The EU Referendum (How did you vote?)

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Originally Posted by James310

In breaking news Nicola Sturgeon feels the resignation of Theresa May means we need Independence. Who would have thought.

She also managed to demand a General Election, another EU referendum and a further Independence referendum in her short statement today and all of them before 2021.

Just what the country needs.

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Do you think the country needs BoJo or Gove?

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Originally Posted by marinello59

Do you think the country needs BoJo or Gove?

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The country needs BoJo

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Originally Posted by makaveli1875

The country needs BoJo

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****ing hell.

No BoJo for me, to much of a liability and bound to make some gaffe or another. Although many predicted Trump would not last as long as he has.

If Gove can put in performances like he did a few months back against Corbyn at PMs questions he stands a good chance, ripped him a new one.

https://youtu.be/U1_OzDbOakM



But let's wait and see what the others bring.

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Originally Posted by Slavers

Sweeping generalisations and assumptions leaves no room for discussion and are made by you to confirm your own bias.

The topic was debated to death prior to the referendum and to say that everyone who voted to leave is only down to ignorance is just deluded arrogance on your part.

Anyway I have gave my reason why I voted for the Brexit Party so to try ensure the democratic result is honoured.

If anything just so that future referendum results are honoured the same way, even if I don't like the result such a vote for Scottish Independence, that's how democracy should work.

Oh how strange it will be if and when Scotland votes for independence and the very same forces spring into action and conspire to reverse the result without it ever being implemented.

I do wonder how you would react to that?

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But your “reasons for voting Brexit party” are demonstrably bollocks. They don’t have a manifesto to hold them to account so you have literally no idea what they are going to do nor have they given themselves any recourse for if you are let down by them.

No sweeping generalisations, unless you voted for us to have worse trading conditions than Mauritania? And of course if you did you’ll need to point out who said it would be like that before the referendum took place.

Please, go ahead. Prove me wrong.

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Originally Posted by James310

No BoJo for me, to much of a liability and bound to make some gaffe or another. Although many predicted Trump would not last as long as he has.

If Gove can put in performances like he did a few months back against Corbyn at PMQs questions he stands a good chance, ripped him a new one.

https://youtu.be/U1_OzDbOakM


But let's wait and see what the other bring.

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Ripping Corbyn a new one at PMQs doesn't qualify anyone for the job of prime minister. Hell, I would be in with a chance.

Proportional representation would be fair, if Scotland was merely a region of a country. Scotland isn't a region of a country, it IS a country.

We have our own culture, our own values, our own flag and our own parliament.

We have everything every other country has with the exception of full democratic control over our own affairs. Something we will never have within the UK.

Not that the argument really matters however. We're just a mere region in the eyes of British Unionists.

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Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns

Ripping Corbyn a new one at PMQs doesn't qualify anyone for the job of prime minister. Hell, I would be in with a chance.

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No, you would be more like this.

https://youtu.be/Wny6XhsV2hE

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Originally Posted by James310

No BoJo for me, to much of a liability and bound to make some gaffe or another. Although many predicted Trump would not last as long as he has.

If Gove can put in performances like he did a few months back against Corbyn at PMs questions he stands a good chance, ripped him a new one.

https://youtu.be/U1_OzDbOakM



But let's wait and see what the other bring.

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Gove, a man who took elocution lessons to rid himself of his Aberdeen accent. PM questions is pantomime , it really doesn’t matter. He’s just another odious Tory.

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Originally Posted by James310

No BoJo for me, to much of a liability and bound to make some gaffe or another. Although many predicted Trump would not last as long as he has.

If Gove can put in performances like he did a few months back against Corbyn at PMs questions he stands a good chance, ripped him a new one.

https://youtu.be/U1_OzDbOakM



But let's wait and see what the others bring.

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Boris seems able to get away with gaffe after gaffe though, which might be useful if he were to become PM.

