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I completely agree. it has to borne in mind that he's not had much game time and seems to be a player that needs a bit of time to get going sometimes. I recall he had been just coming on to a game for Dundee after a long time on the sidelines when we took him on loan and he was superb for us. I thought he did ok if not spectacular on Saturday and still managed an assist.Quote:
Originally Posted by keep the faith
Mon Scotty.
We’ve got a load of pacy wide men now who need quality passes from midfield. Time to deliver.
He won’t get much of a chance and fully expect him to be away in January.
Tend to agree with this. Last night showed he is surplus to requirements.Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffers
You also have to look at it from Scott Allan's perspective. Hopefully it motivates SA to prove he is a great player but to think the manager was happy to ship him out, must be pretty demoralising.
It's part and parcel of a footballers career.Quote:
Originally Posted by loanheadhibby
I'm more concerned about Drey Wright TBH.
I think Scott Allan already knew this, hence him wanting a move. Whether JR was totally honest with him or not the player could see he wasn’t going to get anywhere near enough game time.Quote:
Originally Posted by loanheadhibby
Still must be tough to take. SA will need to motivate himself for training/playing when he knows manager does not fancy him.Quote:
Originally Posted by flash
Works both ways I suppose as there was a time SA was highly in demand whilst at Hibs
Not necessarily. I doubt if the subject of him moving on was only frantically broached at 11 pm last night. It will have been discussed a while back and he probably accepted the possibility. In fact, SA himself might even have instigated a possible move. He won’t be demoralised in any way, I’m sure he will get his head down and give 100% when he gets the chance. Hopefully that’s quite often.Quote:
Originally Posted by loanheadhibby
JR knows more about his physical shape than me. Possibly thinks SA not up to the rigours or possibly not able to perform in JR preferred style or formation.Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffers
I still think SA has loads to offer. If we are left at any point with 1 fit striker, he could possibly play just off a main striker.
Just be great if he could get back to near his best as there's nobody better at what he does.Quote:
Originally Posted by loanheadhibby
Jury is out on him. Anoymous for first 30 Hibs of his appearance. Looked half hearted in his efforts. Don't know if down to the deal that fell through. Difficult situation for him now. Needs to to prove himself in front of JR to get game time to have a chance of getting another contract with another team.Quote:
Originally Posted by loanheadhibby
What? Half hearted? You’re having a laugh?!Quote:
Originally Posted by FilipinoHibs
He has a serious condition that might just impact on his performances and physical fitness. Give the guy a break. He might no longer be able to keep up with top flight football but there is zero reason to doubt the mans talent or desire to perform.
Honestly what a ridiculous post.
That's a bit harsh to put it mildly.Quote:
Originally Posted by FilipinoHibs
It will be very difficult situation. SA will argue (rightly so like every player in squad) that he can’t prove himself in 10 mins, here, 30 mins there.Quote:
Originally Posted by FilipinoHibs
What can he do in training that he’s not already been doing?
The only way he will prove himself is by playing 90 mins a week and sadly for him it looks like JR is not going to give him 90 mins every week.
Can’t see him being too happy getting 30 mins here and there.
Totally agree. Obviously we don’t know the in’s and out’s re his fitness, but a fully fit SA can still bring a bit of magic to the team. He’s got a football brain/vision that no one else in the team has in my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by flash
Funny how folk see things differently. I thought he looked like he was knocking his pan in, was desperate to get involved and got visibly frustrated when he was struggling to influence the game as he might want to.Quote:
Originally Posted by FilipinoHibs
Eventually though, he worked his way into the game and capped the determination off with a fine assist.
It wasn't vintage Scott Allan by any means and he looked understandably rusty. He also struggled a bit to link up with some team-mates, sometimes they just didn't seem to be on the same wavelength - he'd want the ball, they either wouldn't or couldn't give it to him.
Any criticism of his attitude though is totally wide of the mark.
He just screamed "needs to be playing more" to me, as it was an understandable lack of match sharpness that he was showing.
Given the timings it wasn’t pre-meditated. It was an opportunity we tried to exploit that would have benefited everyone involved. I doubt SA will take it to heart, in fact I think it will spur him on to be more involved.Quote:
Originally Posted by loanheadhibby
In what respect ? My only concern with Wright is that he is still on the payroll, contributes less than nothing and a total waste of a wage, whoever saw this guy as an improvement to our squad needs to follow him out the door.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peevemor
Simply that I think Scott is better equipped mentally to deal with the situation. Wright has been showing signs of regaining a bit of confidence & form and I hope this won't be a setback.Quote:
Originally Posted by delbert
Supposedly Ross isn’t that much of a fan of Scott Allan… thinks he is lazy.
Scott’s health issues are also still a factor in his game time and perhaps the perception he is lazy.
Maybe Scott Allen and drew Wright were quote happy to move as they know there game time will limited and the reason it didn't happen was on mcgrath not wanting to move
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Originally Posted by May21/05/16
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Your really not a fan are you?Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffers
Of who ?Quote:
Originally Posted by keep the faith
Up to Allan and Wright to prove themselves now. Personally don't think Allan has anything to prove, but so be it.
Apparently all parties (Hibs, St Mirren, McGrath, Allan and Wright) had agreed to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by May21/05/16
He got a full half on Saturday. You are not going to drop Doyle, Magennis or Newell to give him 90 minutes. JR sees him everyday. He looks a touch overweight and not as athletic as he did at his peak. I don't what that is down to. But he does not look capable of the athletic skillful play he is once capable of. Sadly but that is the reality.Quote:
Originally Posted by loanheadhibby
Allan. You are fairly vocal on any thread about him. I do wonder why so many seem so content with it not working out. Surely he is worth backing and not writing off? He is a special talent and only 29.Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffers
And yet a fully fit ,vibrant Scott Allan is a better footballer than all 3 in my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by FilipinoHibs
Hopefully his best days are not behind him and he can return to the level we all know he can reach. I’m loathed to think those days are in the past.