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24-10-2014, 07:54 PM
Bostonhibby

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Originally Posted by portycabbage

There's this barry company called ticketus who I'm sure could advance them a few quid.

:tee hee: The way its heading over at greyskull, if Kennedy was to throw in all the chips they can eat that would probably swing the deal - got to be better than discounts on shell suits made in Bangladesh for every The rangers fan from Mike the Geordie Ashley.
24-10-2014, 08:01 PM
mca

That Schum are just like the neighbours ... Probably come out in a better position than they were.. :agree:
24-10-2014, 08:58 PM
heretoday

Don't like the look of Kennedy. He's a bit of a corner boy I reckon.

I'm seldom wrong.
25-10-2014, 06:51 AM
Phil D. Rolls

So, did we miss a trick when Farmer wouldn't sell to Kennedy? I'd love to hear from any of the large number of fans who thought he was our saviour in 1998.
25-10-2014, 07:47 AM
DarlingtonHibee

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Originally Posted by Phil D. Rolls

So, did we miss a trick when Farmer wouldn't sell to Kennedy? I'd love to hear from any of the large number of fans who thought he was our saviour in 1998.

No trick was missed.
25-10-2014, 07:50 AM
Jim44

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Originally Posted by bingo70

Fun as it is I'm not sure it's a great thing for Hibs if they were to go into admin again. They've got a better chance of catching hearts than we do and I'd fancy our chances in a 2 leg play off more against hearts than I would the rangers.

Them going to admin would go a fair way to gifting hearts the title imo.

If they went into admin again, would they not be docked 25 points? If that happened there is every likelihood they would miss out on a play-off spot. Surely that's a scenario that suits us.
25-10-2014, 08:00 AM
bingo70

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Originally Posted by Jim44

If they went into admin again, would they not be docked 25 points? If that happened there is every likelihood they would miss out on a play-off spot. Surely that's a scenario that suits us.

Imo they'd still make the play offs comfortably.
25-10-2014, 08:43 AM
Spike Mandela

Phil MacG has been all over this for weeks and has imo, again, , got more of an insight on it than the MSM......

http://www.philmacgiollabhain.ie/she...pen/#more-5249
25-10-2014, 08:53 AM
CallumLaidlaw

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Originally Posted by bingo70

Imo they'd still make the play offs comfortably.

Depends what players they had to get rid of.
25-10-2014, 09:09 AM
Phil D. Rolls

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Originally Posted by jacomoseven

I'm not discounting the possibility that Dave King is a fantasist.

Maybe they now need to give Mike Ashley whatever he wants to stave off administration.

Where's Brian Kennedy? Is it time for Mr Quantum to put his 'consortium' back together?

Im not discounting the possibility that he's a fantasy. There seems to be only one piece of footage of him in existence.

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Originally Posted by Spike Mandela

Phil MacG has been all over this for weeks and has imo, again, , got more of an insight on it than the MSM......

http://www.philmacgiollabhain.ie/she...pen/#more-5249

yeah, but he is a bigoted **** stirring nob.
25-10-2014, 09:38 AM
Ronniekirk

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Originally Posted by emerald green

I'm no expert on all this stuff, but that might just see them through until the end of the season without going into administration. Time will tell.

That's what I think ,they would rather just cobble things together in the short term to get them to the end of the season , when they are assuming they will then shift all Thier season tickets on back of playing Celtic again and Sponsers will be flocking back .
What I stuggle to get my head round is the way it's just accepted that they have been allowed to overspend in the way they have and get themselves into this mess ,as the SFA are so blatantly desperate to get them back into the top flight .The Easdales will do whatever it takes to still be in power as they know when they are back in top flight ,it's pathetic to watch .
25-10-2014, 10:00 AM
semaj64

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Originally Posted by Ronniekirk

That's what I think ,they would rather just cobble things together in the short term to get them to the end of the season , when they are assuming they will then shift all Thier season tickets on back of playing Celtic again and Sponsers will be flocking back .
What I stuggle to get my head round is the way it's just accepted that they have been allowed to overspend in the way they have and get themselves into this mess ,as the SFA are so blatantly desperate to get them back into the top flight .The Easdales will do whatever it takes to still be in power as they know when they are back in top flight ,it's pathetic to watch .

