Easy change. ROMANOV to MANLOVE.Quote:
Originally Posted by poolman
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Easy change. ROMANOV to MANLOVE.Quote:
Originally Posted by poolman
Nail on the head.Quote:
Originally Posted by Purehibee_MYB
I often questioned the complete lack of any protest regarding the obvious issues at Hearts. However the simple fact is that even whilst Hearts was on it's deathbed and everyone had been able to see for some time the club was ****ed they still supported Vlad. Even now a lot of them do.
They haven't protested because as far as they are concerned they have nothing to protest against. Absolute idiots and an embarassment to football fans everywhere.
140 years of history for the sake of a couple of Scottish Cups and a humping in the Champions League qualifiers and it was worth it! Erseholes.
Heres a quote from brian jackson administrator
"clubs are always saveable, I wouldnt take it on if it wasnt saveable....that doesnt mean it will be saved" ..
A wee bit contradictory is it not?
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Originally Posted by Seveno
They seem to regard "it" as just facing a couple of years in the doldrums. Still not moving past the denial stage. Ask them again when they see just how much has been destroyed.
Not really.Quote:
Originally Posted by CRAZYHIBBY
I've only just started catching up with JKB having been on holiday for the past week. What I find surprising is how many of them are stating that this was inevitable? Correct me if I'm wrong but did the majority not tell us that they would never go into administration?
Still, 5-1 eh?
One fud on Kickback comes out with 'had it not been for Vlad we could have been like Aberdeen, or worse Hibs and spent the last few years yo yoing about in mid table winning **** all.'
Except in the time Vlad and Hearts *****ed millions for 2 trophies and a few defeats in the early rounds of European competition, Hibs put a fantastic infastructure in place, worked and continue to work to a sustainable business model all whilst winning a trophy, getting to another couple of finals and 'enjoyed' a couple of defeats in the early rounds of the Europa League.
Had a look over on kickback for the first time in a while ( I don't like to intrude on private grief)
Seems the big plus for them is that they will come out of it Debt Free !
Now, how is that going to make a difference to them. No interest to pay ...... they never paid any interest on debts in Romanov's time, they just added the interest to the debt.
Starting with a clean slate they will be able to run a managed borrowing facility. :rolleyes: Who in their right mind would ever lend that Club money without a gold-plated underwrite.
They seem to see this as a great new dawn, yet a few weeks ago the same Merricks were claiming Administration would never visit the Yams.
Rubbish.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
I'm sure a couple of them camped outside the stadium for one night in protest at something?
Thing is getting that money back could take months rather than weeks and its only weeks till the start of the season.Quote:
Originally Posted by peter douglas
I take that as him highlighting the uncertainty of such a situation- ie it could go either way but he wouldn't have taken it on if it was an absolute lost cause.Quote:
Originally Posted by CRAZYHIBBY
They went to the expence of buying a 2 man tent from millets. :agree: There was also the hat kicking incident, i'm surprised Romanov did not cave in after that. :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by StevieC
How would he know how bad things are until he gets his feet under the table? I recall the rangers last year as the admin started pealing the onion!......... :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by South Sub
My gut tells me that they are about to step on a hornets nest :wink:
Maybe some of the worst sickbaggers believe that, but it's a lie for most of them. If they really thought it was all worth it then they'd all be campaigning to do the same again. They're not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Albert of Kidd
They just can't admit it in public because of the loss of face, but you can see it in their sphincter twitching, ashen faced complexions. :wink:
If a patient was in a hospital and dying and everyone working there knew deep down the patient will pass away soon, they'd still throw in a doctor to have a look.Quote:
Originally Posted by South Sub
someone has to come in and say, aye, they are officially humped.
He wants the word "ROMANOV" covered up?Quote:
Originally Posted by poolman
What with? "GULLIBLE FOOL"?
But they owe the money to themselves, it's not real debt!Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedantic_Hibee
They're still in the denial phase.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
They have to cling onto any piece of wreckage they can find as the good ship Romanov heads for fifty fathoms..
