All politicians do what they can to get power and keep it, I am a bit shocked when they admit it mindQuote:
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All politicians do what they can to get power and keep it, I am a bit shocked when they admit it mindQuote:
Originally Posted by grunt
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Originally Posted by Paul1642
you're possibly correct but i'm not too sure about that, SNP insisted SNP 1&2 the last time,which i totally disagreed with, and it's the reason we have,for instance, jackie baillie still in, the Blues got her in, SNP don't play the system, far too nice sometimes :cb
Yep the tactical voting was quite apparent in certain better together seats.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
Greens received 1.29% (zero seats) in the constituency vote and 8.12% (8 seats) at the regional vote. Meanwhile the SNP vote drops by 7.36% between the two and it’s hard to imagine those votes are going to Labour / Tories.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
It’s most likely a bit more complex than this but I think generally speaking greens seats come form SNP vote 2
Jackie Bailie won her constituency if I remember correctly?Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
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SNP should only advocate for voting SNP. If people want to act tactically on their own then that’s up to them.
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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
with the help of blue votes, i should have instead said her winning was enabled by getting the help of Tory voters
Polling expert Prof Sir John Curtice said the result made it unlikely that the SNP would achieve an overall majority.
He added: "Her success looks as though it has been assisted by a squeeze on the third place Conservatives.
Polling expert Prof Sir John Curtice said the result made it unlikely that the SNP would achieve an overall majority.
He added: "Her success looks as though it has been assisted by a squeeze on the third place Conservatives.
"Unionist tactical voting seems to have played a key role in denying the SNP their majority in this election."
"Unionist tactical voting seems to have played a key role in denying the SNP their majority in this election."
I agree with that. Tactical voting did play a part in that. Labour and Tory voters in Scotland are more than happy to swap votes. Their parties tacitly accept it and they pull funding from certain seats to send the dog whistle for it to happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
I just don’t think the SNP should be going down the same route but if you want it then the co-alition with the greens is it’s own dog whistle that giving second vote to greens is acceptable to them.
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European groups back Scotland's 'world-leading' deposit return scheme | The National
There are fears that the UK Government could block the legislation under its post-Brexit Internal Market Act, with Scottish Secretary Alister Jack calling for the plans to be dropped and a UK-wide scheme to be set up instead.
All candidates for first minister have suggested changing the plans in various ways, with Humza Yousaf calling for a pause for smaller firms, Kate Forbes saying she'd pause the whole scheme and Ash Regan pledging to scrap it in its current form.
looks like Humza is the right choice :greengrin
But now several organisations across Europe have said the new legislation has inspired new systems – in Turkey, Romania and Greece in 2023; Ireland and Hungary in 2024; and Austria in 2025.
what a progressive country we are, if only their weren't British Unionists fighting against us
Maybe a case of green voters giving their first vote to snp as there wasn't a green candidate in the constituency seat?Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul1642
Why would any Greens vote for a party that made the economic case for independence on the basis of extracting oil? Fossil fuel extraction is still a key plank for the SNP.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
Surely no self-respecting Green with any sense of integrity would give up their core principles to help a party like that? Say it ain’t so!
All I was saying was it wasn't necessarily the case that snp 1 vote then voted green, it's possible that it was the other way round.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mibbes Aye
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...box=1679955404
Decent assessment of the direction the SNP need to go in. Hopefully over next couple of days we start to see Yousaf put a decent cabinet together.
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Another take, noticed it below the article you linked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...tland-politics
https://twitter.com/anandmenon1/stat...dxJXScFNwz8V4A
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Sturgeon goes full subservient in her letter to Charlie
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That’s boggin, especially the “obedient servant” part. Boke.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
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I think you'll find that's a standard way of writing a letter to a reigning monarch, some folk will see anything to have a dig.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
It's not a dig but it is pathetic. What would happen if she didn't write it in a grovelling way?Quote:
Originally Posted by J-C
she'd be arrested and thrown in jail, probably.:greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
at the very least right wing rags would demand her head be cut off for treason and she be the target of lunatic unionist extermists.
If she hadn't written it as she did she'd have been vilified in the press.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
But what new stuff would have happened?Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
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I don't believe that. She could have wrote a formal letter and the only people that would disapprove are never going to vote for her or independence. I don't think she usually ruled in a way to pander to the right wing media eitherQuote:
Originally Posted by grunt
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Originally Posted by grunt
And cost her ,her chance of a seat in the House of Lords ! :greengrin
The SNP have up until now never taken a seat in the Lords. Would be quite the development for her to break that.Quote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
Where have you been for the last 9 years?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
It’s Swinney I feel for, in all this. At least Sturgeon had a forelock to tug :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
It's not pathetic, it's protocol. Whether or not you agree in a monarchy, they still have to be addressed accordingly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
I agree 100% it’s a centuries old tradition :agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by J-C
Tradition is sometimes ignored, Blair didn’t follow convention when corresponding with Charles (although that’s when he was a mere Prince of course, but there’s still convention there).Quote:
Originally Posted by Berwickhibby
https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/may/13/humble-and-obedient-how-ministers-defied-etiquette-in-replies-to-charles