Covid means theyve made their money, they're shameless and they're partying.Quote:
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Covid means theyve made their money, they're shameless and they're partying.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
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https://twitter.com/mij_europe/statu...812989442?s=21
Interesting thread on compromises the EU are about to make on Irish Sea border.
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https://twitter.com/Andrew_Adonis/st...iqCQnju7g&s=19
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meanwhile the corrupt PoS is away on another freebie holiday with princess nut nut, and i bet he left his wallet at home, assuming he even has one
A week in the Costa de Sol? Outside of half term where he won’t have to rub shoulders with the great unwashed? Capitol notion. 7 weeks summer holiday is clearly not enough for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
Was looking at MPs pay yesterday. They vote themselves an increase every year without fail, despite economic conditions. From £65k to £81 since 2010, which is still‘miserly’ according to a Tory MP last week.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/388885/mp-salary-uk/
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It's almost as if Bozo signed up for this without reading it first.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Maybe he was on holiday at the time.
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An interesting analysis here of what Johnson and Frost might be up to, and why that needs Biden to come a cropper:
https://twitter.com/AndrewPRLevi/sta...30372706721803
Totally correct. All Remainers' fault. :faf:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Reading between the lines the tone of that sounds like a bully intoning, "don't you know who I am?" The reality is filtered through Billy Connollys quip, "don't you know who I was?"Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
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We'll be able to say we always liked the Poles if this comes off, maybe we could set up some sort of alliance..........Quote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
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Don't doubt there'll be a few disaster capitalists rubbing their hands at the slightest prospect of a bit of European nation-state warring again. Been a long time fallow now with the pesky EEC/EC/EU.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
I heard on the radio that the British Trade Minister is already trying to set up a trade agreement with Agatha Smalinski who makes homemade raspberry jam and sells it on Ebay.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
https://twitter.com/snoxyy14/status/...488051201?s=21
… surely has to be fake but nothing jumping out to say it is
… is NF now embracing the Belfast Agreement?
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He now does online messages for money, he reads out whatever you ask him. I guessing he didn’t realise what he was saying when he said that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Radium
https://twitter.com/joriszwart/statu...8aEllTJCA&s=08
Imagine there being consequences for actions, not sure that was part of the Brexit thinking here.
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https://twitter.com/nashsgc/status/1...678809089?s=21
Former negotiator on what’s happening just now.
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How independent Ireland is refocusing its trade directly to Europe. This is what an independent Scotland will have to do as well. Will result in much bigger port facilities at Rosyth and Leith.
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Wee tangent - I wonder if the environmental cost of travelling by sea is better or worse than the majority of the journey being overland?Quote:
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I would think maybe sea is worse just because I’ve read articles on the pollution these big ship cause but that is a total guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
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Better for CO2, worse for other pollutants, it turns out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
https://www.researchgate.net/publica...external_costs
Nice visual summary (SSS = Short Sea Shipping) :greengrin
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Although among the conclusions are that shipping has the potential to get much better if emission standards enforced similar to road.
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/...ed-cargo-shipsQuote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
I don't think the Forth Ports Authority has any intention of developing Leith, other than for movies and the like. I feel any ambition for deep berths would have happened by now with the lucrative cruising market providing the spur. They'll just stick with, the much cheaper, Rosyth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
On the point of the ships. Modern ships are about as eco friendly as you can get, even cruise ships with 5,000 wasteful passengers on board!
It's the old ships that are causing all the eco warriors to get humpty and by far most of these dirty ship operate in the Far East. They probably wouldn't be allowed to operate in Europe.
A pathological and incorrigible liar. Now he's trying to destroy the NI protocol.
https://youtu.be/KNQieRppQSQ
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His tweets are easy to read….Quote:
Originally Posted by Radium
And he accuses the PM of 'babbling'? Who can take Cummings seriously any more? Cracking campaigner to have on your side but now a bitter has-been.Quote:
Originally Posted by Radium
Just because he’s attacking your guy now, we all have to stop taking him seriously?Quote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
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Do you take Salmond seriously these days?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Cummings has been spurned so taking anything he says at face value is naive. There’s also the trap that because he is kicking the guy you don’t support, you jump too quickly to believe everything he says.Quote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
I do think that having plotters like Cummings at the heart of one of the leave campaigns and thereafter the Conservative party reflects a lack of moral compass. The Moto seems to be, win at any cost and we will work the rest out later.