Here here:top marksQuote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
I think it would be a slow walk to the phone in this case. They should have a DNAR on them, as "survival" will probably be so awful that death would be kinder.Quote:
Originally Posted by Craig_in_Prague
Few people would want to live like the basket case they are certain to be.
21000 posts :thumbsup:
Not really, things that are doable aren't always done.Quote:
Originally Posted by CRAZYHIBBY
If you go to the pub and drink 15 pints before a match, it's possible that you'll get into the stadium but there's a good chance that you won't.
The fact is they still don't believe it's likely to be game over, that's why they think its worth it, when/if faced with the reality that there is no way back I'm sure they would change their tunesQuote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
This was a point ive repeated a few times.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
No matter what, David Southern and the rest STOLE fans money, Robertson has now confirmed the share issue was a lie, ticket sales, bake sales and worst of all, up to and including last weekend they were selling ST's to supporters knowing full well they were going into admin this week which is absolutely shocking and surely legally wrong, this is why they continue to throw out the line 'we didnty know and all happened quickly' to avoid the obvious backlash and scrutiny from fans, they just cant seem to see their club has screwed them royaly.
I have no doubt that if this was Hibs and suppoerters had bought shares (or thought we had), bough ST's which are probably worthless we would be kicking the door down for answers or hanging them responsible from the nearest tree!!
One of the differences between Hearts' situation and the Oldco one as I understand it is that Tynecastle is security against debt to a third party. To survive with a stadium will be expensive for Hearts I imagine. More so than it was for Charles Green to buy Ibrox.Quote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
There is no part of the ground AFAIK that is "listed" in any way as Ibrox was. Also -investors (especially foreign ones) interested in alternative uses for Tynecastle are likely to be less concerned about adverse public reaction towards any potential new structures in Gorgie Road than they were about the idea of concreting over Ibrox.
IMHO that means that, for Hearts or a "new-Hearts" to come out of this with a stadium as well as a club, someone is going to have to shell out at the very least the market value of Tynecastle Stadium in any offer for the club.
The experts on here may be able to advise on this as I know there are many different ways to finance the purchase of assets but, if new club owners wanted to retain Tynecastle, it seems to me that they would have to take on significant debt to do so.
A "debt-free" club would imply a homeless club I reckon.
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Originally Posted by poolman
Fixed that for him!
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Originally Posted by poolman
Hilarious
But Stan says he has no regrets about having the tattoo done. He said: “This feels like a divorce after having been in love. I thought Romanov was the man.”
He added: “Romanov went on about bringing in world class players and managers and challenging for honours. It was rubbish. He made an a**e of us.”
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IMHO that means that, for Hearts or a "new-Hearts" to come out of this with a stadium as well as a club, someone is going to have to shell out at the very least the market value of Tynecastle Stadium in any offer for the club.
The experts on here may be able to advise on this as I know there are many different ways to finance the purchase of assets but, if new club owners wanted to retain Tynecastle, it seems to me that they would have to take on significant debt to do so.
A "debt-free" club would imply a homeless club I reckon.[/QUOTE]
That's exactly how I see it too - but I'm not an expert.
Fifty fathoms is nowhere deep enough PV. ;-)Quote:
Originally Posted by PapillonVert
The thing is, no-one under the age of about 30 will have any concept of what Hearts look like when living within their means.
Mercer starting the overspending in the 80's, Robinson cranked it up and Romanov, using everyone's money except his own, took it to the obscene level which may well see their club die.
They've been like an addict needing a bigger and bigger fix until eventually, the same thing which gives them such illicit pleasure, kills them.
Hearts must have spent circa £140m since Romanov came to town when their real turnover would have provided less than half of that. Not a single penny of that was spent securing Hearts future.
Just as an addict finds sobriety very difficult to handle, Hearts fans will be in cold turkey for years watching a team they can actually afford.
If you think Petrie gets a hard time for his prudence, wait till you see how Hearts' new owner is treated.
Third force no more.