He also knows McCann so I assume he's keen to work with him again.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
Hopefully he'll start pulling up trees for ICT and show us what we're missing. I have my doubts though.
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He also knows McCann so I assume he's keen to work with him again.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
Hopefully he'll start pulling up trees for ICT and show us what we're missing. I have my doubts though.
Not to mention a Cup match or more!Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
Fortunately the football club is pragmatic in it's business dealings and in this case I suspect Inverness were the only club in Scotland that wanted him and more importantly that could afford to pay a loan fee.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
What should amuse some Hibs supporters is that the cash for his loan probably came from Hearts supporters.
On behalf of Hibs I would therefore like to thank Hearts supporters for paying a chunk of Scott's wages and helping with his recovery :aok:.
Did'nt do too much when he came on, however it coincided with them taking the lead. Also it was noticeable the way he was talking the ICT players through a nervy last 10 mins.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
Me too, but is a good move for him and if it is what he wants it is a win/win/win. Hope he does well but he isn't the answer for us at the moment and he is better playing to see if he can get his fitness and stamina back. I wish it had been The Pars though and he could try and chip away at Hearts Championship lead.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
Hope he does well with them and gets some fitness back, who knows where it will take him but hope it is back with Hibs, if not then all the best to a great wee player.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liam978
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Hopefully Aberdeen can make us play well in Europe as well 👍Quote:
Originally Posted by thebausburst
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Originally Posted by WeeRussell
If anybody knows Scotty tell there's a shandy for him in The Castle Tavern any Friday Saturday night, after 26th April obviously.
Horrible feeling that it’s the beginning of the end of his time with us .
You don’t let one of your most creative and skilful players go out on loan to get fit for the next season , when your trying to cement the most important 3rd league finish in recent memory. Not to mention maybe another Scottish cup run .
Different circumstances though with his health issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by erin go bragh
We’ve got to this point without really using him and we have a pretty strong bench just now.
Add in that bad pitches mean we are playing in a different way at the moment.
I think as much as anything he wants to test where he is. Hopefully these games and a pre season and he will be back to being a key player.
Agreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by erin go bragh
We will need to see how he is after a full pre season but the first part of your post may be true.Quote:
Originally Posted by erin go bragh
Like it or not, and I say this in no way placing blame on anyone’s door at all but because of his horrendous luck with this heart condition he’s not been able to play or develop for months. There’s no guarantee that after a long time out of the game or struggling to play properly that Scott Allan right now is the same Scott Allan we know and love in a footballing sense.
If he can’t play to the standard required for a team like Hibs after a good pre season then I’m sure he will move on. I’d imagine that he will be looking just to play and enjoy football after such a scare and the loan will allow him to get a bit of match fitness back, and when he returns and reintegrated himself with Hibs and has a good pre season I desperately hopes that we see the best of him again. If that’s not possible I hope he can find a club where he is appreciated as much as he is at Hibs.
I’ve got every faith in the club. SA wouldn’t be forced in to a move he wasn’t keen on. Shows how keen he is to get back to full fitness.
I think this is actually a massively important point. Scott was close to never playing football again, this month or two will be a huge time for him to maybe even put his mind at ease over his ability to keep playing without risking his health. He'll be able to push himself and his body again to those limits required to play at a professional level that we just couldn't afford to allow him to do so at this moment. He'll learn a lot about himself and how far he's come this year for sure and Hibs will be able to make better decisions on him once he's back for pre season with all this under his belt and the work being done.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy74
For me, and it’s only my opinion, but in amongst everything that’s happened with Allan. Before his enforced absence, last season and the start of this season I didn’t think he looked the same player as his previous two spells. That’s not to say he was a bad player, but a bit like Mallan, while his goal involvement stats were good his impact on an overall game was nowhere as effective as those first two spells, IMO, and I began to wonder if he was an automatic starter anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Northernhibee
In mitigation, with a balanced midfield around him for the first time this spell he might well recapture his previous brilliance. However, as others have said, I can’t but help feel this is the beginning of the end as well.
As long as he is not being forced out the club.
Scott is the type of player we should be wanting to build a team around.
I’d bloody love for him to establish himself in our first team again. Love it.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Modfather
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Originally Posted by Andy74
What makes you think he is being forced out the club? JR’s comments clarify the situation. The club would have preferred him to stay but he was keen to go out on loan for a better chance of getting match time. I don’t think there is anything sinister in the arrangement, unless JR is lying, which I strongly doubt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicho87
Our most skilful and creative player has had zero impact on the field this season. He isn't getting any game time and was unlikely to. It is the beginning of the end of he stayed! As it is he has gone on loan to make something happen for himself. Good luck Scott.Quote:
Originally Posted by erin go bragh
Ross says the right things. If he didn’t want him to go on loan he would still be with us. He didn’t want Mallan to go on loan either or sell Shaw if you believe him, but one is playing in Turkey the other is a Ross County player.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim44
Hibs should be much stronger here and refuse to let the player go out on loan.
Magennis and Wright now move up the substitute pecking order and the creative option of Allan even for just 20/30 minutes in the run in has gone.
Aberdeen away and 2 home games with Hibs dire home form and the Scottish cup means there is still plenty to play for.
Very weak management by Jack Ross.
Exactly, he said he 'wanted' him as part of the squad - past tense, but that's not happening, so he's away and - in my opinion (call it made up if you want)- he won't be back, as the statement makes no mention of him coming back or that being the plan in any.Quote:
Originally Posted by Borderhibbie76
Scott Allan states directly in his post match interview that he's at ICT to get up to fitness, in order to return to Hibs next season. The Hibs statement pretty much said the same thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenio
Allan will be with us next season like he has said, but if I'm wrong and he isn't, I'm willing to trust the judgement of the man who has (probably) led us to 3rd for the first time in absolute donkeys. Some folk reading way too much into what Ross said and trying to find cryptic clues when what he said was pretty clear. Scott Allan's interview should stop the crazy talk.
Actually of points
1. Does his bulking up reduce his agility and speed?
2. You break a non match fit player in matches that you
are winning easily or losing heavily. We have not had many of those situations since Scott became available.
We're in a tight race for third with Aberdeen, can't afford to be starting players who aren't completely match sharp just to build up their fitness when there's only 5 league games left.Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffers
Just heard that, right enough Scott Allan said that his aim is to come back to Hibs at the end of the season. The Hibs statement didn't make any mention of that though. Anyway, none of us really know the truth, so we're all just speculatingQuote:
Originally Posted by Vault Boy
Why would the club need to say he will be back? He is only away on loan and both parties explained why, folk read far to much into things sometimes, not everything that happens in the world needs scrutinisedQuote:
Originally Posted by Greenio