Totally agree, sounds like they will just overspend to get through, bump all the debts again and start afresh, Only the Ashleys. Kennedy's etc of this world will make cash out of this. Seems to be no rules/laws against this behaviour. Authorities quite happy to allow this Fair Financial play. Fantastic if they did not get up
25-10-2014, 10:26 AM
Eyrie

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Originally Posted by Phil D. Rolls

So, did we miss a trick when Farmer wouldn't sell to Kennedy? I'd love to hear from any of the large number of fans who thought he was our saviour in 1998.

You're not paying attention. It's essential that Farmer sells and irrelevant who he sells to.

If only he'd taken advantage of Kennedy's generosity back then we could be renting at Almondvale whilst Edinburgh Rugby play at Easter Road and that has to be a good thing because we wouldn't be owned by Farmer and have his conduit pulling the strings behind the scenes.
25-10-2014, 10:40 AM
greenginger

Looks like Ashley is going to be the new Ibrox ( sorry Sports Direct Stadium ) king-pin.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/29761396

I wonder if our football chiefs will have anything to say about his duel ownership issues.
25-10-2014, 10:44 AM
Pretty Boy

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Originally Posted by greenginger

Looks like Ashley is going to be the new Ibrox ( sorry Sports Direct Stadium ) king-pin.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/29761396

I wonder if our football chiefs will have anything to say about his duel ownership issues.

'The SFA and SPFL would like to once again remind concerned parties that it is well established that the rules do not apply to Rangers in the same way they do to everyone else.'
25-10-2014, 10:51 AM
Phil D. Rolls

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Originally Posted by DarlingtonHibee

No trick was missed.

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Originally Posted by Eyrie

You're not paying attention. It's essential that Farmer sells and irrelevant who he sells to.

If only he'd taken advantage of Kennedy's generosity back then we could be renting at Almondvale whilst Edinburgh Rugby play at Easter Road and that has to be a good thing because we wouldn't be owned by Farmer and have his conduit pulling the strings behind the scenes.

But, there was people talking about him taking over at ER in the summer. Hey, what if they don't know about him trying to buy us, then destroying Stockport County, maybe we should warn them.
25-10-2014, 11:00 AM
greenginger

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Originally Posted by Pretty Boy

'The SFA and SPFL would like to once again remind concerned parties that it is well established that the rules do not apply to Rangers in the same way they do to everyone else.'

The Bears are already on it.

http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/ranger...hip.1412888034

Mind you if Ashley promises millions and says FTP a couple of times , he'll be accepted with open arms. :greengrin
25-10-2014, 11:54 AM
weonlywon6-2

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Originally Posted by emerald green

Sounds like turmoil continues at Greyskull. :greengrin I think I might have heard on the news at 6 o'clock that a board meeting was currently taking place.

Did I hear correctly that they could be struggling to meet the November payroll?

I think the robbing Peter to pay Paul springs to mind at Ibrox just now,what a mess.
25-10-2014, 12:41 PM
jacomo

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Originally Posted by greenginger

The Bears are already on it.

http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/ranger...hip.1412888034

Mind you if Ashley promises millions and says FTP a couple of times , he'll be accepted with open arms. :greengrin

Hilarious. Considering their current situation, Ashley is offering a lifeline. Of course he probably just wants to make money out of the club, but so does everyone else.
25-10-2014, 01:18 PM
RIP

Yet another example should we need it of the case for clubs owned by their communities rather than the profiteers. Big business is ripping the heart out of clubs while the Scottish Government stands idly by.

Ever since the first bond launch those Rangers fans have ploughed cash into their club only to see it end up lining the pockets of directors.
25-10-2014, 01:45 PM
jacomo

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Originally Posted by Spike Mandela

Phil MacG has been all over this for weeks and has imo, again, , got more of an insight on it than the MSM......

http://www.philmacgiollabhain.ie/she...pen/#more-5249

My daughters guinea pigs have more insight into this story than the MSM...
25-10-2014, 01:47 PM
jdships

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Originally Posted by Sergey

SEVCO and Kennedy sound like a perfect match.

I got speaking to a few Stockport County fans a few weeks ago and he's basically eked every last dime out of that club - and moved their ground into personal ownership.

