Liverpool friendly @ Murrayfield

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Originally Posted by Silent Boatman

Nobody will be falling for anything, it’s not a gimmick just another pre season friendly on a neutral ground, there have been plenty.

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It's a training session dressed up as a match. Pretend Liverpool supporters will be all over it, paying top dollar and posting selfies all over social media thinking they are following their team whilst probably having never been near Anfield in a long time if ever.

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Originally Posted by Brooster

It's a training session dressed up as a match. Pretend Liverpool supporters will be all over it, paying top dollar and posting selfies all over social media thinking they are following their team whilst probably having never been near Anfield in a long time if ever.

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As our tie vs Newcastle will be too.

Plus I’ve seen plenty folk taking selfies at Easter Road - not sure why people think that something that would be unique to this game.

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Originally Posted by Brooster

It's a training session dressed up as a match. Pretend Liverpool supporters will be all over it, paying top dollar and posting selfies all over social media thinking they are following their team whilst probably having never been near Anfield in a long time if ever.

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Mrs Beefster is an ex-Arsenal season ticket holder, I’ve had a season at ER since the mid-90s, mini-Beefster has grown up on a diet of Hibs knocking generally between the Championship and mid-table Premiership and Scotland being utter pish.

There’s no Liverpool supporters amongst us and we don’t really use social media but I’m quite looking forward to taking them to see some of the best players in the world, playing a game where we’re not invested in the result, right on my doorstep tbh.

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Originally Posted by Since452

It's just a pitty it wasn't the best team in England playing Napoli. Now that would be worth going to see 😉

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Nor the best team in Italy. It's an insult to Edinburgh public that they're being served an Anglo-Italian League Runners Up Super Cup.

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Originally Posted by McS****y

Aye, right.

Maybe if you'd picked Salah, Van Dijk, Mane, Firmino, even Robertson, your comment might not be open to quite as much ridicule.

This is a funny one for me. When I was growing up in the 80s, if the current European champions had decided to play a game in Edinburgh, I don't think it would have been met with the derision we're seeing on here. In fact I think it would have been met with excitement. Why are people so down on this? Is it because:

1. They don't like Liverpool?
2. They don't like English teams?
3. They are angry because kids are attaching themselves to successful teams? Especially if they play attractive football? (Surely this has always happened - I have a liking for Liverpool based around growing up in the 80s - did I mention I grew up in the 80s? :greengrin)
4. They are angry, because, well, it's the Internet. And that's what we do on the Internet.

So if the price is right (on that point I have my doubts) I'll be there with at least one of the kids. Doesn't stop me, or my kids, being a Hibs fan.

As someone mentioned before, this is probably the only chance my lad will get to see Liverpool live in his childhood. He'll still be going to the Hibs games too!

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I would say it is because the overpaid and overhyped epl clubs only talk down our scottish game so rather than welcoming and pumping more money into them by pandering to their glamour half and half scarf friendly p*sh i would rather tell them to f*** off. If they want to come play in our city/country it has to also promote our game and not just theirs.

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Originally Posted by Brooster

It's a training session dressed up as a match. Pretend Liverpool supporters will be all over it, paying top dollar and posting selfies all over social media thinking they are following their team whilst probably having never been near Anfield in a long time if ever.

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Good to see one of my all-time fav tv comedy characters is alive and well.
Viva Victor Meldrew.

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Originally Posted by we are hibs

Hardly the better. Surely the more wearing hibs and hearts tops the better? Not sure why a kid wearing a old firm top is any different to them wearing a Liverpool , man u, Barca top. The same people who dig into old firm supporters from outside of Glasgow will be in their element as they buy Liverpool tops with salah on the back, fork out 50 quid a ticket and then the rest of their day out. Would many of them show the same commitment to their apparent club side? Lots wouldn't. There will be self proclaimed hibs and hearts fans who will go who are from Edinburgh yet won't get off their ***** when it's a big match involving their sides this season coming up. That's what annoys me.

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Nope.

Kids wearing old firm tops - more of them no chance of ever becoming hibees, they get used to winning/religion/ supporting some sad cause.

