Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

A huge well done to the clubs in the SFL who were put in a very difficult position thanks to the shameless threats and intimidation from the SFA and the SPL.

The right and proper decision has been made today. This is NOT a punishment for Rangers, rather it is a direct consequence of the old club going out of existence and a new club replacing it and applying to replace it in the bottom tier of the SFL. I don't understand why people can't, or won't, comprehend this very basic fact and realise that it isn't a punishment for a brand new club to be placed in the bottom division of the league structure.

I note that there is now talk of the SPL2 idea being pushed as a result of this decision and, for me, this reiterates the need for change within the authorities who run the game in Scotland. That's why there MUST be a campaign calling for the immediate resignations of Neil Doncaster and Stewart Regan from their positions within their respective organisations. Their positions are now untenable, following their disgraceful scaremongering tactics over the past few weeks, with Regan's conduct being particularly reprehensible.

I hope now that we can get back to finally talking about football and that we can look forward to the new season which start in 3 weeks' time (or in 4 weeks' time if you're a Rangers fan! :greengrin). What the SPL finally need to do now is to make an urgent decision on whether Dundee or Dunfermline who will be replacing Rangers in the SPL for next season. Both clubs deserve to be informed as soon as possible as none of this is their fault and they need to be able to prepare for the league that they are going to be playing in next season.

I think this will be pushed through for next season (thus giving rangers an early release for good behavior) so they skip Div 2 :agree:

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Originally Posted by Baldy Foghorn

Evening News called me for a quote, and I said I was in two minds over the decision.

On one hand I am delighted that fairness and integrity has been maintained, but on the other hand I am worried of the financial ramifications on Hibs over TV rights etc.....

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Bloody club spokesman:wink:

I think your answer is spot on, anything less then we would all stop paying our bills. Folk have to stop talking about punishments, this is not a punishment, its the authorities following the rules.

In a late development Norris MacWhirter was seen pacing around Ibrox with a stop-watch apparently looking to confirm whether Duff and Phelps broke the world record for the longest time squandered in administration ;)

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Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs

Bloody club spokesman:wink:

I think your answer is spot on, anything less then we would all stop paying our bills. Folk have to stop talking about punishments, this is not a punishment, its the authorities following the rules.

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I gave your name though:greengrin

Are Sevco actually in D3 though. Are they SFA members? Will other clubs with audited accounts such as Spartans not be allowed to bid for a league space?

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Originally Posted by The Sea-gull

Doncaster and Regan have not come out of this at all well and now seem like two staw clutching desperados.

Surely they will resign or be punted as how can they continue heading up two major Scottish sporting organisations whose members clearly strongly disagree with their own stances and viewpoints.

They have come out of this really badly. So has whoever cuts Doncaster's hair.

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He defo goes to Alfies. Home of the famous Shan Hair.

Im trying to keep up with everything and no doubt nothing ends with this decision. One thing bothers me though. Do we lose the chance for league reconstruction? Once we go through a year or two and we don't die through lack of playing OF 8 times a year can we move to a proper league playing teams twice a year. My worry is after 2/3 years they come back up and nothing else has changed. And we stay with the same crappy league we all hate so much. I dont care where Gers end up, though justice says they are where they should be. But if nothing else changes.....?

The Alloa chairman absoutley spot on on STV :top marks :top marks:top marks

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Originally Posted by Mainboy19

The Alloa chairman absoutley spot on on STV :top marks :top marks:top marks

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What did the guy say?

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Originally Posted by Mainboy19

The Alloa chairman absoutley spot on on STV :top marks :top marks:top marks

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Just saw that he came across very well especially the bit about Regan dictating to the clubs

The SFL have had a fair and honest vote .... if the results good enough for them its good enough for me.

I'm all for reconstruction of Scottish football, but not the formation of an SPL2 just to suit the Zombie Huns, in the light of an emphatic vote by the SFL..

Its the job of all the powers that be in Scotland to now do everything they can to minimize the impact of any lost revenue. If the conduct of Regan and Doncaster up to now is anything to go by they aint the men for the job.

Before this season is finished we should have one body running the game and rules in place to ensure this farce never happens again... IE. if you do a Rangers in the future the best you can expect is a place in the 3rd division .. if a place in the league at all, then there will be no doubt.