As you say, he is an astute campaigner and is certainly not stupid. He put £360 million on the side of a bus and destroyed days of campaigning for the remain camp.
He said this in the summer
“If VL (Vote Leave) had run things from 6/16 (June 2016, when the referendum was held) we’d have refused checks in Irish Sea or to build anything on Ireland border.
“And we’d have pointed out GFA has f*** all to do with Brussels!
“Ireland would have been a bit messy but so what? It’s a small problem relative to others,” Mr Cummings said.
“NI would have been a minor part of the negotiations if we’d run them from 6/16, because we’d have made clear we’d have acted unilaterally if they d**ked around babbling about GFA etc,” he tweeted.
which lines up with his opinion that NI / GFS doesn’t matter. Lord Frost now has the opportunity to show how much it does…
… but wasn’t the deal oven ready…
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Not as much as you do these days.[emoji23]Quote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
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EU making some pretty big concessions on Irish Sea Border. Great news for Scottish Independence.
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An article from the New Statesman that felt about right to me.
https://www.newstatesman.com/comment...nal-and-absurd
This one by Paul Mason makes good points as well. It will be ignored though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
https://www.newstatesman.com/comment...rexit-question
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It's behind a pay wall for me Oz, I do like vary my reading sources, I'm just not too keen on paying to do so. :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
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Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
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Labour has no hope of defeating the Conservatives until it answers the Brexit question
The alternatives to a hard Brexit are well known and entirely possible to achieve.
By Paul Mason
The Conservatives are running a regime of crisis. Ten months into the Covid-19 vaccination programme, Britain has the highest infection rate in western Europe.
We are missing not only 100,000 HGV drivers but the same number of care home workers. Firms making steel, ceramics and cement glass are on the verge of collapse due to the gas price spike. A shortage of abattoir workers has already led 650 pigs to be culled.
But the government has learned to revel in chaos. It has threatened to pull the plug on the Northern Ireland protocol, which would plunge the peace process into turmoil and spark a trade war with Europe. It is also at war with itself over whether to let vital manufacturing firms live or die. It is a chaos engine.
But crisis turns out to be the most profitable modus operandi for Boris Johnson. The pattern was established early in the pandemic: incompetence, passivity and absence followed by aggressive buck-passing and rhetoric of “sunny uplands”. And it paid off.
No matter how many bodies in the morgue or how long the petrol queue, nothing can dent the Tories’ poll lead because every crisis situation feeds the conservative impulse among the two groups that form the Tory coalition: elderly, white middle-class people in southern England and elderly white working-class people in northern England.
The same social coalition that brought us Brexit seems happy enough to live with the consequences: a permanent trade crisis and a disintegrating democracy. Do they care that the Conservative Party has become a machine for organised corruption, running a conveyor belt from the dodgy end of finance into the House of Lords? Not enough to risk a non-Tory government.
And should the supply chain crisis, the labour shortage and the perpetual diplomatic war with Europe fail to weld middle England to the Tories, there is always the unexploded constitutional bomb of Scotland to do the job.
At the Conservative Party conference, speaker after speaker lined up not only to oppose Scottish independence and a second referendum, but to declare that they would “never allow” them to happen. And in the conservative press, a narrative is being constructed around Scottish disloyalty and threats to national security.
The former defence secretary Michael Fallon warned this week that Scottish independence “would weaken Nato and would play into the hands of our adversaries, especially those in Moscow, Beijing, Pyongyang and Tehran who wish us harm”.
Meanwhile, the Scottish conservative commentator Iain Martin laid into an SNP MP for suggesting a post-independence defence pact, customs union and banking union. Martin tweeted: “Why would England or English voters agree to any of this? A hostile power to the north again. One of the main original reasons for the Union from an English perspective would be undone.”
This, then, is the emerging logic of Tory thinking. Play hardball with Europe over the Northern Ireland protocol, pick fight after fight with France – over fishing rights, submarines and migrant crossings – all in preparation for a decisive showdown over Scotland.
