I am not going to use she or her, so I would use he or him. What would you use?
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There's a new women's national facility being built there. Most of it is built now, just a couple of buildings to go and demolition of the old one.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc...l-51835727.amp
You mean your opinion on what happened, not exactly what happened. I did ignore it yes as I thought it was time to move on.
Your earlier post was not strictly true, I said he was in a woman's prison and someone replied saying "The prisoner hasn’t been placed yet" but he was placed in a woman's prison, Cornton Vale. He was in that prison. He is now in Saughton after being moved there from Cornton Vale.
But time to move on.
Should add, it's good to see all of us on this thread aligned to the Scottish Government on this and we all agree that Cornton Vale was the wrong place for the offender to be. :agree:
To be clear.. the SPS made the decision, the government haven't made any 'decision '
When asked Sturgeon stated earlier today that she felt it was wrong for this particular offender to be in a woman's prison but confirmed no official statement/instruction had been made to the SPS. She also agreed that fhe SPS did know of her feelings on the matter though.
https://twitter.com/TomSwarbrick1/st...vdpbZ4ygQ&s=19
Says Police Scotland are not recording the crimes as being committed by a man. Not sure how that works as according to the law in Scotland a woman cannot commit a rape. A bit of a mess.
The crime stats will look a bit wonky as well. I guess this is a new category as there won't be any previous women in Scotland that have been convicted of rape? Aren't crime stats used to help planning and budgets, help workout where extra safeguarding needs to be made etc. If the data is wrong it could put people at risk.
A thought for the victims who were surely victims of male violence and now seeing this being recorded as something different.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-64419533
'Sending Bryson to Cornton Vale was unnecessary shambles'.
"Former Governor" I listened to the "CURRENT" Governor and the SPS policy on trans people is that they are admitted to the prison which matches the gender they identify with initially which I think is correct. They're then subject to a plethora of evaluations whilst being held away from the prison population, also correct. A decision is then made after 72hrs on where that person should be incarcerated which in this case is also correct assuming it's Saughton.
I've also listened to numerous MSM sources trying to conflate this with the GRR bill today which is complete bollox, I've also read in this thread some absolute bull**** trying to score political points and the end outcome of all this vitriol is that the transgender community is now more isolated than ever before, well done folks you've fell into Alisdair Jacks culture wars 101. :clapper:
Nobody's done more to undermine the trans community here than Bryson. He won't be the last to try it on with this bull**** (to coin your terminology) if the SG bill were ever to become law. Listening to Sturgeon tie herself in knots avoiding having to answer whether he is a man or a woman was toe curling.
I just outlined the process, Bryson went through that process and the outcome was what should be expected, it's nothing to do with that rapist. It's all to do with the furore of this toxic trans debate and the political point scoring associated with it. Bryson is being used as a political pawn in this bull**** (my terminology) to the detriment of the trans community, of that there is no doubt and Jack is a main player in that.
I don't actually believe even the SNP's most devoted cultists think there wasn't a political intervention in this case.
It's a bizarre world that she even set foot in Cornton Vale. No one is answering why Katie Dolatowski is still in a female prison. Sexual assault against a girl and beat up a male prisoner, but it's not worldwide news like it has been this week so that's OK.
I was unaware of details too - you can sometimes find them on here after trawling through all the obsessive, repetitive *****.
Without any detail, I was struggling to understand a poster’s insistence on asking the same straightforward question without any context re them being in isolation.
Seemed a bit like how Hibs fans who come on here to read about Hibs won’t be affected by those draining posters who spend every day on hibs.net, as they are restricted to the HG and threads about the SNP or Nicola Sturgeon.
Well I’ve just explained the divergence between the right wing media and the public who ‘identify’ as right wingers so I’ve covered that. If you ‘keep reading’ that it’s ONLY right wingers that oppose the legislation and you feel that’s unfair on the downtrodden right wing underclass or whatever, just call the poster who made this claim out on it, that’s another issue entirely. There’s no reason to throw about the F word at people who are trying to balance two conflicting rights and sometimes get it wrong, as in the trans/safe spaces for women dichotomy, and actual real fascists who for the first time in history currently occupy positions of power in UK government.
Sorry just woke up :-)
And sorry to keep harping on.
From horses mouth it's exactly the process that happened.
And re Government involvement whilst nothing official was mandated.to the SPS I'd have even amazed.if they were unaware of the FMs thoughts.she expressed at FM questions.
I'm not sure why you are thinking that I'm defending 'the downtrodden right wing underclass' whatever that is. I am,however, pushing back on the garbled analysis that appears to say anyone pushing back on a belief system is a fascist. I would go further and say your labeling of UK government as fascist is extremely sloppy. I don't think right wing views, no matter how much I disagree with them, is fascist. And I see nothing fascist about concern for womens rights.