Bang to rights.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwFIbtwW...pg&name=medium
Printable View
Bang to rights.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwFIbtwW...pg&name=medium
That's photoshopped. It would've said "welcome hame".Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
Sent from my SM-A528B using Tapatalk
Sherlock Kato.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
LemonentryQuote:
Originally Posted by grunt
Sent from my SM-A528B using Tapatalk
I’m delighted she forced The Stand in to backing down. The attempt to silence people we disagree with is just plain wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
Were they attempting to "silence" her? Or did they just not want her appearing at their own club? Are you suggesting that privately owned clubs should have no say over who appears on their stages?Quote:
Originally Posted by marinello59
Yes it's literally illegal hence the sheepish back peddle. What if a club didn't want black people, lesbians, feminists or Christians.Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
When you put it like that it makes perfect sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
What I suggest is neither here nor there. Cherry argued that she had been unlawfully discriminated against and the Stand’s legal advisers agree. They probably know a wee bit more about these things than me.Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
Sturgeon made children and young people the central plank of what her givernment wanted to achieve. We were to judge her on that.
The interview below is with Scotland's Children and Young People's Commissioner.. His job is set out in law with its primary focus to protect and promote the rights of children and young people.
Interviewer asks about Sturgeon's commitments, "...What is your verdict on that, are you saying she failed?"
Commissioner: "Absolutely"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...itics-65588466
As we all know, this is just one small part of it. Her government's record on children and young people, on health and social care, on the things that fundamentally matter, will haunt her legacy for far longer than motorhomes and Amazon wish lists.
It wasn't a leak. It was a reply by a SNP minister to a parliamentary question raised by.........an SNP MSP :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Politics in this country is in the gutter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mibbes Aye
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
I’d say Scotland is the best place in the UK for children.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mibbes Aye
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Help is available.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Here for you hon :greengrin
If there was no SNP in charge at Holyrood, Labour would be in control, taking their instruction's from down south of course.
Why do so many so called Scot's not want to have their own voice?
Seems to have changed his view somewhat since last November. Regarding the Scottish Child Payment?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mibbes Aye
"It's hugely positive ... people have described it as a lifeline."
Got his 5 mins on the tele though. Shame he looked foolish in doing so.Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
https://twitter.com/msm_monitor/stat...dxJXScFNwz8V4A
The retiring children’s commissioner just 8 weeks ago.[emoji102]
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
"We've achieved more than any of us thought that we could."Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
"I'm really proud of what we've achieved over the past 6 years."
Might have had a wee nod like Sue Gray?[emoji6]Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Oh dear, sorry guys, I can see you have been busy scouring the internet for this but.....Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
You do realise he is talking about what he and his team did, don’t you? Do you actually think he is talking about what Scottish Government did? :greengrin
He’a talking about his team’s involvement in the Independent Care Review and the likes, he even say so during your clip.
He achieved all this under a Labour Scottish govt? Wow. Impressive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mibbes Aye
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
What are you on about Ozy?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
He said his team had done a lot of good, wished they had achieved more. He also said that Sturgeon/the SNP had absolutely failed on their part.
Anyway, my rationale for mentioning him was about Sturgeon’s legacy. Obviously those high-powered jobs at the UN and the like we were hearing about on here won’t be happening just quite yet.
Will her legacy be public services - that’s what she said she wanted, but that’s where so little has been achieved, just U-turn upon U-turn. Or will her legacy be constitutional - that’s maybe what she actually wanted, but that’s where ultimately she couldn’t move the dial.
As much as I reject her ideology and have been dismayed at her approach to delivering public services, she did give a significant part of her life to working in public service. I respect that and I genuinely hope the first thing she is remembered for isn’t murky or shady financials that few folk will ever believe she knew nothing about.
Only you could take the three comments made by Adamson over the last six months and see them as being consistent. A career in politics surely beckons.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mibbes Aye
Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
Since this was made PM only, he's about the last one attempting to put the boot into all things SNP and Scottish Gov, be a bit lonely now since all the other Labour/Tory cheer leaders are not allowed on here any more.
You only want SNP supporters to discuss the SNP on here from now on?
Will probably turn into a pretty boring thread. You'd be better off just going to an SNP forum in that case no?
I thought the whole idea of these threads was to read the views from posters with different points of views. Seems totally pointless otherwise.
That's actually a very good idea. What are your views on Adamson's recent remarks about the lack of progress by the SG on addressing child poverty?Quote:
Originally Posted by WhileTheChief..
