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19-04-2021, 10:22 AM
jacomo

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Originally Posted by Billy Whizz

I’m sure I read somewhere on thread, someone said this won’t affect Hibs
If this goes ahead, what would happen to the existing European competitions?
Surely they won’t run with all 3?

Of course it will affect Hibs. This new league will see Edinburgh as a consumer market just like other marketing ‘territories’.

If you want your kids or grand kids to grow up Real Madrid fans, bash on. If you want Hibs to still have a hope of drawing a significant local fanbase, we need to resist.
19-04-2021, 10:23 AM
SHODAN

Hope the PL grow some balls and expel all six clubs from the top division. Same with La Liga and Serie A, though unlikely as especially in the former Madrid/Barca basically run the league.
19-04-2021, 10:33 AM
Andy74

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Originally Posted by jacomo

Of course it will affect Hibs. This new league will see Edinburgh as a consumer market just like other marketing ‘territories’.

If you want your kids or grand kids to grow up Real Madrid fans, bash on. If you want Hibs to still have a hope of drawing a significant local fanbase, we need to resist.

Don’t see that at all.

Real Madrid are already pretty much ever present in the Champions League. I’m not sure why replacing that competition with a closed shop one would see them taking the place of local clubs in the minds of kids?
19-04-2021, 10:37 AM
Since90+2

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Originally Posted by Diclonius

Hope the PL grow some balls and expel all six clubs from the top division. Same with La Liga and Serie A, though unlikely as especially in the former Madrid/Barca basically run the league.

Let's be honest, that's never going to happen in a million years. The clubs hold the power and they know it.
19-04-2021, 10:38 AM
Lendo

Boris Johnson now saying the government will intervene to stop it. Utter nonsense.

I’m pretty sure FIFA take a dim view of State involvement in footballing matters. It would make me chuckle if Westminster inadvertently got England banned from the World Cup though.
19-04-2021, 10:42 AM
Hibernia&Alba

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Originally Posted by Lendo

Boris Johnson now saying the government will intervene to stop it. Utter nonsense.

I’m pretty sure FIFA take a dim view of State involvement in footballing matters. It would make me chuckle if Westminster inadvertently got England banned from the World Cup though.

He doesn't want to be in the European Union but wants to control UEFA now.
19-04-2021, 10:44 AM
Billy Whizz

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Originally Posted by Andy74

Don’t see that at all.

Real Madrid are already pretty much ever present in the Champions League. I’m not sure why replacing that competition with a closed shop one would see them taking the place of local clubs in the minds of kids?

Yeah but will they still run with 3 tournaments, which could hit Hibs
19-04-2021, 10:45 AM
Phil MaGlass

Might be a good thing for Scotland, the sellik and huns might be invited to a new english league set up, since the TV contracts in england finish next year and they may well be invited to spice it up.
19-04-2021, 10:48 AM
SHODAN

Is it just me or would a PL and UCL with the Big Six expelled actually be interesting for once? Anything could happen. I'd watch the **** out of that.
19-04-2021, 10:50 AM
007

When/if the big 6 are expelled, the remaining 14 EPL teams will now be debating the merits of a 14 team league, should they split after 3 rounds of matches? Top 6 and bottom 8 or vice versa, meaningless matches etc.
19-04-2021, 10:52 AM
Lendo

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Originally Posted by Diclonius

Is it just me or would a PL and UCL with the Big Six expelled actually be interesting for once? Anything could happen. I'd watch the **** out of that.

I would go out of my way to watch a CL with all of the bigger clubs telt to GTF
19-04-2021, 10:53 AM
McSwanky

Just another step away from a level playing field. Most people I know have stopped watching the Champions League these days as there's no great variety in the competition. Elite football is already a long way down the road to a closed shop already, and like someone said earlier, it looks like it's slowly eating itself.
19-04-2021, 10:55 AM
Dan Sarf

A Super League is a tremendous idea. I'm all in favour. Everyone cancels their BT contracts. The "super" teams, having spent money they won't get, go bust and tumble down through the leagues. A level playing field created for the real teams. What's not to like?
19-04-2021, 10:58 AM
weecounty hibby

Haven't watched the CL in years and this utter bull**** is even less appealing. No doubt it will appeal to the African, Far Eastern and US "fans" but not for me. Sadly that seems to where the money can be made though. Sad day for the once working class sport
19-04-2021, 10:59 AM
Waxy

Let them go. Chuck them out the leagues. They’ve lost the reality of what a football fans wants and they’ll all go back cap in hand to their league in a few years time.
19-04-2021, 11:13 AM
I'm Spartacus

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Originally Posted by green day

Their intention is to run this concurrently with continuing to compete in the domestic leagues which gives an indication of the end game.

i.e. some fudge with UEFA to adjust the "Champions League" in order to alter the entry criteria / prize money to ensure the richest clubs remain rich*

Whatever the outcome, if it does not continue to be based notionally on qualification, the top European prize will be devalued even more.