Kids wearing fanboy EPL/Barca tops - chance of getting back in later years, if not less old firm fans.

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Originally Posted by Brooster

It's a training session dressed up as a match. Pretend Liverpool supporters will be all over it, paying top dollar and posting selfies all over social media thinking they are following their team whilst probably having never been near Anfield in a long time if ever.

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It’s a friendly like all others, get over it.

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Originally Posted by Silent Boatman

It’s a friendly like all others, get over it.

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So it is.

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Originally Posted by Brooster

It's a training session dressed up as a match. Pretend Liverpool supporters will be all over it, paying top dollar and posting selfies all over social media thinking they are following their team whilst probably having never been near Anfield in a long time if ever.

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Agree, complete waste of time for both clubs and a needless inconvenience to the residents of the area.

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Originally Posted by Hermit Crab

Agree, complete waste of time for both clubs and a needless inconvenience to the residents of the area.

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It’s not a waste of time for the thousands who will attend and take enjoyment out of the fixture. Where’s the harm in it. We really can be a bunch of miserable ****s over nothing here sometimes. :greengrin

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Originally Posted by marinello59

It’s not a waste of time for the thousands who will attend and take enjoyment out of the fixture. Where’s the harm in it. We really can be a bunch of miserable ****s over nothing here sometimes. :greengrin

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Its our right to moan about things for the sake of it. :greengrin

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Originally Posted by marinello59

It’s not a waste of time for the thousands who will attend and take enjoyment out of the fixture. Where’s the harm in it. We really can be a bunch of miserable ****s over nothing here sometimes. :greengrin

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To me the EPL is just a tourist destination now anyway, if this game makes it a bit of a cheaper trip for some of these fans of EPL clubs then good luck to them.

I’m toying with the idea of taking my boy as it will probably be quite a good occasion. I suspect it’ll be priced at tourist football fan prices though which will probably rule me out but if it’s priced as a pre-season training match then I’ll maybe go along.

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Originally Posted by bingo70

To me the EPL is just a tourist destination now anyway, if this game makes it a bit of a cheaper trip for some of these fans of EPL clubs then good luck to them.

I’m toying with the idea of taking my boy as it will probably be quite a good occasion. I suspect it’ll be priced at tourist football fan prices though which will probably rule me out but if it’s priced as a pre-season training match then I’ll maybe go along.

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Champions league winners playing in a match against Italian giants. Suspect it will be tourist prices, probably £50+ a ticket.

If it was a similar price to the recent womans international I'd consider it. £5 a ticket might get close to a sell out.

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Originally Posted by Hermit Crab

Champions league winners playing in a match against Italian giants. Suspect it will be tourist prices, probably £50+ a ticket.

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Yeah I think you’re right.

So many tourists around then, people will pay it so good luck to them. Won’t be me paying those prices though.

Imagine it sells out at 50 quid a ticket and Liverpool chuck out a reserve side :greengrin

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Originally Posted by Hermit Crab

Agree, complete waste of time for both clubs and a needless inconvenience to the residents of the area.

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2 of the biggest clubs in Europe have deemed it not a waste of time so I'd fancy there is some thought behind it

Doubt the tickets will be cheaper than £25 each.

Expect it to be £25 to £50 easily.

I can understand why people are going to this plus missing it.

The bigger picture is the EPL is so global that it does loose that local element to it.

Many teams stadiums are full of tourists with half and half scarves taking selfies of any teams who score a goal.

Scottish Football has MANY issues but one of the positives is that it is still quite raw and stadiums are full of locals from the community etc.

I have been to games at Old Trafford and Anfield and a bit like Murrayfield for the rugby you don’t feel the same as sitting in the East Stand due to the huge stadium and the ticket prices you had to pay.

Spartans fans may say the same about going to watch Hibs or Hearts. Everyone has their own tastes and how they relate to football.

It will be a glorified friendly with players not wanting to get injured / subs at half time etc but that’s pretty common.

