would need to be a different venue, the balnoral is Hibs territory, they could maybe make the statements outside the council HQ, they seem to like each otherQuote:
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would need to be a different venue, the balnoral is Hibs territory, they could maybe make the statements outside the council HQ, they seem to like each otherQuote:
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One strives for positivity and hope.Quote:
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Indeed. A great tragedy.Quote:
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Will this hand-clapping for the NHS staff tonight at 8pm be overshadowed by, or seen by our pink chums as jealous copying of their solo hand-clapping on their piazza thing? :greengrin
I think the idea only came about because of their solo pizza Clapper.Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnMcM
Everyone is always following their examples don't you know.
Having spent many seasons playing Sunday League, are they nowt. There are an expanse of long established and well run clubs operating below the three National League levels with history, decent fan bases and money behind them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir David Gray
Our own Tommy Block came straight out of the Isthmian League and Corinthian Casuals have a history of England internationalists and FA Cup tussles.
The Northern Premier League for example has recently played hosts to clubs formerly from further up the pyramid like Barrow and Chester and clubs who have made it back up to the EFL (or up there for a first time) like Fleetwood, Accrington Stanley, Macclesfield Town and Burton Albion. Past 25 years has seen Forest Green Rovers and Newport County get out of the Southern League and up to the EFL in time.
Never comfortable when the old ‘pub league / Sunday league’ stuff gets trotted out.
Like I said above, I stand corrected.Quote:
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Have you? Aw, bugger.Quote:
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I work for a Bank that has been involved with most of Scotland's football clubs and there is zero appetite to lend to professional sports clubs regardless of their solvency history.Quote:
Originally Posted by steviehibsleith
My mates the Casuals manager (and my other mates the keeper!) Very decent standard and decent support. And amateur as well.Quote:
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Quite right too because you can’t collect on the securities they offer and the minute they default clubs mount a publicity campaign against the bank.Quote:
Originally Posted by tanfield
BoS also worked with Murray to disadvantage other clubs while giving favourable treatment to old Rangers. It all came out when Lloyd’s took they pulled right back from Scottish football altogether. Celtic had moved away from BoS when Fergus McCann took over because he realised pretty quickly they were working to Rangers advantage. At the time the whole premier league were with BoS.
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Hearts won WWI and now they’ve saved the NHS.
I think we just have to accept they are superior on every way.
To be fair, I think when Lloyds came in and looked at the Bank's books their first question would have been WTF?!?Quote:
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Yes and the atmosphere at the time was supportive of cutting loose junk assets or bad loans.
It’s true that banks want well out of football these days. Even the EPL borrows from other forms of finance.
Danny the keeper did, he's on the documentary. Was in 2015 though I think, they went to Hungary to play an amateur tournament last summer.Quote:
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"please use our website and our social media channels as your source for accurate information" :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by matty_f
Been out of the loop most of today attending to things that matter a great deal more in these extraordinary times, but it's perversely reassuring in some ways to see that, no matter what the world is hit with, some things remain guaranteed - like an interminable Ann Budge statement every time a few big bad journalists dare to question her (mis)management of Hearts. They've started to out-Sevco Sevco when it comes to this sort of guff.
How about just getting the head down like the vast majority of clubs - and indeed the vast majority of businesses across the nation - who are doing their best to navigate their way through unprecedented times and not bleating their woes to anyone who will listen? Aside from her lapdogs at the Evening News (and probably the likes of Tom English), who have happily bought into her attempt to spin this as Hearts leading the football world when it comes to business acumen, she's been called out by those who feel there are justifiable criticisms to be made and she can't handle it.
I'd all but lost interest in what eventually happens to this football season and was coming round to the view that it should simply be voided. But reading that self-congratulatory claptrap makes me really hope it gets ended as things stand and the yams are relegated.
👏 confirm placings, pay 💰 clubs for finishing positions, then we can start slowly shaping our squad for next season.Quote:
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Well said. The world is concerned with much more serious matters than some poxy maroon football club who feel so affronted at their own insignificance.
Pathetic bleating from a woman who got lucky in the lottery of life and should be counting her blessings.
I think all new signings will come very late in the day this year for all clubs. Nobody will want to add to their wage bill until they are absolutely sure games are going to start again.Quote:
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But they can decide whether they want to make Liam signings permanent or send them back. (Docherty/Kamberi/McNulty/Omeonga)Quote:
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Gotta be honest, when I read that line, an image of Budge - pacing backwards and forwards in her office as she dictated this clap-trap to her secretary - sprang to mind -
"Right, I know those Hibee *******s will also read this so I need a line that they'll notice, one that'll definitely have them wiping their morning coffee/tea off their monitors ....... got it, this one will hit them square in the plums !!"