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Originally Posted by James310

No, you would be more like this.

https://youtu.be/Wny6XhsV2hE

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Do I detect some personal abuse?

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Originally Posted by makaveli1875

The country needs BoJo

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BoJo may be shortly defending a court case about his lying in public office. If he loses and is sentenced to the maximum life imprisonment, will that affect his ability to be PM in any way? :dunno:

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Originally Posted by lapsedhibee

BoJo may be shortly defending a court case about his lying in public office. If he loses and is sentenced to the maximum life imprisonment, will that affect his ability to be PM in any way? :dunno:

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He could join the catalonian politicians.

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Originally Posted by James310

No, you would be more like this.

https://youtu.be/Wny6XhsV2hE

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I take it you're the toff in the crowd asking the question, surrounded by your english tory mates?

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Originally Posted by Fife-Hibee

Proportional representation would be fair, if Scotland was merely a region of a country. Scotland isn't a region of a country, it IS a country.

We have our own culture, our own values, our own flag and our own parliament.

We have everything every other country has with the exception of full democratic control over our own affairs. Something we will never have within the UK.

Not that the argument really matters however. We're just a mere region in the eyes of British Unionists.

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I don’t know where you get this “We” from. You don’t have a right to use “We” in reference to the people who live in Scotland.

In case it missed your attention a sizeable majority voted in the independence referendum to keep things as they were, “Thanks, but no thanks”.

You speak for a minority, or rather, a disaffected rump.

I suggest that in the interests of factual accuracy, you and any other resentful separatists, stop this inane use of the word “We” and maybe refer to yourselves as the “disaffected rump”.

You lost the referendum because more of “We” rejected you than embraced you.

Deal with it please, respect the sovereign will of the Scottish people :wink:

“We” voted against the politics of resentment, grudgery and twirly flags. “We” voted for sticking with something that felt relatively safer. And to this day, we don’t hear arguments that change a thing. It’s either resentment against Westminster and England or it is some twaddle about self-determination that didn’t pass the test last time round and doesn’t convince now.

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Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns

Do I detect some personal abuse?

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Are you Joanna Cherry, if so I apologise. I know a trans debate is raging at the moment so better watch what I say.

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Originally Posted by Mibbes Aye

I don’t know where you get this “We” from. You don’t have a right to use “We” in reference to the people who live in Scotland.

In case it missed your attention a sizeable majority voted in the independence referendum to keep things as they were, “Thanks, but no thanks”.

You speak for a minority, or rather, a disaffected rump.

I suggest that in the interests of factual accuracy, you and any other resentful separatists, stop this inane use of the word “We” and maybe refer to yourselves as the “disaffected rump”.

You lost the referendum because more of “We” rejected you than embraced you.

Deal with it please, respect the sovereign will of the Scottish people :wink:

“We” voted against the politics of resentment, grudgery and twirly flags. “We” voted for sticking with something that felt relatively safer. And to this day, we don’t hear arguments that change a thing. It’s either resentment against Westminster and England or it is some twaddle about self-determination that didn’t pass the test last time round and doesn’t convince now.

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So there is no "we" in our "equal family of nations" then?

Thanks for clearing that up for me. :aok:

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Originally Posted by Fife-Hibee

So there is no "we" in our "equal family of nations" then?

Thanks for clearing that up for me. :aok:

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You will have to explain that one to me.

My point is you have no right to use the word “We” to describe the people who live in Scotland through the prism of your very specific perspective.

So, less posts talking about “We” because your views don’t reflect the majority of the population :aok:

And as I say, feel free to describe your views as part of a disaffected rump :wink:

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Originally Posted by James310

Are you Joanna Cherry, if so I apologise. I know a trans debate is raging at the moment so better watch what I say.

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I am not Joanne cherry, however your post suggests that I would struggle under the incessant attack by a right wing audience plant, which I absolutely refute. Should I report you? No because I am adult enough to put your personal attack behind me and treat you like a nasty smell.

