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I see that the EU has just signed a trade agreement with (basically) South America... And we're going to miss out... Oh well. Mind you, as per Boris etc these deals are easy, this one was only 20 years in negotiation after all.
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So the EU has been getting on with the day job protecting and enhancing their members lot while at the same time the UK tory government couldn't hold up a half sheet of A4 with any agreement on it that they come to with any country about anything!Quote:
Originally Posted by Just Alf
Does anybody actually remember life pre EU? My memories are those of a country that was an absolute ****hole and the sick man of Europe. I remember visiting East Berlin after the wall came down and it was like a trip down memory lane. Astonishingly it's the generation before me that has overwhelmingly voted for a return to the time where we lagged behind the rest of Europe in almost every positive way possible. I don't get it, I really don't get it.
Brexiters I know aren't hankering after the 1950s. They're nostalgic for the Victorian era.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
Great, so sending kids up chimneys and poor houses. Or do these people really believe we all drove round in horse drawn carriages wearing top hats and tails.Quote:
Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
Don't think Rees Moggy's like would have any problem sleeping if radical reforms like The Not Sending Children Up Chimneys Act were undone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
Spoken for truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
The Victorian sense of exceptionalism, combined with a healthy free trade attitude and a moral small-c conservatism is a perfect fit for many parliamentarians and members.
jo swinson and Ed davey both saying the lib-dems would not form a coalition with labour if Corbyn was still at the helm
They'd form a coalition with absolutely any party that gives them a share of power.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
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Originally Posted by stoneyburn hibs
100% swinson would
and probably the same % for Davey :greengrin
Fauxrage's MEPs have turned their backs on the EU anthem again, just as they did 5 years ago. Guerilla warfare against the political elite or what. Wonder if it'll have the devastating effect now that it obviously had back then.
Philip Hammond in the Commons:
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it would be wrong to pursue no deal as a policy and I believe it will be for Commons, of which I will continue proudly to be a member, to ensure that doesn't happen
Also Hammond:
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Let me go further, the government’s analysis suggests that in a disruptive no-deal exit there will be a hit to the exchequer of about £90bn.
He knows hes getting sacked whoever wins.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
Beyond embarrassing.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...tion-of-slaves
Deranged.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
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https://news.sky.com/story/philip-ha...tober-11757279
Looks very much like we are heading to a GE.
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Mon the Phil-istines!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
A tory/brexitparty/ukip/DUP coalition should hopefully seal the deal for us.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
All Nicola’s dreams come true.[emoji23]Quote:
Originally Posted by Fife-Hibee
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The Gruniad meets Still Game on Widdecombe:Quote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
"There really is something of the ***** about her" :faf:
Labour's position is apparently about to shift. Aiui they want:
- a ref2 on any Tory deal or no deal and they will campaign to remain
- if there's a GE, they will campaign to renegotiate a Labour Brexit deal and that will also be put to a ref2. The decision whether to campaign to remain in that ref2 or take their own deal and brexit will be taken later depending on what they negotiate.
There you are, crystal. :confused:
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Good point.
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Part 1 of Lab's new position now confirmed by Corbyn.
BUT no confirmation of part 2. Apparently that has to wait on their manifesto "process".
Bizarre, given that it's the lack of a clear position on what they would do in power that's killing them and they're not shy on saying what they'd do about any number of other things. :rolleyes:
So how many brexiteers knew that "taking back control" was all about handing it straight over to the US?
Is this all part of the masterplan to make Britain great again?
If you knew bible prophecy then you'd know why such moves are being made.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fife-Hibee
Really? Love to know your thinking hereQuote:
Originally Posted by Slavers
I know nothing of "bible prophecy". But i'll pray that it's Jesus coming down from the clouds to banish the anti-christ that has taken over America and now the UK as well. :pray:Quote:
Originally Posted by Slavers
Amber Rudd accepts no deal as a possible outcome.
Craven self interest. :rolleyes:
Only a matter of time until the first Ruth Davidson "what Scotland needs is no deal" speech.