Does Scotland have the lowest child poverty in the UK?Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
​Maybe Project Fear are too tight to pay the subscription 😆Quote:
Originally Posted by J-C
Attachment 26734
https://news.stv.tv/politics/snp-fin...search-warrant
Anybody know if a two week delay is normal? I have no idea.
Looks like just another attempt to throw mud and see what sticks. Pathetic really but it might be working.Quote:
Originally Posted by marinello59
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Quite possibly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
I think Kenny MacAskill makes a better point about separating the role of Lord Advocate as an adviser to the government, from that of the Lord Advocate as head of COPFS, that's never sat too comfortably. Similarly in England, where Braverman made a mockery of the attorney-general post, although highlighting her pretty abject legal expertise in the process.
Didn’t he used to be Justice Secretary?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mibbes Aye
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Possibly. The Indy movement really is a nest of vipers these days.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
From the BBC "story":Quote:
Originally Posted by marinello59
Quote:
BBC Scotland understands that a draft search warrant was submitted by the police which the fiscal then discussed with officers before its contents were finalised.
The warrant, which is reported to have included a long list of items the police wanted to seize, was then signed by a sheriff on the same day it was finished.
I think he was, under Salmond? Maybe got moved by Sturgeon. He clearly didn't do anything about it at the time if so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Actually he was at Justice, at some point because he was involved with the whole Libyan release stuff. That was an international cause de celebre :greengrin - Nelson Mandela, Archbishop Conti, Mikey Forrester, Russian sailors et al
Common among politicians to have amazing ideas once they leave a role. Legalising drugs is the usual. Hard to find an ex justice minister, ex chief constable, ex judge etc who doesn’t now think we should legalise drugs. In the too hard basket when they were in a position to do something though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mibbes Aye
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Would the warrant mention the items Police Scotland were to search for?
Sent from my SM-A528B using Tapatalk
See my post above. Yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
They def should spread that in the media slowly over a number of weeks no matter how boring it sounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Cool. It could be like a cross between The Generation Game and Argos bingo :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
GHD straighteners, got those...Nespresso machine, yup....His and hers bath towels, ya beezer....just need the Clairol foot spa and the Binatone cordless with answering machine for 'House'!!!!!!!
Pah. Typical Labour supporter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mibbes Aye
Not a cuddly toy in sight!
Dawn Butler is told that she can't raise Rees-Mogg's explicit confession that Voter ID was designed to be Tory gerrymandering to be discussed in the chamber, but later in the same session Mhairi Black is told off by the same deputy speaker for describing the Tories as being "pished" at parties in Number 10. I wonder if the House of Commons has got its priorities right?
SNP motion to discuss the cost of living crisis in Westminster gets the full attention of everyone in the House of Commons
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwQblada...pg&name=medium
It looks like they have got less than a fifth of their own MPs there!Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
https://www.hibs.net/image/jpeg;base...KKKKAooooH/9k=.Attachment 26736Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
That was what I was thinking, a mixture of the big prize from Bullseye and the crap bits of the generation game. Didn't wee (nicky) do well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mibbes Aye
Sent from my SM-A528B using Tapatalk
Angus MacNeil had offered to host but the "nothing in this game for two in a bed" line felt a bit inappropriate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
I would pay good money to see Family Fortunes though - "...And here we have the Murrells, David, we asked 100 people what kind of thing would you buy from Amazon"?
:greengrin
https://youtu.be/7XMW6Z_Oq38Quote:
Originally Posted by Mibbes Aye
Sent from my SM-A528B using Tapatalk
Looks like their own MP's have set the tone and others have followed suit.Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
Not sure how you arrive at that conclusion.Quote:
Originally Posted by NORTHERNHIBBY
Looks like the SNP have about 9 MPs at Westminster?Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
Bloody disgraceful from all parties IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by NORTHERNHIBBY
8 more than the Tories and Labour.Quote:
Originally Posted by NORTHERNHIBBY
A caravan? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
Yes, with an inbuilt car at the front.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Sent from my SM-A528B using Tapatalk
A full attendance by all SNP candidates in response to the miserable showing from the other parties would have been PR pure gold though?Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
To be fair I think most debates in the HoC have similar attendance rates, some folk just turn up for the vote - if there is one. I think its rare to have everyone in.
https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcas...=1000613366154
Another enjoyable Holyrood Sources.