*Should be pointed out that these clubs are not actually rich - most, if not all of them are in deep financial trouble - Barcelona are $1bn in debt. They are a bit like our banks in the financial crisis - deemed too big to fail.

With Barcas debt is this just a sham to extract money and keep a selected group of clubs alive?
19-04-2021, 11:14 AM
Hibernia&Alba

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Originally Posted by Waxy

Let them go. Chuck them out the leagues. They’ve lost the reality of what a football fans wants and they’ll all go back cap in hand to their league in a few years time.

I'm sure there was something in the UEFA statement yesterday about any club returning to its own domestic league after expulsion (assuming that actually happened) would have to start in the fifth tier.
19-04-2021, 11:15 AM
Yorkshire HFC

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Originally Posted by Lendo

I would go out of my way to watch a CL with all of the bigger clubs telt to GTF

Hopefully we can get back to:

- European Cup - for league winners only
- Cup Winners Cup - for Cup winners only
- UEFA Cup
19-04-2021, 11:16 AM
BILLYHIBS

Greed is good

Lunch is for wimps!

:greengrin
19-04-2021, 11:17 AM
Hibernia&Alba

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Originally Posted by BILLYHIBS

Greed is good

Lunch is for wimps!

:greengrin

Tory election manifesto?
19-04-2021, 11:24 AM
SaulGoodman

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Originally Posted by Lendo

What derby game was that?!

6-2
19-04-2021, 11:26 AM
BILLYHIBS

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Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba

Tory election manifesto?

Wall Street 😃
19-04-2021, 11:31 AM
Scouse Hibee

Liverpool fan groups already voicing their disapproval and removing all of their banners and flags from Anfield
19-04-2021, 11:36 AM
007

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Originally Posted by Scouse Hibee

Liverpool fan groups already voicing their disapproval and removing all of their banners and flags from Anfield

Good. Are you on the same side as the fan groups?
19-04-2021, 11:40 AM
hibsbollah

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Originally Posted by McSwanky

Just another step away from a level playing field. Most people I know have stopped watching the Champions League these days as there's no great variety in the competition. Elite football is already a long way down the road to a closed shop already, and like someone said earlier, it looks like it's slowly eating itself.

I have to be honest and say I’ve really enjoyed the champions league in recent seasons, some amazing games and amazing players, and I accept the primacy of big corporate capital in the game as ‘just the way it is’.

But in recent seasons the likes of Monaco, Ajax Lyon and Atalanta have either gone to the semi finals or if not have played some great stuff and claimed some big scalps. Without the element of shocks I just can’t imagine I’d watch a super league replacement.
19-04-2021, 11:44 AM
Scouse Hibee

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Originally Posted by 007

Good. Are you on the same side as the fan groups?

Absolutely,.
19-04-2021, 11:45 AM
jacomo

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Originally Posted by Andy74

Don’t see that at all.

Real Madrid are already pretty much ever present in the Champions League. I’m not sure why replacing that competition with a closed shop one would see them taking the place of local clubs in the minds of kids?

As so often, to understand what’s going on, you need to follow the money.

This JP Morgan league isn’t being created so that these clubs maintain their existing fanbase and income level.

They want a bigger slice of the pie. That means taking money and support away from smaller clubs - us included. It’s naive to think otherwise.
19-04-2021, 11:48 AM
FilipinoHibs

Real Madrid, Barca and Juve all have massive debts. Chelsea and Man C running at a loss. The oil barons are being hit by the low price of oil. This reeks of an attempt by these clubs to grab a bigger share of pot to help their finances. Barely watch the CL now, no way will I watch this if it comes about. This is for the non European "new" fans. May be just a bargaining chip. The owners obviously completely unaware the uproar this would cause.
19-04-2021, 11:50 AM
SHODAN

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Originally Posted by FilipinoHibs

Real Madrid, Barca and Juve all have massive debts. Chelsea and Man C running at a loss. The oil barons are being hit by the low price of oil. This reeks of an attempt by these clubs to grab a bigger share of pot to help their finances. Barely watch the CL now, no way will I watch this if it comes about. This is for the non European "new" fans. May be just a bargaining chip. The owners obviously completely unaware the uproar this would cause.

Immediate explusion from their domestic leagues, and the CL, this and the following season, would possibly put some of them out of business if this league isn't due to start till 2023. They'll have to abandon the idea.
19-04-2021, 11:54 AM
007

Reports filtering through of a proposed breakaway Scottish Super League featuring Celtic, Rangers, Aberdeen, Dundee United, Hibs and Brora. 😉

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