I could be wrong but I genuinely don't think they've played 'within-their-means' once since 1981-82 - not one single season !
That statement is sort of true though. It just so happens that their "means" included £10m from FoH, £5m from Budge, at least £9m from anonymous donor, an extra £2m from an anonymous person for sponsorship and then probably another £4-5m for the current season where they spent the season ticket money in advance and needed further bail out from the donor (or Budge).Quote:
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Add that lot up and it comes to c£30m.
Should have kept a million back for a rainy day. Clowns.
They will be saved by league reconstruction......
I suspect we wont be signing anyone, or offering new contracts, until we are sure what is going to happen.Quote:
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The fact that a few of our higher earners are loans will be a big help at the moment i would imagine.
I don’t think so, I think there is very little appetite from the majority of clubs or the TV companies for league reconstruction.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil MaGlass
I thought it was telling that, in yesterday's statement, Budge admitted for the first time that there was a doubt as to what league they'll be playing in next season.
I agree. Ron’s statement yesterday did not indicate we would look charitably on any proposal that would cut our money available next season. Going to a 14 team league would means a further loss of income on top of the already painful cuts we have suffered. I doubt many clubs will be up for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shore Hibs
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League reconstruction needs to be voted in by 11 of the 12 clubs.Quote:
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Not a chance in hell most clubs will vote for less games against the old firm. They rely too heavily in that money.
I thought it was 75% of all 42 clubs? The old 11 of 12 was an old SPL rule.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heckys Wheel
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So it's null and void or as is. As I said before the TV companies will be flexible as these are extraordinary times but it looks likely to as is with sweeteners to Hertz and partick. It's the only common sense solution as most clubs have accepted there will be no football till the end of June and compromising next season just adds to the financial problem. Just need the govt to declare no football till end of may then we can all start planning next season. Maybe get a couple of glamour friendlies to boost coffers but bar that this season is gone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heckys Wheel
She knows the odds it will be the spl are lengthening by the day. The empty threat of legal action when in fact she would be sueing herself as she has to accept the sfa judgements shows she realises she's ****ed up big time. What's the bet once they are relegated she will quietly disappear from view and let others sort the carnage. What a club. I do actually feel for loads of the jambos as a lot are decent folk who have been lied,misled and had their foh contributions totally wasted. I know we all love to lambast them but the money she has wasted is eyewatering. At least Vlad won acouple of trophies but to spend £30m and face relegation is some gigantic feat of incompetence and hubris. It always seems to be the way with them. As we saw with us being in the championship for three years life will go on if they are down there for a couple of years. They are a side I'll equipped to deal with pressure and could well struggle to come straight back up and even if they did they are financially goosed so it's bleak times for them. **** happens I'm afraid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peevemor
The spl would have to agree to reconstruct before all 42 clubs vote as far as I understand it. The bigot bros constantly blocked it and I'm sure Aberdeen won't be keen on sharing either.Quote:
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The glamour friendlies is actually not a bad shout, as id imagine foreign travel will be off for a while, so big english clubs might welcome that?Quote:
Originally Posted by mjhibby
Sure the vote is weighted by division. Premiership needs 11/12,Championship something like 9/12. If it clears these hurdles then a vote over all clubs.Quote:
Originally Posted by mjhibby
Of course the spfl board could make a decision with a simple majority. There are 5 on the board which includes someone from sevco.
To repeat what I said earlier on this thread, they spent £4.6m of this year's income (that's around a third of their annual turnover and seven eighths of the season ticket money they had collected) before 30th June last year. Essentially robbing Peter to pay Paul, which is the opposite of living within their means.Quote:
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You’d think they would be raising a bit more of a fuss.
As it is, there’s not much to be done if Jambos themselves don’t care that their club is a total shambles.
She is owed too much money to slip out quietly. £2.4 million for her shares, a £1.9 million loan and her brothers money for the work on the stadium. Funny how the mysterious donator(s) has disappeared again. You needed them when in admin and now. Share transfer delayed till the end of the year. Budge may end up using that money to keep Hearts afloat with FOH agreement of course.Quote:
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I don’t think the board can make a reconstruction decision without going to the members?Quote:
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Has she not been paid back her £2.4m?Quote:
Originally Posted by FilipinoHibs
But at least she has won the championship and the admin cup
I think it’s 11 of 12 OR a percentage of all clubs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
It was Daryl Broadfoot on Sportsound saying this last week.
