Her intended legacy as Queen Ann, Saviour of the Jambos, is going down the crapper. She's also unlikely to get back any loans, interest due on loans, etc.
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Funny how The Queen Budgie keeps going on about unfair financial hardships etc and not 1 reporter has asked her about the £8m overspend by her club on a stand that isn`t yet finished? She wasn`t
to bothered about p*****g away that money,to bad she didn`t use the money more wisely otherwise they might have been in a better position!
If youd stuck all their remaining matches into all the worlds supercomputers based on the last 18months and simulated the rest of the season a hundred times, theyd probably not makes it off bottom once.In fact they would end up further behind by the end.
Marooned some would say.
Narrative and spin are irrelevant compared to discernible cold hard facts. Any club who compares the facts with spin in any proposal can easily come to their own conclusion as to what is in the best interests of their own club and of course the overall interests of Scottish football. It helps that the latter is of course not what is exercising the minds of the hearts board. Having reached their own conclusion others are just as free as she to privately influence anyone who needs it. The budge, based on her stewardship of her club, is ostensibly barely adequate as a business person and no idea why, judging on the quality of statements issued to date, you conclude any success for her as an influential communicator.
Methinks you worry too much :wink:
You just know the hearts proposal will look after their interests.
I think if we propose a 14 team league we have Dundee United promoted but to determine the rest of the league there is some sort of a play off involving the teams that could have been relegated or in the play offs. I am not quite sure how many teams that involves, possibly hearts, hamilton, St mirren and Ross county plus 2 or 3 from the championship
So we have 8 from SPL plus United and thats 5 places left to share between 7 or 8 teams who play some kind of a pre season round robin.
If hearts end up relegated then tough, all teams though have at least had an opportunity to secure a place in the SPL.
Yep, this is what the Forfar chairman was saying last week - it got kinda lost in the stuff about the ICT viewpoint - his point was that the money was irrelevant to them (they are low in the league so it was only £3500 or so) but the important thing was to know which teams would be in the division for budgetary perspective.
He needed to know if a larger club was to be relegated / remain in the division - as it meant tens of thousands extra through the gate money, and hence they could sign different / better players.
This kind of sensible feedback was lost in the media frenzy about Hearts / Rangers / SPFL in the last few days.
1 hour ago, busby1985 said:
Not sure how anyone can see and hear what has happened over the past months and feel anything other than we’ve been let down massively by Budge. I have been a massive supporter of budge, have a read through my previous posts, I’ve defended her religiously. I started to wobbly a little when she started releasing statements saying that Levein was doing a good job, when he clearly wasn’t. I started to get annoyed when she started having a pop at the fans who where rightly angered at the performances on the park. Major alarm bells started when she “sacked” Levein and MacPhee by keeping them on the payroll and giving them new roles and actual harped back at fans for questioning Levein hanging around. I defended her for her stance at the beginning of the covid outbreak. 50% wage cut or agree terminations. That for me was bang on. I’d prefer we kept all the non playing staff in jobs over most of the charlatan players. She seemed to cave or back down from that stance due to the media pressure but I am willing to soften that stance based on us using the government furlough scheme which meant we didn’t have to be so tough, even tho I would’ve preferred us to be. As it stands now, we still have no idea what the players have decided, we where the first to make noise and now the last to take action. Then there is “Vote Gate” and all it’s glory. Let me be clear, we shouldn’t need league reconstruction to save our position in the top flight. It is clear to everyone and anyone with a brain that something under hand potentially even illegal has taken place with this vote. We have been timid and tame, a position I defended only a few days ago because I thought we had a plan of action to combat this. Now that plan of action turns out to be that we are on a task force to push through league reconstruction and that’s a shambles. Now we may be doing so because technically nothing has actually happened to us yet which is why we are leaving the legal stuff to Partick just now but that is very risky for me. I hope the irony hasn’t been missed in the SPFL choosing us to head up league reconstruction, the side with the most to gain from it. That’ll look good when the vote fails and we start shouting from the roof tops about under hand tactics and favours. It looks and sounds to me like we have no money and in our desperate state will just accept anything if it gets us prize money and some clarity so we can start furloughing players or using article 12. The one thing I always defended budge with was how well run we are off the park.