If they can paint Scottish independence as the next existential threat (following Europe and Covid) to the UK, and depict Labour as soft on the issue, they can stiffen the conservative impulse in middle England, setting the stage for yet another “crisis election” whose timing will be choreographed around any bid by Holyrood to hold a second referendum. The result would ensure two decades of Tory rule.
The opposition parties are failing to land a blow on Johnson because they are playing the wrong game. Since 2014, when Scottish independence was averted by chicanery and duplicity among politicians, business and the media, the UK has been in a rolling constitutional crisis.
The referendum accelerated the desertion of Ed Miliband’s Labour Party by English voters. Then Labour itself ceased to be a stable pillar of the British state, becoming instead a warzone between its radicalised membership and its MPs. Then Brexit happened, followed by three years of political crisis characterised by government attacks on the judiciary, lies to the monarchy and the unlawful prorogation of parliament.
But at Labour’s conference in September, nobody wanted to mention Scotland or Brexit. Labour is trying to fight the Conservatives on the terrain of competence, honesty and mild redistribution. Here, ironically, there is complete continuity between Starmer and Jeremy Corbyn’s leadership, both driven by the conviction that talking loudly enough about something else will make Britain’s constitutional and geostrategic issues go away.
Miliband’s defeat in 2015 should have killed forever the “one more heave” philosophy that lurks behind all Labour thinking. Instead, it has been replaced by a naive hope: that “one more crisis” will break people’s emotional attachment to the Tory party.
Maybe, once the care homes close their doors, the shops run out of Christmas tat, the garage forecourts fill with angry motorists again, the steel industry collapses under the gas price surge and the docks pile high with undelivered goods, something will snap. But don’t count on it.
What will defeat this chaos-addicted government is a clear alternative. Not just on economic and social priorities, but on trade, geopolitics and the constitution.
And that means confronting the issue of Brexit. The Conservatives chose a hard Brexit: skills shortages, goods shortages and energy shortages are the result. They sold British voters the fantasy of a “global” buccaneering nation, reliving its colonial heyday, at the very moment the world economy began to harden into rival continental blocs. The result is geopolitical isolation, severe stress in the supply chain and the accelerated break-up of Britain.
There is only one logical escape route from ten years of continuous crisis, corruption and incoherence. And it is not some kind of mild, “normal” Labour government. The electoral advances required look impossible.
The solution is a Labour-led coalition that drives radical constitutional change, creating the conditions to keep Johnson and his right-wing populist crew out of office. That coalition is unachievable without an honest and open alternative to a hard Brexit.
Britain cannot and should not return to the EU. But the alternatives to a hard Brexit are well known and entirely possible to achieve with good will: Britain should seek entry either to “the” or “a” single market for goods, reintegrate into European energy and labour markets, and resume strategic partnership over security and defence. That would solve the Northern Ireland border issue and remove the threat of trade friction across Britain in the event of Scottish independence.
A Labour-led coalition would, by its very design, be obliged to permit a second Scottish vote. But if, along the way, it delivered radical electoral reform and accelerated devolution, this might help to soften support for outright independence in favour of a federal system.
Until opposition politicians learn to see the nature of the conflict clearly, they can’t fight it effectively. The Chinese philosopher Sun Tzu reduced all conflict to two kinds of force: the ordinary and the extraordinary – and wrote that it is the latter that wins the battle. For Johnson, maladministration and graft is the ordinary force; chaos politics the extraordinary one.
Until it stops ignoring the big, emotive issues driving the chaos – Brexit chief among them – Labour will have no extraordinary counterforce to match.
What I'm picking up from both articles above is that in Germany there is, however imperfect, an attempt at running their country with some kind of social contract as a given. In this country there is such thought for a social contarct even allowed and the country is run for the benefit of a 5% who thrive on disaster capitalism aided and abetted by the absolute idiots in the elctorate who fall for dafty things like flags and sovereignty.