Kennedy is no football fan, that is for sure.

agree:" Not to be trusted" was what was said to me by S C fan earlier this year
25-10-2014, 01:59 PM
Ozyhibby

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Originally Posted by RIP

Yet another example should we need it of the case for clubs owned by their communities rather than the profiteers. Big business is ripping the heart out of clubs while the Scottish Government stands idly by.

Ever since the first bond launch those Rangers fans have ploughed cash into their club only to see it end up lining the pockets of directors.

The Scottish Govt has no control over industrial policy or business.
That's Westminster's job. You'll be glad of that, I'm sure.
25-10-2014, 01:59 PM
jacomo

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Originally Posted by Eyrie

You're not paying attention. It's essential that Farmer sells and irrelevant who he sells to.

If only he'd taken advantage of Kennedy's generosity back then we could be renting at Almondvale whilst Edinburgh Rugby play at Easter Road and that has to be a good thing because we wouldn't be owned by Farmer and have his conduit pulling the strings behind the scenes.

Very droll. I must have missed the campaign to bring Brian Kennedy to ER.

I was only joking about him resurfacing again... seems even Der Hun aren't dumb enough to fall for his patter, and these are Ra Peepul who ended up with Craig Whyte.
25-10-2014, 02:06 PM
Spike Mandela

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Originally Posted by jacomoseven

My daughters guinea pigs have more insight into this story than the MSM...

What are they saying likes?:greengrin
25-10-2014, 03:32 PM
Famous Fiver

Ashley owns shares in Rangers (8 or 9%), has stadium naming rights, controls retail merchandise sales, is putting two place men on the Board, lends them £2Mill, will underwrite a share issue, (all according to reports) yet owns 100% of Newcastle United!!! I thought there were rules in place to stop this happening. What is going on in the corridors of power in Scottish football while all this is going on?

The whole thing stinks
25-10-2014, 03:42 PM
hibbysam

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Originally Posted by Famous Fiver

Ashley owns shares in Rangers (8 or 9%), has stadium naming rights, controls retail merchandise sales, is putting two place men on the Board, lends them £2Mill, will underwrite a share issue, (all according to reports) yet owns 100% of Newcastle United!!! I thought there were rules in place to stop this happening. What is going on in the corridors of power in Scottish football while all this is going on?

The whole thing stinks

He isn't allowed to have more than a 9% shareholding in another side... Hence why he can't keep ploughing money in for shares... He doesn't have control over stadium name and merchandising stores, his company does... This is how he manages to get away with this I'm afraid!
25-10-2014, 04:02 PM
Jim Herriot

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Originally Posted by keekaboo

That's a shame because, among other things, there's a potential 25 point penalty looming if they can't reach an agreement and go into Administration.

Even aside from the fun of watching it, that part could well benefit Hibs.

p.s. You care so little that you took the time to post on here telling us just that :wink:

Wouldn't it be sweet to see The rangers relegated to the third tier?

Or would it be The The rangers applying to join the fourth tier? That would be even sweeter.

Sweetest of all would be Spartans beating TTRFC for admission. How does a new club enter the Lowland league?
25-10-2014, 04:06 PM
Viva_Palmeiras

"First they came for Rangers, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a [insert expletive]
Next they came for the Rangers, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a [insert expletive]...."

thats it actually ;)
25-10-2014, 05:13 PM
jacomo

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Originally Posted by Famous Fiver

Ashley owns shares in Rangers (8 or 9%), has stadium naming rights, controls retail merchandise sales, is putting two place men on the Board, lends them £2Mill, will underwrite a share issue, (all according to reports) yet owns 100% of Newcastle United!!! I thought there were rules in place to stop this happening. What is going on in the corridors of power in Scottish football while all this is going on?

The whole thing stinks

He's not supposed to have any board room influence either, which is clearly laughable. Tbf to Ashley, he is simply exploiting the rules in the same way as others have done - Chelsea and Vitesse Arnheim being one example. He's rich and fearless and won't let the SFA get in his way.

Given his troubled relationship with the Toon fans, he won't give a toss about any reaction from the Hordes either, unless they really do stop buying the merch. I reckon the Govan branch of Sports Direct will do just fine.

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