Sorry for the rant, am genuinely in shock. I can’t believe this is where we have ended. 5 years ago I genuinely believed Budge would revolutionise the Scottish game and had transformed us off the park. As it stands we’ve wasted £10 million of FoH monies. Spent more than double on the main stand. And all we have to show for it is a squad of players that I hate and a relegation/expulsion to deal with. Gutted.
A very heartfelt post.
I started to distrust Ann Budge over Leveins appointment as manager when we were told lies.Its been downhill for me since.
We now owe Budge circa £1.7 m and we were meant to be moving to fan ownership.
Its hard to describe how angry and let down I feel.
We are in financial difficulty and one of the few lifelines is Budge!
I am very concerned about the lack of communication from FOH.
I am in 2 minds whether to stop my FOH contribution which I have never considered before.
It just seems that the membership have been taken for granted.
"The one thing I always defended budge with was how well run we are off the park." lolololol
Can someone remind her that this terrible injustice of relegation will be to the team that’s been the worst in the top flight for all this year and all last year.
What's that Shaun Lawson up to these days?
A short selected piece from another ranter over "there" i love the bit about the number of fans they have !
Many on here saw this coming, not just me but due to mob rule and bullying we were silenced. Well we can’t be silenced anymore. Not one person could possibly argue a case for her now. Her complete lack of focus to what should be the bottom line has caused this. She simply did not care about us being a winning football team, her motives were selfish ones.
She has spent 6 years moulding us into what she feels a football club should be without once stopping to ask what do the 150,000+ Hearts fans want us to be. Vanity project after vanity project that are more at place being projects for the government, Edinburgh City Council or local community centres.
Oh ma sides !
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As it stands we’ve wasted £10 million of FoH monies. Spent more than double on the main stand. And all we have to show for it is a squad of players that I hate and a relegation/expulsion to deal with. Gutted.
It is surprising how long it takes for the penny to drop with some people. Like slow motion sometimes but at least this particular sparry heid has cottoned on. Some of them will never see what has happened at their club and just keep lashing out.
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“I genuinely believed Budge would revolutionise the Scottish game“
lol
The ‘50% wage cut or you’re oot’ debacle really should be the last straw.
Ignore those journalists praising her for taking early action: what has she achieved? Answer: nothing. By issuing an ultimatum to her staff, she destroyed the goodwill on which the furlough process or wage deferrals rely. She really is an impostor - enjoying the trappings and recognition that come with her position, but absolutely useless at decision making.
Go down Hearts and stop bleating. Scottish football is bored with you.
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https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c...gation-2540381
embarrassing that this plum is my MP
What a dick!
Because the variations in current positions and possible final places are huge in terms of the prize money. What happens if the SPFL overpay a club by a few hundred grand then they go to the wall before it can be repaid?Quote:
I’ve no idea why the SPFL couldn’t pay out the money based on current positions and, if necessary, adjust it at a later date when circumstances are clearer
His team were heading that way anyway.Quote:
– rather than imposing potentially disastrous relegations on clubs that could send them to the wall.
He's lost a fair bit of credibility in my eyes.
As much as I find the situation hilarious I wish folk would move away from making remarks on the looks of a 70 odd year old woman.
Here you go folks. In preparation for their relegation and our party, you should find a balcony to suit your financial, hysterical laughing and solo clapping needs here.👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
https://www.hometogo.co.uk/bulgaria/
:greengrin
Some people on social media slagging her looks and age is embarrassing for the football club? Seriously? I don’t think I’ve ever done either but that’s a little hysterical. I’m sure she gets a lot less abuse/flack/anything else than LD has had over the years and LD hasn’t even ever retorted to taking cheap digs at rivals over and over again.