The best thing Hibs could do is stage a game the day before or after and try entice fans to Easter Road and Murrayfield- with a double football offering but doubt that’s any use for those wanting to make £££ / pay the bills at Murrayfield.

It will be on the telly, i still wont watch it. To be fair i don't watch Hibs friendlies much either.

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Originally Posted by Hermit Crab

Agree, complete waste of time for both clubs and a needless inconvenience to the residents of the area.

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😂

Naysayers who engage in excessive complaining and negative banter. Naysayers who consistently view the glass half empty and make one-way trips to negative town and do nothing but emphasise the worst of a situation. I respect your opinion.
As for me - I will be going to the match. Every friendly match has a gimmick element to it - most of going get that. So what if the teams will be weakened - these are two of the best teams in Europe. Looking forward to a good day out.

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Originally Posted by we are hibs

Hardly the better. Surely the more wearing hibs and hearts tops the better? Not sure why a kid wearing a old firm top is any different to them wearing a Liverpool , man u, Barca top. The same people who dig into old firm supporters from outside of Glasgow will be in their element as they buy Liverpool tops with salah on the back, fork out 50 quid a ticket and then the rest of their day out. Would many of them show the same commitment to their apparent club side? Lots wouldn't. There will be self proclaimed hibs and hearts fans who will go who are from Edinburgh yet won't get off their ***** when it's a big match involving their sides this season coming up. That's what annoys me.

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It’s completely different. A child in Edinburgh wearing an Old Firm top means they have chosen to ignore the two clubs closer to them and follow a Glasgow team. A child in Edinburgh wearing a Barca or Juve strip could still be a massive Hibs fan with full home and away kits and a season ticket. I had a Barca strip every season growing up in the 90’s from holidays in Spain, didn’t stop me also having the Hibs strip every season.

Any word yet on prices? I found a thread about their game last year in Dublin on some ticket exchange forum and going by some of the face values quoted there, I think a few people might be priced out of this. €40 seemed to be on the cheaper end of the scale.

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Originally Posted by McS****y

Aye, right.

Maybe if you'd picked Salah, Van Dijk, Mane, Firmino, even Robertson, your comment might not be open to quite as much ridicule.

This is a funny one for me. When I was growing up in the 80s, if the current European champions had decided to play a game in Edinburgh, I don't think it would have been met with the derision we're seeing on here. In fact I think it would have been met with excitement. Why are people so down on this? Is it because:

1. They don't like Liverpool?
2. They don't like English teams?
3. They are angry because kids are attaching themselves to successful teams? Especially if they play attractive football? (Surely this has always happened - I have a liking for Liverpool based around growing up in the 80s - did I mention I grew up in the 80s? :greengrin)
4. They are angry, because, well, it's the Internet. And that's what we do on the Internet.

So if the price is right (on that point I have my doubts) I'll be there with at least one of the kids. Doesn't stop me, or my kids, being a Hibs fan.

As someone mentioned before, this is probably the only chance my lad will get to see Liverpool live in his childhood. He'll still be going to the Hibs games too!

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I'm one of the anti this game advocates on here, so let me address your points:

1) I don't like Liverpool, but that wouldn't stop me going to watch their exciting brand of football, and who cant like Jurgen Klopp. In fact I've been to Anfield to watch them when Dalglish was playing.

2) I have absolutely nothing against English teams, in fact I have a soft spot for Everton and try to take in a game at Goodison whenever I visit my brother's family in Liverpool.

3) And this is where we address the real issue many of us have with this game. This isn't like back in the day when Scottish kids had an English team of choice as an add on to the Scottish club they supported, this is an era where that has been turned on its head for too many kids. We are now in an era where leagues like the EPL ( especially the EPL ) are aggressively pursuing a policy of attracting global fan bases. When it comes to their activities in Asia and north America that equates to attracting TV pay per view fans, shirt sales and football tourists … the owner of Cardiff City didn't change the teams colours to red on a whim, it was a cynical attempt to attract support in Malaysia where red is a significant cultural colour.

