2024-25 season non-Hibs games thread

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Originally Posted by Donegal Hibby

There’s only four points separating five teams so it could come down to the difference being just a couple of points or even a point it’s that tight ..

They have a couple of other games coming up that are probably easier which they could have used in making changes rather than one where there’s so much at stake for others . I’ve praised Liverpool in the past , they’re a great club but what they did today I genuinely thought was really poor from them .

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Why should Liverpool select their team based on what’s at stake for other teams? They’ve done their job, it’s up to city/villa/newcastle/forest to do theirs.

You’ve ignored the questions I asked, but kept on complaining that Liverpool changed the team for today’s match - would you be complaining if Celtic changed some of their players out for our match next week? Shouldn’t Aberdeen and Dundee Utd be demanding that Celtic play their strongest side when there’s so much at stake?


Edit: every team in the EPL has to register a squad. Who is best to determine which players need a rest, are out of form, carrying a niggle, etc? The club’s manager in tandem with the medical team, or fans of other clubs?

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Originally Posted by greenlex

Google image search Michael Stone. They’re not even subtle about it.

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Google image search graeme souness shotgun.

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Originally Posted by He's here!

So was the guy with the gun meant to be Souness? I did wonder about the big perm.

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Bobby Ball?

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Originally Posted by McD

Why should Liverpool select their team based on what’s at stake for other teams? They’ve done their job, it’s up to city/villa/newcastle/forest to do theirs.

You’ve ignored the questions I asked, but kept on complaining that Liverpool changed the team for today’s match - would you be complaining if Celtic changed some of their players out for our match next week? Shouldn’t Aberdeen and Dundee Utd be demanding that Celtic play their strongest side when there’s so much at stake?


Edit: every team in the EPL has to register a squad. Who is best to determine which players need a rest, are out of form, carrying a niggle, etc? The club’s manager in tandem with the medical team, or fans of other clubs?

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Sorry , wasn’t ignoring your question. I’d be delighted if Celtic change some players though it’s a totally different situation in Celtic doing it playing us as opposed to Liverpool travelling to Stamford bridge, for starters whoever Celtic change player wise will probably still be better quality than our players . I was actually annoyed Sevco done it against Aberdeen even though they actually had a reason for it …

Your right they don’t have too based on what’s at stake for other teams though if next season Liverpool are competing against Arsenal for the title and it’s close and Arsenal are playing Newcastle who decide to rotate their team in resting their best players like Isak , Bruno etc . I’m sure there would be Liverpool fans at the very least disappointed too ..

Totally understand if there’s an important cup / euro game coming up being a good reason or a player not fully fit/ carrying a knock etc though not buying into Liverpool had six players needing rest or were carry knocks today if that’s what your trying to tell me the reason was..

They simply rotated their squad in what was one of two of their hardest games out of their last four .. 3 left. Arsenal, Brighton and Crystal Palace. Arsenal and Palace games are probably more meaningless imo .

I still think it was poor from Liverpool nevertheless.

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Originally Posted by McD

Not an apology though, just enough of a hint of contrition in case it gets taken further

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Lip service due to their take over I would also guess.

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Originally Posted by Donegal Hibby

I suppose not but nevertheless they had Szoboszai .. played 33 games , MacAllister .. played 34 games and Diaz and Robertson who had played a combined 64 games , very much a weakened team today .. just thought it was poor considering there’s so much at stake for other teams . Sporting integrity and all that .

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It's not like they played a bunch of laddies yesterday, these were fairly experience players who have played many games before for them, these teams have big squads with millions of pounds worth of players sitting on the bench every week, they're entitled to make changes.

Just looked at the Liverpool starting 11 - Salah, Allison, VVD. Only 5 changes from spurs game.

Compare that to the Huns v Aberdeen game when Huns made 10 changes to starting team.

Liverpool had at least won something and had every right to rotate - Huns were just resting players hoping it would help them but in the end they lost anyway.

If your going to have a go at Liverpool and sporting integrity maybe mention the Plymouth cup loss as that starting team was a total nonsense and hence they lost.

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Originally Posted by Onceinawhile

Google image search graeme souness shotgun.

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I have only just seen it, and I thought it was Charles Bronson in Death Wish. Is it Souness?

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Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba

I have only just seen it, and I thought it was Charles Bronson in Death Wish. Is it Souness?