Scottish Labour MP branding another Scottish body a "laughing stock" :faf:
I’m sure I’d have noticed, at least from the bruises on my shins, had I been walking around with eyes shut since then. I actually tend to keep that for sleep. :greengrin
As for due diligence, each and every club that will vote on any proposal arising from the budge’s wee group will indeed exercise their own due diligence. They will decide with the care expected by anyone with such responsibility before entering into any agreement. No one sensibly relies on the investigations and standard of care of the other party to an agreement. Regardless of any shine the author of the proposal attempts to put on it, it will be judged by clubs as to what it means for their own club’s interests. In this case voting in respect to a proposal that has obvious benefit to one club, and possible detriment to many more, will colour judgement of appropriately. Those views will lead the spfl to the right outcome I fully expect.
I think I could work that out with my eyes wide shut. :wink:
...apologies to Percy Shelley
Teams - Rise like Lions after slumber
In your unvanquished number
Shake your chains to earth like dew
Which through social isolation fell on you
Ye are many - budge and friends are few.
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As far as I can make out, IM is always happy to promote IM first and foremost. He certainly used the FoH thing to up his profile then disappeared.
I was disappointed when I came home during the last campaign and my wife told me he had been at the door asking about our voting intentions.
She told him that, while she was voting for him, it was probably best that he didnt come back for a debate with me :greengrin.
The wee fat bawled twat would be better served if he was to enquire of AB when the FOH millions may receive their worthless penny share in a two bit stinking cheating and charity thieving vulgar club. GTF, I am so happy my auld man was green, I would hate to have been one of them
Prepare the balconies...
From the scotsman "Hearts entice fans with Hibs semi-final guarantee as they launch discounted 2020/21 season tickets"
why don't they go ahead and also offer a 10 acre block of land on the moon too!!!!
Started another thread but don`t know how to delte it lol
Thistle are not going to take legal action
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52315021
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11 minutes ago, Italian Lambretta said:
It would be nice to to give them a pre season game with Hearts fans filling their stadium.
Yep. I'm almost at the point of suggesting those cancelling FOH subs to temporarily give them to Partick instead!
Only almost, mind you. That statement almost made me cry, it was so dignified.
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I like the fact they will be speaking to all 42 clubs. Wonder how the conversation with Hearts will go? Now imaging the Smeagol scene in the second Lord of the Rings film as Gollum had the conversation with himself. "The Premiership, we wants it recobstructed, gives it too me, gives me the precioussss"
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Cant they understand? The team finishing last gets relegated?
Why are they wanting to stay up?
Will they want next years bottom club to stay up?
Are they just too massive to go down?
The leagues finished. Hearts finished bottom.
Go away.
You might be down for a while.
This process should be short cutted a quick poll of premier clubs may reveal their is no appetite for it ..
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Exactly. If they don’t get relegated the rest of us have been conned into an absolutely meaningless season. We all know the score at the start of the season, what happens at the end of the season. The season has ended, send them doon. Hamilton sacked their manager to stop them getting relegated this season, now they shouldn’t have done that regardless because relegation doesn’t matter? Same with Caldwell being sacked at Partick.
Ian Murray (MP) just "looks" Hearts.
The forever assistant supervisor in a bank (branch) look, unfashionable head to toe, he just reeks of Hearts.
Can’t be bothered threading everything
But am I reading this right from posts on here
People seem to genuinely believe Budge is being told to come up with reconstruction proposals which would. By implication save Hearts from Relegation
Budge herself is saying she wants to right the wrongs done and by implication doesn’t think Patrick thistle and Stanrarer ?should be relegated
So people think this is a Red Herring and no matter what proposals she comes up with they will be rejected and Hearts will get relegated
Why would she bother to go through the motions if nothing was going to happen about restructuring
Presumably canvassing and persuasion will now go on behind the scenes and it will become as much a perceived mess as the current process has caused
And Did The Rangers say they wouldn’t be Bullied ?Rich coming from them
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