As I said in another post the ridiculous pre season tours EPL clubs like Man Utd, Chelsea and Liverpool undertake every season has nothing to do with pre season preparation and everything to do with promoting their clubs and the league to international TV and tourist markets. The difference between doing that in China and doing it in Scotland is that they are on our doorstep and the 'fans' they attract here have easy access to EPL grounds, especially in the north of England, and going there can be a frequent occurrence not a once in a lifetime holiday trip.

That's what this game is, a promotional exercise in an era where its already difficult for Scottish clubs to compete with the packed stadiums and glamour of the EPL which is forced down our throats on Football Focus and MOTD every Saturday. An era where far more than ever before too many Scots when they say 'WE' are talking about Liverpool, Man Utd, Newcastle Utd, Man City etc etc and not Hibs, Hearts, Motherwell, Dundee Utd etc etc. I personally know of three families, who though swearing allegiance to Hibs and Hearts, still make far more trips to the grounds of their EPL team of choice than they do Easter Rd or Tynecastle …. as I also said in another post, our group of ER season ticket holders is on the cusp of losing a long standing ST holding Hibby to Liverpool through the strenuous efforts of his mums Scottish Liverpool supporting partner.

That's why folk saying what's the problem just coz they aren't playing Hibs or Hearts are entirely missing the point. and why Liverpool and Napoli can take this game and ram it.

4) As vacuous a statement as my favourite modern brainless phrase 'haters gonna hate'

We're selling record numbers of season tickets, attendances at Easter Road (and Tynecastle) are a high as they've been in my lifetime.

Are Liverpool REALLY taking kids away from our games?

In my line of business we often talk about competition. Some folk think there is a finite amount of business out there, competition is to be feared as it takes away from your share. Others prefer there to be a buzz, for more providers to be involved, to have customers and potential new customers talking about what you do, and you all get extra business from other people's marketing.

If Hibs were playing in front of crowds of 5000 I think I'd be more concerned, but we're not. Hibs and Liverpool offer people different football supporting experiences and are in truth not remotely in competition. We have a higher profile poster on this site who is a Liverpool born scouser with Liverpool his first love. He manages to watch them from a distance, never stops supporting them but has a local team as his local team.

After this game is played, do we think there will be more young Hibs fans who never want to go back to see Hibs again because seeing the mighty Liverpool has given them a hunger for watching football of a higher standard from distance, or might there actually be a few youngsters who fall in love with the game who might be more open to being taken along to see a team on their doorstep?

I just feel that in an era where our game gets unfairly slagged rotten (mainly by ignorant Englanders), we shouldn't be going out of our way to promote their money drenched product in our country. It's already rammed down our throats constantly.

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Originally Posted by PH91

I would say it is because the overpaid and overhyped epl clubs only talk down our scottish game so rather than welcoming and pumping more money into them by pandering to their glamour half and half scarf friendly p*sh i would rather tell them to f*** off. If they want to come play in our city/country it has to also promote our game and not just theirs.

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this :agree: i'd rather pay to watch a Brechin v Montrose reserve game


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Originally Posted by overdrive

Any word yet on prices? I found a thread about their game last year in Dublin on some ticket exchange forum and going by some of the face values quoted there, I think a few people might be priced out of this. €40 seemed to be on the cheaper end of the scale.

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People will be willing to pay that minimum £40 to see a glorified bounce match between two half strength teams whose players are just looking for a little fitness and to avoid injury.

Meanwhile there will be protests if Hibs charge £15 maximum for a league cup group game.

I know which of the two I'll be at. The former is like seeing the Spice Girls in a stadium and the latter is like seeing your favourite band in a small club.

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Originally Posted by Eyrie

People will be willing to pay that minimum £40 to see a glorified bounce match between two half strength teams whose players are just looking for a little fitness and to avoid injury.

Meanwhile there will be protests if Hibs charge £15 maximum for a league cup group game.

I know which of the two I'll be at. The former is like seeing the Spice Girls in a stadium and the latter is like seeing your favourite band in a small club.

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Rightly or wrongly, one is considered to be an event - and a rare one, at that - whereas a League Cup group game against lower league opposition isn’t exactly ‘not to be missed’.