I will never understand folk looking at the UK now and thinking, yes this is as good as it getshttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...685b7eda70.jpg

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Originally Posted by Fife-Hibee

I take it you're the toff in the crowd asking the question, surrounded by your english tory mates?

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No, I never passed the Question Time vetting process. Clearly its really strict. Must wear my red jacket next time.

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Originally Posted by Mibbes Aye

You will have to explain that one to me.

My point is you have no right to use the word “We” to describe the people who live in Scotland through the prism of your very specific perspective.

So, less posts talking about “We” because your views don’t reflect the majority of the population :aok:

And as I say, feel free to describe your views as part of a disaffected rump :wink:

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You claim...

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Originally Posted by Mibbes Aye

“We” voted against the politics of resentment, grudgery and twirly flags.

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Perhaps you should take a double take of the political landscape across the UK. Because this is exactly the type of politics Scotland is being subjected to, WITHIN the UK.

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Originally Posted by Fife-Hibee

Proportional representation would be fair, if Scotland was merely a region of a country. Scotland isn't a region of a country, it IS a country.

We have our own culture, our own values, our own flag and our own parliament.

We have everything every other country has with the exception of full democratic control over our own affairs. Something we will never have within the UK.

Not that the argument really matters however. We're just a mere region in the eyes of British Unionists.

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Question for you Fifey.. In the hypothetical independent Scotland would our hypothetical banks be owned by the rothschilds or will we become the 1st nation to operate outwith the Rothschild banking network?

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Originally Posted by makaveli1875

Question for you Fifey.. In the hypothetical independent Scotland would our hypothetical banks be owned by the rothschilds or will we become the 1st nation to operate outwith the Rothschild banking network?

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Why would an independent Scotland be "hypothetical"? Why would the banks in an independent Scotland be "hypthetical"? What a bizarre post.

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Originally Posted by Fife-Hibee

You claim...



Perhaps you should take a double take of the political landscape across the UK. Because this is exactly the type of politics Scotland is being subjected to, WITHIN the UK.

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This is exactly the same as your use of “We” FFS :greengrin

A significant proportion of Scots, and indeed SNP voters, opted for Brexit. Many millions of English voters opted for Remain.

But you you are right, resentment, grudgery and twirly flags are not the sole preserve of angry Scottish separatists, they are also fair game for angry UK citizens who want to blame big, bad somebody (in this case the EU) while entirely missing the point about the stuff that really matters, like is our health system functioning, can we school our children well and care for our elderly and can we maintain a decent, safe public infrastructure?

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Originally Posted by Fife-Hibee

Why would an independent Scotland be "hypothetical"? Why would the banks in an independent Scotland be "hypthetical"? What a bizarre post.

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In an independent Scotland would the banks be owned by the Rothschilds?

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Originally Posted by Mibbes Aye

while entirely missing the point about the stuff that really matters, like is our health system functioning, can we school our children well and care for our elderly and can we maintain a decent, safe public infrastructure.

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Looks like whatever we (UK) are doing isn't working

Maybe time to try something else?


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Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns

I am not Joanne cherry, however your post suggests that I would struggle under the incessant attack by a right wing audience plant, which I absolutely refute. Should I report you? No because I am adult enough to put your personal attack behind me and treat you like a nasty smell.

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No, it was more along the lines of like Joanna Cherry when asked about currency she had no clue, like you. That's not personal abuse, it was attacking a position you took.

Maybe your like Alyn Smith who is agnostic on what currency Scotland would have, which is another way of saying I literally have no clue so I am going to say something which means I don't have to answer any difficult questions.

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Originally Posted by Callum_62

Looks like whatever we (UK) are doing isn't working

Maybe time to try something else?


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I talked about health, education and public infrastructure.

They are within the remit of the Scottish Government.

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Originally Posted by Mibbes Aye

In an independent Scotland would the banks be owned by the Rothschilds?

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He's a master of deflection