Either way, he was pretty sure it was a percentage that was highly unlikely
Actually, I can see right through this charade. This is not about shedding deadwood to sign a new squad, she is needing money to replace the £1m pitch after destroying it last year with the vanity project festival concert.
It seems that the film about Hearts is being shown at 10pm on C4 tonight.
It is called ‘Duncansville’ and described in the Scotsman as an animated comedy.
If it’s league reconstruction they will have to look at some set up that includes 4 OF games. There is no way they will do any sort of reconstruction that involves less OF games.
I know there is a split just now so if one of them was utterly woeful it may happen however the chances are slim.
The TV companies would want that guarantee!
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The story going round with 3 leagues of 14 with an 8-6 split allows for a 4 game OF scenario.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aldo
They will definitely do something to protect that fixture. This would also however mean that those living outwith their means along the way will be saved.Quote:
Originally Posted by brog
Just saw disgraceful scenes on dalry road ...3 guys in hearts tops playing football with a hedgehog.
I was going to call the police but the hedgehog was winning 3.0
Cormack at Aberdeen having a veiled pop at budge? He talks of not panicking, no knee jerk reactions.. see it's not just the sun and their pundits Budge!
They do care. I hear decent jambos berating levein,mcphee and the overspend on the stand. They are now calling budges judgement into question but don't dare say it in kickback or they face the backlash. Believe me plenty of then are raging but are keeping stum.....For now.Quote:
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Well fair play to them.
Maybe they can become more dominant voices in the months ahead?
Too late for Tynecastle of course - a lack of oversight and critical thinking has alllowed Budge to splurge huge amounts of money on a catastrophically bad rebuilding project, that will hobble their club for decades.
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Stealing this...
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Sure but the hedgehog needs to be careful... one of the Jambos will try to take it home and tell their ma it’s their new girlfriend.
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A clear indication of how organised / well ran a club is behind the scenes will be the speed and message put out launching next (whenever that may be) seasons tickets.
I cant afford to buy one now, but if I could I certainly would.
Launching now is clearly a shout for help from the clubs releasing them.
The jumbos are goosed and haven even released theirs yet.
Well that’s when it starts to get interesting. I wonder how much of next years season ticket money they will spend this season to keep them afloat with no safety net to catch them post 30 June.Quote:
Originally Posted by Not In The Know
Mentioned on another thread but....,
Can anyone confirm if they have paid the rent up to date on their training facility?
Just curious about this. No motive whatsoever.....,but since HW were an (unpaid) creditor last time the balloon went up surely there is a system to avoid this happening again?
I don’t care if there are decent jumbos, every one of them took great delight in 1-5 and us staying down for three yearsQuote:
Originally Posted by mjhibby
Got in from work last night and had a few beers, going on 8pm I was a bit worse for wear and started singing "If you hate the ****ing Jam Tarts clap your hands". I didn't realise just how many people despise them.
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HW wouldn’t have lost money from it (they would have been given the money back from sports Scotland or similar) so doubt they care really.Quote:
Originally Posted by HibbyDave
Ah that’s ok then. Wonder why we don’t sell East Mains, train at HW and bump them for the cost too. win winQuote:
Originally Posted by 90+2
Just kidding
I saw even Gary MacKay was calling her out in the News the other night.
Meanwhile BBC Scotland is showing reruns of Scottish Cup Finals starting tonight.Guess what the first one is.
Yup - and the best cheesy chips in the land.Quote:
Originally Posted by Haymaker
Seen them a couple of times this season and they hosted a magnificent Brazillian festival last summer. Great club.
What?Quote:
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Celtic launched there's a number of weeks agoQuote:
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One Five.Quote:
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BBC Glorifying sporting cheating sure the Lithuanian pensioners are enjoying it as well 😔😔😔😔Quote:
Originally Posted by ancient hibee
Might give it a watch. The most tainted cup win in world football history. How both clubs fortunes have changed since that day is staggering
Ha ha. There will be much 1-5ing tonight because they think we give a flying one. 2016 came along and removed any semblance of pain. Make no mistake, it’s the hearts fans that are squirming now, desperately clinging on to a comfort blanket that is full of holes but hurting to the core that the last team in Edinburgh to win either of the National cup trophies lies in the east.Quote:
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Will certainly comfort them in the next couple of seasons in the championship no doubt, but why no coverage of the 'EXUBERANT' Scottish cup final game against The The's? As strange as it is predictable! :wink::agree::thumbsup::greengrinQuote:
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The Comfort Blanket Cup.
Won by cheats.
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The Comfort Blanket Cup.
Won by cheats.
