
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Yes but that attitude won't cause them one seconds grief if Scotland leave the union.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fife-Hibee
Jesus christ is Boris really heading to be our PM? [emoji51]
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Rory is on the seat.
If BJ wins, he will call a general election. As soon as he calls that general election Labour should immediately axe Corbyn and install someone like Yvette Cooper and go all out for remain, they would then be in Government and Cooper the next PM.
Absoultely triggered by a 15 year old Scottish lass.
That alone made it worth watching. :faf:
Or they wouldn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by James310
I'm not so sure. They're likely to take a skelping from the Brexit Party ala EU elections. They know if they don't deliver Brexit then they're a dodo party. That said, who ****ing knows what will happen in these mad times.Quote:
Originally Posted by James310
If you had no idea of what was going on and tonight was the 1st time you had heard of the contest there is no way you would said Boris was the front runner. He's like a bad joke that has gone too far.
A collection of utterly self centered, self absorbed sociopathic narcissists. Their utter terror when confronted with a question about a general election summed up their priorities.
If you had no idea what was going on and were left with this to base anything on. You'd be left hanging by your scarf.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
Boris marches on, unfortunately.
The show was just too short for anyone to have a real crack at him although Maitlis raised the Heathrow question which is a potential source of embarrassment. He'll overcome it no doubt.
Jeremy Hunt sounded to me like the only realistic challenger. Rory Stewart didn't look at all well - even worse when he took his tie off. What's that about?.
Surely a Normal Tory is better than a Mental hard right Tory?Quote:
Originally Posted by Diclonius
Best of a bad bunch and all.
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Where are the tory voters on here and what is their take on the 'debate'?
A normal Tory means they stay in power.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bristolhibby
Michael Gove’s thrust on every point was ‘f***k Jeremy Corbyn, everything’s his fault’. I take it he has issues with him. :greengrin
:greengrin That I don’t know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Colr
Gotta feel sorry for Shouty Ruth. Her whole political career has been about Scotland in the union and now she's being told by Westminster Tories that Scotland is expendable. Feel sorry for her? No! Just me?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-48675043
:tumble:Quote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
They will be Brexit Party members now.
That ws my first thought when I read her article on the BBC. She has absolutely shat her pants about that poll and her single biggest campaign policy has been ripped to bits by the her very own party membership. Just another branch office who are led by a bigger group who don't really give a **** for Scotland. Scotland is something they can discard when it becomes too troublesome or given up when they feel like it. Good news I would say, when you add that to the Boris poem it would be good of people in Scotland realised quicker that they think of us and that really do believe we are expendable,Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
Davidson is going to have to split the Scottish Tories off from the main party so she doesn't have to keep towing the party line. It also means she can oppose Brexit which is I believe what she wants to do.
My guess is you'll find him/her on the SNP thread.:wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https...m3zoN-4RYfJUcgQuote:
Originally Posted by weecounty hibby
It seems Mr Kevin Hague(head of top tory think tank, THESE ISLANDS) oft referred to on here(by one), as the font of all wisdom, hasn't covered himself in glory on the results of the latest poll throwing the Scots out of the Union in preference to getting Brexit.
I hope he kept up his contacts in the Pedigree chum brigade.:greengrin
Wow. That's one to drag up everytime "our precious union" is mentioned.Quote:
Originally Posted by Callum_62
The Scottish Tories to declare independence from the English tories?Quote:
Originally Posted by Diclonius
It's the only policy that Ruthie and her pals have. The defenders of the Union. What other policies do they have?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Grieves
We should just give Johnson the job and get on with negotiating some sort of deal with the EU. Time is getting short.
I don't think I can stand to watch these awkward sods debating again. I'm actually getting nostalgic already about the Theresa May era.
You gotta be kidding surely ?Quote:
Originally Posted by heretoday
Don't think there's an EU to negotiate with until a few weeks before 31 October. They seem to be involved in some sort of democratic exercise at the moment, where the whole of Europe got to vote on who their representatives would be for the next five years. Crazy eh.Quote:
Originally Posted by heretoday
History will look more kindly on TM once it's seen what came next.Quote:
Originally Posted by makaveli1875
The UK Government has already wasted 3 years "negotiating" with the EU. At no point has the EU budged on the deal. The genius and expertise of Boris Johnson isn't going to change that.Quote:
Originally Posted by heretoday
Food banks are all very nostalgic.
I'm getting nostalgic about Teresa's ear as well, but that's not the point of the thread so I'll look for a more relevant website[emoji6]Quote:
Originally Posted by makaveli1875
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Either that or she defects to the Lib Dems. She doesn't strike me as a particularly right wing Conservative which is the direction they're going.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Grieves
Stewart seems to think he can get Gove to support him (not the other way around) for some reason. I suppose he might be in with a shout if he finishes above Gove in this afternoon's ballot?
