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29-08-2021, 08:27 PM
Pagan Hibernia

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Originally Posted by coldingham hibs

Horrific in what way?.

I responded to a suggestion that Allan gets a run of games and asked who would be dropped.

Some people need to take their Scott Allan blinkers off.

The guy has done remarkably well considering his health issues but we are talking about performances on the park. If we have any ambition as a club then we have to look at the big picture. Would anyone on here even consider starting Allan against Hearts?, if not then that says it all.

I’d be absolutely fine with that.
29-08-2021, 08:28 PM
J-C

Quote:

Originally Posted by coldingham hibs

Horrific in what way?.

I responded to a suggestion that Allan gets a run of games and asked who would be dropped.

Some people need to take their Scott Allan blinkers off.

The guy has done remarkably well considering his health issues but we are talking about performances on the park. If we have any ambition as a club then we have to look at the big picture. Would anyone on here even consider starting Allan against Hearts?, if not then that says it all.

The lad had a serious heart condition that could've stopped his whole career and even affected his health, he's under contract and we as a club have a duty to look after him whilst under that contract. He missed a lot of football due to all this and he's doing his best to get back to the levels we know he can reach, will he ever get back there again, we don't know but as long as he's here we can at least get him back on the pitch and contribute one way or another as either a starter or a sub.
29-08-2021, 08:37 PM
LeithMike

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Originally Posted by jeffers

Anyone who has paid the slightest bit of attention to my posts will know I’m a huge Scott Allan fan. I was delighted when he came on yesterday. I thought he did OK, but no more than that until his flick to Boyle. However I personally thought he was too advanced, I’d like to have seen him playing a bit deeper and being given the opportunity to pick a pass.

I’d heard suggestions beforehand that he was carrying a bit of extra weight, but I didn’t think so watching him yesterday, however he just didn’t look right to me. Can’t be specific but just didn’t look 100%. I still hope he just needs regular game time to get back to somewhere close to his previous levels. If not with us, sadly, then another team as is looking more likely. I will repeat myself by saying I don’t see him as an impact sub, he needs, certainly at present, time to play himself into a game.

Agree that he was too advanced. He was playing up level with the striker most of the time. He looked like he wanted to drop deep to pick up the ball but seemed to stick with what he'd been told. He did seem to look across at the bench quizically a few times though. It was a good sub though as it would have been a real blow to him if McKay came on instead of him.

He certainly looked fit during his warm-up and as his game has never really been about pace, I dont see why he doesnt have something to offer and wouldnt be writing him off. If we stick with 4-5-1 then he definitely remains an option as an attacking midfielder.

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29-08-2021, 08:40 PM
MWHIBBIES

Don't see why Scott Allan wouldn't want a supporting role. He wasted 4 years at Celtic for the money, pretty sure he'll be happy contributing and getting a good wage here for another year.

The theory of him leaving is based on nothing really. Jamie Gullan is an example of someone who will be away, hes not kicked a ball. Allan has already played 5 matches this season.
29-08-2021, 08:48 PM
madhatter

I think Scott Allan looked the closest to his old self yesterday. Moved more freely (looked fitter or had less weight on his mind whichever it might be).

Don't think he'd start before Magennis and JDH most weeks but more than ample competition for Newell and Gogic.

If he leaves then all the best to him. Can't see it though as I think he'll want to enjoy the remaining years of football and feel loved by the fans.
29-08-2021, 09:23 PM
shetlandhibee

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Originally Posted by madhatter

I think Scott Allan looked the closest to his old self yesterday. Moved more freely (looked fitter or had less weight on his mind whichever it might be).

Don't think he'd start before Magennis and JDH most weeks but more than ample competition for Newell and Gogic.

If he leaves then all the best to him. Can't see it though as I think he'll want to enjoy the remaining years of football and feel loved by the fans.

:top marks
29-08-2021, 09:29 PM
SMAXXA

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Originally Posted by madhatter

I think Scott Allan looked the closest to his old self yesterday. Moved more freely (looked fitter or had less weight on his mind whichever it might be).

Don't think he'd start before Magennis and JDH most weeks but more than ample competition for Newell and Gogic.