Cut the top league to 10 teams. After 3 rounds Top 6 play each other twice total of 37 games. Bottom4 and top 2 of Champ play off home and away same number and top 4 in head to heads go up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aldo
After one season adopt the 12/12 (8/8/8) set up proposed a few years ago and make L1 and L2 top of a regional pyramid.
Just relegate Hearts now, promote Dundee Utd and then do away with promotion and relegation. Let Scotland’s top 12 concentrate on taking the game forward without the threat of relegation.Quote:
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For all that, they weren't even that good a team and nor was it an especially great performance. We were simply a shambles, though not helped by an inept ref.Quote:
Originally Posted by jacomo
I note the next game up is the Motherwell v United 91 final. Now that was a bona fide classic cup final.
A great tradition. Met their archivist a few times. Unfortunately they don't seem to have much on their early games. Their facilities aren't much but a great atmosphereQuote:
Originally Posted by Liberal Hibby
I thought the great Medals was maybe changing his tune. Sadly not.Quote:
Originally Posted by ancient hibee
He said Budge had failed in her oversight of the football dept - and went on to list some of the horror stories of the past few years. He then spoiled it all by saying she had done magnificently for the club off the park. Really Garry? Think about it.
Aye, the cheesy chips are class. Beer while you watch the game as well. Love going up there when I am back.Quote:
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Said that all along. Amazing we even got to that final and they we’re lucky also. Two pretty bad teams but we were shocking.Funny thing was after the final is when they decided it was actually the “ultimate see whos the bestest in Edinburgh forever” cup which is a load of cheatin bollacks.Quote:
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I like that kind of forward thinking. You may just have something with that suggestion.Quote:
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Tam McManus is having a field day on Twitter right now.
https://twitter.com/the_tman10/statu...977781760?s=21
Yeah but the powers that be could never be that sensible!Quote:
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You'd be as well to move directly to the 12/12 (8/8/8) model for next season with Dundee United up and Hearts down.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibbyfraelibby
Although I'm a fan of that structure, I don't want it (or any other change) rushed through without being properly considered first. So no restructuring for season 20/21.
Just sat and it watched doesn't bother me after 2016🇳🇬Quote:
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GGTTH.
My plan after the Hearts final was to play golf but because of the result I, well errrrr, played golf anyway. Moved on immediately. Now after the SDG final was an altogether different thing and I was seriously bladdered........:greengrin :drunk::party::drunk:Quote:
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When’s the 1991 cup final on mate?Quote:
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https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/spo...mpression=true
Tynecastle not a happy camp it seems. Could be a very expensive route if the PFA take them to court and win.
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What an actual disgrace that club are. If I was any of the players that are being clearly threatened I would be terminating my contact with them then taking them to a tribunal in the future for hefty compensation.Quote:
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She can't have any hope of the season continuing if she is directly threatening to not pay the players needed to drag them out of the relegation spot.
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Hearts really have no class whatsoever.
It's about time our esteemed Media were calling them out for what they truly are.
Enjoy your tainted 5-1 Final guys, plenty of Lithuanian Pensioners and charities gave a lot of money to pay for it.
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From PFA Scotland.
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She really is a horrible old cow.Quote:
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She is clearly playing a game here! Cheapest way to offload ***** is the route she has chosen.
[QUOTE=Green Blood;6128861]She is clearly playing a game here! Cheapest way to offload ***** is the route she has chosen.[/
This bit bugged me....
‘And now stars at other clubs are terrified their bosses will follow suit.’
Again making out she is ahead of the game?!
I really dont know any of the finance facts at tynecastle but their seems to be an urgency to indicate they do not have money to pay April salaries .
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It certainly appears that way. They appear to be panicking big time.Quote:
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Surely the backroom staff don't have such a clause in their contracts if it is a standard SPFL contract yet she's trying to force them to take the pay cut too.Quote:
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What's the deal with them having to say to their bank to return any payments they receive from Hearts? Just don't send any money to the player after the cut off date, or are they expecting to be incompetent and make payments they don't intend to?
Hope big Ron and Leeann haven't been on the phone to Budge the last week on tips on how to run a football club.
They are so ****ing toytown it is unbelievable. Big and famous? Famous for being a total laughing stock, famous for being a disgrace if an employer, famous for shafting charities, famous for shafting HMRC, famous for shafting many businesses. Big if you are compared to pub league teams but even some of them are better run than hearts. There have been clubs like Berwick and Nairn who have promised to pay their way and help others and this lot are threatening to suspend salaries, aye big club right enough. Hope relegation and going tits up again really hurts