What's the point? Boris clearly has the backing of the membership
All this now is just noise and a waste of time
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Ian Blackford calls Boris a racist. Yet despite giving clear examples before hand and after, the tories continue to crow at him from the benches.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvQNtRCN-PE
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Yougov has Stewart still winning last nights debate.
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It's not surprising. It was a poll sample of the general population, not tories only. So naturally the one that came across least tory like would be favoured.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Hear hear. They should get on with it and finish this charade. It was better when the Tories elected their leader in camera like the Pope.Quote:
Originally Posted by Callum_62
Maybe something can be worked out before Oct 31 to mitigate the coming disaster but they need to get negotiating now.
:hmmm: Anyone missing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fife-Hibee
Rory knocked out, with 27 votes
The international development secretary was eliminated after coming last with 27 votes, 10 fewer than in the second ballot.
Boris Johnson topped the vote again with 143 votes, 17 more than last time.
Jeremy Hunt came second once more, with 54 votes, narrowly ahead of Michael Gove with 51 votes.
Sajid Javid also made it into the next round with 38 votes
I dont really understand the polarisation arguement of putting Stewart through to the final 2
Surely having 2 different characters with different thoughts in the final 2 is good thing?
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Johnson hard to stop now. His hatred of Scots will help a yes vote in a second independence referendum, so every cloud and all that.
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He won’t be stopped, Boris Johnson is going to be the next PM. And we laughed at the Americans when Trump became President.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Can you imagine the dialogue between the two of them. It will be the least statesmen like debate in the history of slavering pish and not having a clue as to what you are on aboutQuote:
Originally Posted by marinello59
It terrifies me what both those idiots will be plotting and planning. Expect the US to back any UK attempt at stopping Scottish independence and support an inner Irish border.Quote:
Originally Posted by weecounty hibby
Not if you are a Tory member.Quote:
Originally Posted by Callum_62
Difference being, they voted for Trump.Quote:
Originally Posted by marinello59
We're going to get Johnson by default.
Tragic.
I certainly hope by end of next year we will be shot of Trump, Johnson and Corbyn.
Farage, please don't leave Farage out if that list!Quote:
Originally Posted by Colr
46.1% of the US electorate voted for TrumpQuote:
Originally Posted by marinello59
0.2% or less of the UK electorate will vote for Boris
They vote for a President. We don’t vote for a PM, we vote for a local MP only.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fife-Hibee
Indeed. But the tories with a minority of MPs in parliament are about to choose a PM for us.Quote:
Originally Posted by marinello59
True, but we vote for a party that has normally selected its prime minister in waiting.Quote:
Originally Posted by marinello59
I’m not saying it’s right, it is what it is. The way that Boris has been manipulating this whole process by lending votes out to ensure he ends up facing the person he wants stinks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
I think we can pretty much all agree that he's a chancer. He'll need international recognition after he's alienated the UK from the EU, not to worry though, I'm sure there's a world leader out there that will oblige. Interesting times ahead, in the Chinese sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by marinello59
Latest vote has sajid javid drop out.
BJ 159
MG 61
JH 59
SJ 34
They could have all saved face by dropping out and handing the keys to the nuclear missile control room to Boris at the very beginning. This whole "leadership contest" is one huge farce.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
Even assuming whoever the a.n.other candidate is acquires all of the remaining votes from Javid and Gove/Hunt, they'd still need people to defect from BoJo.
It is indeed a coronation, and the entire preamble has been totally pointless.
Bozo is overwhelmingly the choice of the party membership, apparently, meaning he is going to get the job he has always believed his birthright. It's appalling, but it's going to happen; an incompetent, over-privileged pathological liar.
No they only need to come second to make the final two which then goes to a members vote.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sylar
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The two spoiled ballot papers this morning could mean that there is a chance he can’t form a govt and will have to go for a GE.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba
Current majority is 4 with the DUP. If those two defect then it’s GE time.
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You forgot bigoted racist!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba
Gove 75
Hunt 77
Johnson 160
happy Gove is out
Sad times when Jeremy See You Next Tuesday is the lesser of two evils.
Johnny or cu9t...
Stellar.
And now Davidson will presumably back Hunt, followed by Johnson when he inevitably wins.
No let's not forgot him.Quote:
Originally Posted by weecounty hibby
One Boris Johnson, one Jeremy Hunt, and two James Hunts.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48714864
This looks bad. I don't think saying he acted instinctively will help.
I have to say that although I sympathise with the activists (and have no love for the tories), I don't see that he done much wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Grieves
Had it been a bloke he stopped would there have been the same outrage?
Probably not although the physicality to stop a women in general is not the same as to stop a manQuote:
Originally Posted by Peevemor
Looks a bit OTT to me
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