Now FFS lets get on with the bloody football, with PLEASE no more stupid attempts to get the Zombies up the leagues faster ... this is done !!!


I hope :confused:

What's John Yorkston on about?

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Originally Posted by MerseyHibee

Are Sevco actually in D3 though. Are they SFA members? Will other clubs with audited accounts such as Spartans not be allowed to bid for a league space?

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They have applied for an SFA licence, but I am not sure that it has been granted yet. BTW, they don't need audited accounts for entry, only 1 year's (unaudited) accounts..... which, of course, they don't have. :greengrin

Stewart Regan needs to be removed from his position ASAP

Inverness for one look like they will now try and get Rangers back in the SPL. So they voted previously expecting the SFL to do them a favour.

Regan's statement on the vote...

http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/scottish...wsCategoryID=1

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Originally Posted by hibs0666

Regan's statement on the vote...

http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/scottish...wsCategoryID=1

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Staggering...

From "slow lingering death" to "new opportunities". :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Andy74

Inverness for one look like they will now try and get Rangers back in the SPL. So they voted previously expecting the SFL to do them a favour.

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Appalling if true......The votes have been cast, the result must remain.......

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Originally Posted by Andy74

Inverness for one look like they will now try and get Rangers back in the SPL.

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How do you come to that conclusion?

The arrogance of some of these Rangers fans on Reporting Scotland is amazing - enjoy your trips to Elgin and Annan ya bams.

4 years

25/30 SPL clubs voted for Newco in Div3. Who were the 5???

2 of them were QOTS,and Hamilton.

All this talk about league reforms and fairer money distribution as well as a pyramid scheme with non-league teams. Are these all things that will only be considered if we allow Newco into the second level of Scottish football?

There isn't a single board member in the Third Division that would think it was a good idea to accept the prospect of relegation to abyss in return for cash and 4 extra places in the top league. Why would anyone with any understanding of Scottish Football think that a 16 team SPL would excite the likes of East Stirlingshire, Albion Rovers, Clyde, and Queens Park, Elgin, Peterhead or anyone else? Especially when the SPL retains a minimum seating criteria which is some cases is 25 times those clubs average home gate and in a couple of cases would mean putting more seats into their football grounds than their town has folk.

League reconstruction has been another matter on which consensus has been difficult to find. Both McLeish in his report and Neil Doncaster had previously stated that their preference had been for a 10-team top division, believing a 14 or 16-team league unworkable. mmmmmmm how loss of cash has somehow changed their mind now.

More twists and turns to come next week? Who knows....

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Originally Posted by s.a.m

2 of them were QOTS,and Hamilton.

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According to Alex Thomson on Channel 4, Berwick were another. Their chairman is/was a Rangers shareholder.

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Originally Posted by deek

There should not be any thought of a new SPL 2 this season. I'm all for reconstruction of the league, but not to satisfy the greed of one club or to cover up the ineptitude of two senior officials. Regan and Doncaster should be out ASAP!!!!!!!!

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Agree completely but I wouldn't put anything past these morons:agree:

Interesting Rangers said bumping them to Div 3 would be disaster for Scottish Football - yet no concern when they wanted to move to England??!! ****ing Morons!.


Ill stick to my words that if the huns are in Div 3 this coming season ill buy me and the missus and 4 kids ( niece's and nephew's ) Season tickets...6 seasons in total :aok: Many more Hibby's will stick to there word and do the same IF the Currents are root tooted doon tae Div1.

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Originally Posted by AyrshireHibs

The arrogance of some of these Rangers fans on Reporting Scotland is amazing - enjoy your trips to Elgin and Annan ya bams.

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They seem to think other clubs are 'punishing' them :rolleyes:. These eejits need to wake up to the fact they revelled in the Murray days and are now paying the price of their club owners' tax avoidance.

Aberdeen fans spokesperson was excellent. They are looking for 19000 fans to attend their first home game which will wipe out any money they would lose from Sevco fans attending. Something we should do?

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Originally Posted by cocopops1875

I think this will be pushed through for next season (thus giving rangers an early release for good behavior) so they skip Div 2 :agree:

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:agree: This I could handle assuming it was done correctly - the notion of setting up SPL2 over the next fortnight though is completely farcical as well as strategically and morally wrong.