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Very good article. Having the choice to ‘become’ European again sadly isn’t an option for most people. It’s definitely something ive been thinking about.Quote:
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It'll be more than just from Germany, though. The whole world and half of Britain, if they're paying attention, will be thinking the same way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
Thanks JMS and Oz. That is a decent description of the current situation, although I can't agree with his conclusion as to how we get out of it. The next Westminster Labour government is only a prelude to the next Westminster Tory government, there's another way out of this for Scotland.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
Ironic the programme was on BBC who are in a similar state of denial re brexit as Uk ministers.Quote:
Originally Posted by ronaldo7
https://twitter.com/peston/status/14...189885963?s=21
Peston now saying we are heading into recession. He has form for predicting financial meltdown. The Brexit recession is on the way.
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A big money maker for those in a position to bet on it happening.Quote:
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Brexit bonus.
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https://sluggerotoole.com/2021/10/11...e-ni-protocol/
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The number of which is....Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
"The UK government is doing this not because it has a practical dispute over trade flow, but because it wishes to divert attention away from its own incompetence back home."
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I recognised myself in that New Statesman piece. Last month I received my Norwegian citizenship after about a years process with language/citizenship tests. I have an appointment next month for my new Norwegian passport. I was so fuming with the Brexit result it was a very easy decision for me. Most of the expat community here have done the same thing, although there are a couple of little Englanders I know who refuse, claiming they would never carry another countries passport. I on the other hand am embarrassed with the British one, I will keep it but cant see me using it anytime soon. I do travel regulary and there was no way anybody was taking my freedom of movement away from me.
Got Irish passports for myself and the family. I genuinely thought we wouldn’t leave the SM and CU. More fool me.Quote:
Originally Posted by norhfc
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I recently had my application for a French 10 year resident's permit approved and have been summoned to the regional council headquarters on Tuesday afternoon for fingerprinting etc..Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
I'm hoping that Scotland is independent & back in the EU by the time it expires!
I don’t know where these charts come from.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
here are the latest IMF
https://researchbriefings.files.parl...84/SN02784.pdf
Different time periodsQuote:
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YQuote:
Originally Posted by wookie70
The data I posted was from 12 th October 2021
I think one set started a year before the otherQuote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
Not just denial but totally devoid of reality. An utter disgrace that the bbc has been beaten down by the last tory govts and is now scared to report what is palpably true. I don't watch any TV news anymore. Its so obvious it's a doctored version of what I see day to day. Dare I say propaganda.Quote:
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It still shows UK GDP to down 3.3% on pre-covid figures , exactly the same as France, exactly the same as Germany, and 0.2 % better than Italy .
Hardly worst in the G7 as the poster claimed.
They're not scared of the tory government they are governed by one of their poster boys. Game, set and match.Quote:
Originally Posted by mjhibby
Not sure that's true. More concerned with the continuation. Of the licence fee.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack
It's not just one poster boy, the text below is from Wiki. There was controversy when Davie axed the Mash Report and was quoted as saying too much of BBC comedy was left wing. He also issued guidelines saying BBC staff should not be critical of the government when using [even private] social media.Quote:
Originally Posted by mjhibby
"Some commentators, such as*Peter Oborne, have argued that there is a culture of "client journalism" which has flourished in recent years due to a closeness between the BBC and the ruling Conservative Party, which has led to their bias in favour of the establishment.[11]*For example, from 2008 to 2017,*Robbie Gibb*was head of the BBC Westminster and therefore in charge of the BBC's political programming. His brother,*Nick Gibb, is a Conservative MP and Minister for Schools, and Robbie Gibb took a job with*Theresa May*as Director of Communications immediately after resigning from the BBC. The incoming Director-General as of September 2020,*Tim Davie, is a former Conservative Party councilor. In addition, the new Chairman of the BBC, Richard Sharp, has donated over £400,000 to the Conservative Party since 2001
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Absolute cringe. Country is suffering crisis on multiple fronts and this is what they are talking about?Quote:
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UKGov needs people to continue talking about the badness of the EU, indefinitely. Will not stop unless England wakes up, of which there is no sign.Quote:
Originally Posted by neil7908
Criminal to say pound, yet there she is outside a court not being arrested.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Who cares about this enough to make up a sign and go out and protest? How little has she got going on in her life for this to be so important, it’s laughable. It’s just another deflection from our government and idiots like her lap it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Northernhibee
Australian trade minister leaves UK with no deal – POLITICO
Australian trade minister leaves UK with no deal
Dan Tehan hoped to strike an agreement with his UK counterpart, but it wasn’t to be.