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Its kind of irrelevant, a bit of diversion. Its a big picture of a guy pointing a gun at the celtic fans, with a sign threatening to kill them.

The cowardly response of our journalists this morning should be a national disgrace.

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Originally Posted by hibsbollah

Its kind of irrelevant, a bit of diversion. Its a big picture of a guy pointing a gun at the celtic fans, with a sign threatening to kill them.

The cowardly response of our journalists this morning should be a national disgrace.

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I think many in the media fear the consequences of speaking up, with threats and abuse. You know it’s bad when Rangers makes a timid attempt at expressing concern. The club usually panders to the nutters.

Celtic boss Brendan Rodgers plans to rest players, including defender Cameron Carter-Vickers, for the next couple of matches in a bid to clear up knocks before the Scottish Cup final, while goalkeeper Kasper Schmeichel is working towards being fit for the showdown with Aberdeen at Hampden.

Is this poor from Celtic?

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Originally Posted by Tambo

Celtic boss Brendan Rodgers plans to rest players, including defender Cameron Carter-Vickers, for the next couple of matches in a bid to clear up knocks before the Scottish Cup final, while goalkeeper Kasper Schmeichel is working towards being fit for the showdown with Aberdeen at Hampden.

Is this poor from Celtic?

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I wouldn’t have said so with a cup final on the horizon , no.

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Originally Posted by Donegal Hibby

I wouldn’t have said so with a cup final on the horizon , no.

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But it could impact league positions for the rest, was this not your point regarding Liverpool?

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Originally Posted by Tambo

Celtic boss Brendan Rodgers plans to rest players, including defender Cameron Carter-Vickers, for the next couple of matches in a bid to clear up knocks before the Scottish Cup final, while goalkeeper Kasper Schmeichel is working towards being fit for the showdown with Aberdeen at Hampden.

Is this poor from Celtic?

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Nah they can do what they want. Give us a wee bit of a better chance next weekend but also helps Aberdeen out for their game, they’ve obviously got the added bonus of being at Pittodrie too.

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Originally Posted by Allant1981

But it could impact league positions for the rest, was this not your point regarding Liverpool?

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I think it’s understandable if a team has an important game coming up like a cup final , important euro game . Celtic situation and Liverpools are entirely different for a few reasons IMO

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Originally Posted by hibsbollah

Its kind of irrelevant, a bit of diversion. Its a big picture of a guy pointing a gun at the celtic fans, with a sign threatening to kill them.

The cowardly response of our journalists this morning should be a national disgrace.

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A 'minority' according to Bill Leckie.

There's the problem right there.

They can't admit the truth.

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Originally Posted by Donegal Hibby

I think it’s understandable if a team has an important game coming up like a cup final , important euro game . Celtic situation and Liverpools are entirely different for a few reasons IMO

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So if we had just won the league and the manager decided to give some young guys first team experience you would be against that because of how it might impact other teams, very strange take for a fan of a club

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Originally Posted by Tambo

Celtic boss Brendan Rodgers plans to rest players, including defender Cameron Carter-Vickers, for the next couple of matches in a bid to clear up knocks before the Scottish Cup final, while goalkeeper Kasper Schmeichel is working towards being fit for the showdown with Aberdeen at Hampden.

Is this poor from Celtic?

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Could backfire on him. Aberdeen will go in to the Cup Final with every player at peak match fitness after playing a run of games where every one counts. The rested Celtic players will already be halfway towards slipping in to close season mode. Rodgers is as arrogant as they get, this looks like another example of it to me.

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Originally Posted by Chorley Hibee

A 'minority' according to Bill Leckie.

There's the problem right there.

They can't admit the truth.

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And plenty in the media will be Rangers fans, same with Celtic. Their default position is to downplay the problem. If it was any other set of fans, they would all pile on to express their disgust.

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Originally Posted by Allant1981

So if we had just won the league and the manager decided to give some young guys first team experience you would be against that because of how it might impact other teams, very strange take for a fan of a club

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I think we are going into the realms of fantasy here , Hibs won’t and never will win the league as long as the OF are in it , neither will any other non-OF club for that matter .

Difference between Celtic rotating there first team is they still have probably better players coming in than the rest of us . Hell , most of the players on their bench would walk in to other clubs and be first team players…

Celtic rotating their team and going to tannadice isn’t the same as Liverpool doing it and going to Stamford bridge who were a team they just only narrowly beat at Anfield in the previous meeting 2-1…

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Originally Posted by Allant1981

But it could impact league positions for the rest, was this not your point regarding Liverpool?