Good performance again from Yousaf at FMQ’s although it’s clear he’s not up against much. His performance in the rest of his job is still sadly lacking.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Do we have any update on Ms Surgeon's driving lessons?
There's so many possible headlines to be made from that, I can't help feel that the MSM are missing a trick.
Sources within the police....:hmmm:
https://twitter.com/msm_monitor/stat...O3obgi8Mg&s=19
A motorhomeQuote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Any news of actual criminal charges?
They're now looking into old CCTV and it looks like they've finally got Sturgeon bang to rights caught smoking in a one way street.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
I love a good euphemism as much as the next man but this is a new one for me. The mind boggles.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
It's a quote from the parody cop show "Sledge Hammer".Quote:
Originally Posted by Mibbes Aye
BBC Scotland sends journalist to Turkey to report on progress of the ferries being built there. Good use of licence payers money.
https://twitter.com/bbciainmac/statu...syxZYcSjKNkxtg
It wouldn't be a story if it hadn't been for spectacular mismanagement and dodgy procurement. And the blame for that sits squarely with SNP ministers.Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
The fact that even this far down the road, it would be cheaper to scrap the second ferry and build a new one from scratch - that's farcical. It is breathtakingly farcical.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-65719108
Could this be the start of cross border cooperation between Westminster and holyrood??
How more acknowledgement do we need to give the fact that the ferries are a complete **** up?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mibbes Aye
Just out of interest, because I don't think you're going to find a single SNP supporter suggesting that it was at all well managed.
Informal pact between the Conservatives and the SNP?Quote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
I didn’t bring ferries up, I was replying to a poster who did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jones28
Or just the UK govt imposing its will on the SG again? Depending on your outlook I guess you could see that as working together.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mibbes Aye
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
No. It’s definitely a scheme worked up by two jaded, tired administrations who have more that unites them than divides them :na na:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Only joking! The whole thing sounds like it is probably just a good intention let down by bad communication or planning, potentially on both sides. Simple and non-partisan.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
It seems that the Scottish Govt learned of this "co-operation" by reading about it on the BBC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mibbes Aye
I keep saying this but too few actually give a thought to how badly this affects the lives of our islanders. It’s easier to focus on protecting your favoured politicians and sidelining any discussion when you live in the central belt. This ongoing shambles should be dragged up at every opportunity and shoved in the faces of the incompetent politicians responsible. Maybe somebody will finally put their hands up but I doubt it. The same self serving denial of any blame as the mob at Westminster practice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jones28
We have a family funeral this week. In the past it was easy enough to book a last minute ferry and travel over for a day to attend. Not anymore, some will be staying over for a week because they can’t get booked on suitable ferries, some simply won’t be able to go. The expensive alternative of flying isn't an option either, the failing ferry service means flights are fully booked virtually every day. The saddest part of all this? It’s now the norm.
You're quite right. It's tragic that Labour didn't do anything about the ferries when they were in power.Quote:
Originally Posted by marinello59
I thought I had missed the holy ground whilst it was closed down. I have had a look over some of the threads and realise I haven’t really missed it at all :-(
It was never closed down. Where were you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Skol
That was sixteen years ago.:greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by grunt
The ferry service was OK back then, I know, I used it at least once a month. It was a younger fleet less prone to breakdown with no urgent pressure to order new vessels thanks to good forward planning. I don’t think Labour deserve any praise for that , CalMac were just getting the basics right. The food onboard wasn’t that great though. :greengrin
I am not a private member and it was locked down for about three weeksQuote:
Originally Posted by grunt
It greatly improved, sad to hear its reopened. Labour thread stayed a bit of a chore but ho hum
https://twitter.com/scotnational/sta...dxJXScFNwz8V4A
This should be withdrawal of the whip. SNP needs to be above this sort of thing.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Technically I'm not sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
It was obviously allowed within the rules before the Braverman story, otherwise it wouldn't have been paid, so on those grounds it's a bit unfair to call foul now, or even sending off!
That fines were ever allowed is a shocker. MPs are responsible for making laws. They shouldn't get a free pass when they break them.
That would be harsh to say the least.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Lorna Slater to assess whether deposit return scheme can go ahead - BBC News
You'd think Slater would just be glad she's been thrown a lifeline to get some sort of scheme off the ground after her own shambolic attempts failed dismally. It was daft not to accept in the first place that the most practical way to implement this was as part of a UK-wide initiative.