oh well
Was this not meant to be Beefy Botham's department?Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
These people are not the full shilling.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
I said the same thing about the old boy that blocked a roundabout at Silverknowes because he was so upset about Spaces for People. How can this be the most important thing in their life to be upset about?Quote:
Originally Posted by lord bunberry
https://twitter.com/scotshodler/stat...soQBkvyjw&s=08
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Farage on Irish TV, agitating for Ireland to leave the EU. The expertise of this grifter is demonstrated: "Up the Ra".
https://youtu.be/S9NNtFT04ik
"Grifter" is too polite. He's a dangerous man.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba
He's got a point given its going so well here......Quote:
Originally Posted by Glory Lurker
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics...r-survey-finds
I find it hard to stomach but we are now in a place where politicians, the media and huge chunks of voters will not ever allow Brexit to be anything other than a success. No amount of price rises, shortages or evidence will change their minds.
https://www.nfus.org.uk/news/news/un...l-announcement
Union Anger at New Zealand Trade Deal Announcement
Scotland’s farmers and crofters shut out of negotiations again
NFU Scotland has reacted with anger and dismay at the announcement of a further free trade deal that grants a major exporting nation unfettered access to the UK and offers virtually nothing to Scottish farmers, growers and crofters in return.
As with the Australian deal, the New Zealand negotiations have been concluded without proper parliamentary scrutiny. The Union believes this is vital but, with the continued absence of the promised Statutory Trade and Agriculture Commission, the UK Government has failed to establish a route to effective scrutiny.
#YOUYESYET
Given how much some people are willing to sacrifice to save the union, I doubt this will matter a jot to them but there are people out there willing to be persuaded and we just have to keep chipping away at them.Quote:
Originally Posted by ronaldo7
At least with Brexit, we have demonstrable way of showing how we can improve the economy of Scotland.
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Chief farming advocate Douglas Ross must have said it was alright. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by ronaldo7
https://twitter.com/alextaylornews/s...024979971?s=21
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Another Brexit benefit. Hopefully this does not apply to Scotland.
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Disgraceful. It will barely get a mention in the MSM. If at all.Quote:
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Is the independent newspaper not part of the MSM? 🤔😉Quote:
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/10/21/boris-johnson-faces-embarrassing-commons-rebellion-raw-sewage/
https://www-express-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.express.co.uk/news/science/1510023/boris-johnson-tory-rebellion-commons-environmental-bill-cop26-climate-change/amp?amp_gsa=1&_js_v=a6&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIA CAw%3D%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=1635083729516 3&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&share=h ttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.express.co.uk%2Fnews%2Fscience%2F 1510023%2Fboris-johnson-tory-rebellion-commons-environmental-bill-cop26-climate-change
https://twitter.com/PassionsJuice/st...aXgAbWf8A&s=19
Watch to the end :faf:
You genuinely couldn’t make that up :faf:Quote:
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stool brittania....eek
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coming to shores/rivers near you, down south anyway
Fair point. I lazily never searched before posting. The Independent are part of the MSM of course, but I meant the more right wing elements as well as the beeb. And you’ve just provided examples from those areas 😳Quote:
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i'm not too sure if this is photoshopped
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It shouldn't however given that all the Tory MPs from Scottish constituencies voted for it, despite it being devolved, it wouldn't surprise me if they are planning to run roughshod over Holyrood again.Quote:
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Control of such things is run by SEPA I don't think there is any chance that the legislation will change up here.Quote:
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#Turdreich on the twittersphere is very apt for these Tory turds.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
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Is this what the EU meant by Turd country status?
Pretty sure our water supply isn’t privatised anyway so no way SG would allow it.Quote:
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A life line for the guy to get back to his old ways, absolutely mental.Quote:
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Originally Posted by ronaldo7
British fish will be even happier now getting to feast on all those extra nutrients, just think how juicier they will taste as well knowing what their diet will consist of, it's just another upside of Brexit
Was he not voted in on the back of protecting farmers and fisheries in his area. Guy has an absolute neck of brassQuote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
https://amp.theguardian.com/world/20...mpression=true
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