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I was just throwing some fuel on the fire from yesterday's debate, my bad.

Anyway I don't mind them resting players as it might give us a better chance of the 3 points.

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Originally Posted by Coco Bryce

Remember the days when Man U where a big club.

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Still the biggest club in England by a stretch, Top 5 in the world if your going off global fanbases and trophies won.

Will have won more trophies than Arteta's "High flying arsenal"

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Originally Posted by marinello59

Could backfire on him. Aberdeen will go in to the Cup Final with every player at peak match fitness after playing a run of games where every one counts. The rested Celtic players will already be halfway towards slipping in to close season mode. Rodgers is as arrogant as they get, this looks like another example of it to me.

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He might be arrogant but he's shown, domestically atleast, he knows what it takes to win trophies probably more than every manager that's ever managed here.

I wouldn't worry about Celtic and the cup final, they'll be bang up for that.

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Originally Posted by Thatdayinmay16

Still the biggest club in England by a stretch, Top 5 in the world if your going off global fanbases and trophies won.

Will have won more trophies than Arteta's "High flying arsenal"

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If it's Trophies won then surely Liverpool are the biggest club in England?

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Originally Posted by Since90+2

If it's Trophies won then surely Liverpool are the biggest club in England?

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Most successful club goes to Liverpool, however 2 league titles in 35 years doesn't spring "Big club" to me.

United on 68 to Liverpool's 70. The biggest club in England is still comfortably United.

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Originally Posted by Thatdayinmay16

Most successful club goes to Liverpool, however 2 league titles in 35 years doesn't spring "Big club" to me.

United on 68 to Liverpool's 70. The biggest club in England is still comfortably United.

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They've also won double the number of European Cups than Man Utd.

I think there's an arguement for either to be the biggest, but when one club has won more trophies overall and has double the number of the biggest trophy in European football, I think it's hard to suggest Man Utd are "by a stretch" the biggest club.

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Originally Posted by Since90+2

They've also won double the number of European Cups than Man Utd.

I think there's an arguement for either to be the biggest, but when one club has won more trophies overall and has double the number of the biggest trophy in European football, I think it's hard to suggest Man Utd are "by a stretch" the biggest club.

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I agree my "stretch" comment was probably a stretch from myself, but I'd still say United are the biggest, in terms of global fanbases and the pull they have to bring in players even with the atrocious form for the last 10 years is what separates them from the rest.

Having one of the most iconic stadiums in world football helps as well.

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Originally Posted by Thatdayinmay16

Most successful club goes to Liverpool, however 2 league titles in 35 years doesn't spring "Big club" to me.

United on 68 to Liverpool's 70. The biggest club in England is still comfortably United.

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Are we forgetting the other trophies in that time ?

Champions League x2
Europa League / Uefa Cup x1
UEFA Super cup x3
FIFA club World Cup x1
FA Cup x4
League cup x6

Not a Liverpool fan but as it stands big clubs aren’t 15th in the league - Europa league final is massive for Utd (and Spurs / Ange) future. Whoever loses it will probably lose their job sooner rather than later.

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Originally Posted by Thatdayinmay16

I agree my "stretch" comment was probably a stretch from myself, but I'd still say United are the biggest, in terms of global fanbases and the pull they have to bring in players even with the atrocious form for the last 10 years is what separates them from the rest.

Having one of the most iconic stadiums in world football helps as well.

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You don't think Anfield is iconic?

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Originally Posted by GreenCastle

Are we forgetting the other trophies in that time ?

Champions League x2
Europa League / Uefa Cup x1
UEFA Super cup x3
FIFA club World Cup x1
FA Cup x4
League cup x6

Not a Liverpool fan but as it stands big clubs aren’t 15th in the league - Europa league final is massive for Utd (and Spurs / Ange) future. Whoever loses it will probably lose their job sooner rather than later.

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Super Cup & Club World Cup? Come on now, you'd be better counting community shields. Glorified Friendlies at best let's be honest.

You don't count League positions for the size and scale of a club though do you? City have won 4 out of the last 5 league championships and struggle to fill the Etihad every week?

Forrest and Villa have struggled for years until recently but there still big clubs? It's the same with Rangers, struggled in recent years for silverware but still a big club if you count trophies won, global fanbase and the stadium.