How did it fail?Quote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Where do we start with that one? Slater is lucky she is still in position.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Didn’t all three of the leadership candidates have reservations about the scheme, some more than others. She oversaw long delays, ignored genuine concerns from business leaders as she ploughed on regardless and left asking for a trade exemption far too late. There are plenty within the SNP who saw the failings.
Letting herself be politically out manouvered by Alister Jack should be the prompt Yousaf needs to drop the Green coalition entirely. I’m not so sure he will.
She hasn’t been politically out manoeuvred by Jack though. He has just imposed the power of the UK govt over the Scottish govt. The scheme has been stopped dead by the UK govt. We’ll never know if it would have failed.Quote:
Originally Posted by marinello59
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
She has been.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Rather than just refusing the trade exemption he has offered an alternative UK wide scheme that many businesses and voters will see as a sensible solution.
I’m not comfortable with Westminster stepping in over any devolved matter but this will not result in any increased support for Independence at all. I don’t like it but Jack played his political cards right here. The grievance card ain’t gonna trump his hand at all.
I saw the UK government proposal as a decent compromise, until I realised that the Welsh government are bringing in exactly the same scheme as Scotland but a year later. Has the Welsh secretary told Wales they can't include glass??Quote:
Originally Posted by marinello59
Of course it wouldn't have failed, there might have been a few adjustments needing ironed out after the launch but why shouldn't a scheme successfully implemented in other countries not work in Scotland? Is there another country in the world where around 50% of the population have zero belief in their own capabilities?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Way to go with winning people over to your cause. Repeatedly telling them they are worthless, lacking in belief etc etc etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
It's just gaslighting isn't it? "Vote for me because you are too stupid to know any better", wrapped in a saltire shroud.
You and others have been banging that drum about 'them' for ten years now, but the dial hasn't changed. Maybe 'they' aren't the stupid ones.......
It doesn't surprise me that you see it that way, but as they say "if the cap fits......".Quote:
Originally Posted by Mibbes Aye
Do I actually think that a large part of the electorate are stupid? Well in short yes, we're at the edge of a climate disaster that will bring famine, disease and wars for resources and land but they continually keep voting against any meaningful change that might slow that down. So yes, I'm quite happy to state that there's a lot of stupid people out there who would seemingly put their children's futures on the line to preserve some kind of inherited nationalist identity.
The scheme would have worked and will work I'm sure, I'm all for it. It's ridiculous to say it wasn't mismanaged to the point of shambles and delays, well before uk gov got involved.
Why did the SNP give it to the greens and that nitwit Slater. Should have let the adults do it and took their time and did it properly.
Separately the glass part of it needs a separate debate. I don't know why everything needs to be blanket with no nuance. Pubs recycle almost 100% of glass, so don't touch their system. We already recycle 76% of glass in the UK which is pretty good, not much behind many who have a drs, places with curbside is higher.
The top 3 glass recycling rates in Europe are from nations that don't have DRS. Playing it as an ecological disaster not having one is just playing politics. Humza tweeted twice not having one means 600 million glass bottles on our beaches. This is clearly stupid as 600 million is the total number of glass bottles used in Scotland, so the recycling rate would have to drop to zero
Glass or no glass is not the point now. It’s about devolution being withdrawn.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
https://www.conveniencestore.co.uk/y...679100.article
8 in 10 Scots want glass included in the DRS.
This is something that Wales is allowed to do but not Scotland? Why is this?
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Because the Scottish one is some kind of Marxist Wokerati genderless plot against British values?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Sent from my SM-A528B using Tapatalk
I’m for Indy and it doesn’t hurt when Scotland is discriminated against like this but I’d also like the country to work. So frustrating.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
My mate works for DTI (or whatever they call it these days) and has just spent the week in Belfast bugging up the advantages NI has to American businesses by being in the SM and CU. In the long run there is going to be economic costs to Scotland being treated differently from others.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
It's not about devolution, it's about the law and competence. If Edinburgh Council said were going to increase the minimum wage of everyone working in Edinburgh, scot gov would say you know what powers you have and that isn't one of them. Andy wightman ex Green MSP is all for the policy and competence
@andywightman
·
Serious question. ScotGov has known for years that an internal market exemption was needed. Why then did it proceed (with substantial cost for businesses) without this exemption in place? Should Gov not have secured exemption first before third parties incurred these costs?