If he leaves then all the best to him. Can't see it though as I think he'll want to enjoy the remaining years of football and feel loved by the fans.

No for me Scott wants to play after what could have ended his career hope it’s with us if not he goes with all our best
29-08-2021, 10:14 PM
heretoday

We should empty Scott I'm afraid. Far too lightweight for the premier league. I love the guy but......................
30-08-2021, 12:17 AM
Centre Hawf

Quote:

Originally Posted by coldingham hibs

Horrific in what way?.

I responded to a suggestion that Allan gets a run of games and asked who would be dropped.

Some people need to take their Scott Allan blinkers off.

The guy has done remarkably well considering his health issues but we are talking about performances on the park. If we have any ambition as a club then we have to look at the big picture. Would anyone on here even consider starting Allan against Hearts?, if not then that says it all.

I have no issue with starting Allan in that game at all. If anything I want to see him given the chance in it.
30-08-2021, 05:39 AM
Since452

We are a worse side when Scott is in it. That's the sad truth. Drey Wright got slaughtered by some and he was much better than Allan when he came on.
30-08-2021, 09:23 AM
J-C

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Originally Posted by Since452

We are a worse side when Scott is in it. That's the sad truth. Drey Wright got slaughtered by some and he was much better than Allan when he came on.

Amazing we actually managed to win on Saturday when he played, oh and his fluke back heel for the 2nd
30-08-2021, 09:38 AM
Hibernian Verse

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Originally Posted by J-C

Amazing we actually managed to win on Saturday when he played, oh and his fluke back heel for the 2nd

I think what he is getting at is when we are out of possession it's like playing with 10 men. With the ball, Allan is fine and it was a nice flick.
30-08-2021, 09:43 AM
Smartie

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Originally Posted by Since452

We are a worse side when Scott is in it. That's the sad truth. Drey Wright got slaughtered by some and he was much better than Allan when he came on.

That's very much like comparing apples and oranges though.

Both players did the job that they were there to do whilst maybe not being at their very best. Both will also benefit from having had some time on the pitch and my main criticism of the pair of them would be that they both looked - understandably - a bit rusty.

I thought we looked a better side after Scott Allan went on, and I thought we looked a bit tighter defensively on our left when Wright came on.
30-08-2021, 10:06 AM
Lago

It will be cameo appearances for Scott from now on if he stays.
30-08-2021, 10:37 AM
SHODAN

Is everyone just ignoring the backheel assist?
30-08-2021, 10:54 AM
Shrekko

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Originally Posted by Diclonius

Is everyone just ignoring the backheel assist?

You feel it’s not been mentioned enough?

I’m somewhere in the middle on the whole debate as I’d love him to get back to where he was - I’m not seeing a lot of hope but am willing him to get there.

However … those advocating he starts at Tynie… dearie me- cmon.
30-08-2021, 11:58 AM
J-C

Are some of you guys forgetting he had a serious heart condition and we're lucky he's able to play at all. He missed a huge chunk of football and if all we get from him is the odd half here and there then I'm fine with that.
30-08-2021, 12:29 PM
Iggy Pope

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Originally Posted by Hibbyradge

Jeffers on the PM board.

Reads a lot like Jeffers thoughts on the matter rather than anything he knows.
30-08-2021, 12:32 PM
660

Allan could take a nap in the centre circle and the fans would give him a standing ovation. He’s been crap since he returned. I have no idea what people see in him.
30-08-2021, 12:47 PM
Lewiehas2

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Originally Posted by Hibernian Verse

I think what he is getting at is when we are out of possession it's like playing with 10 men. With the ball, Allan is fine and it was a nice flick.

Off the ball isn't just winning tackles. Scott's pressing was unbelievable on Saturday, constantly chasing down defenders and not giving their midfielders a minutes peace.

Up until the back heel, didn't think he contributed much on the ball (but we didn't necessarily play through him either), but to suggest he's like a man down isn't right, he worked his socks off.
30-08-2021, 12:47 PM
flash

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Originally Posted by 660

Allan could take a nap in the centre circle and the fans would give him a standing ovation. He’s been crap since he returned. I have no idea what people see in him.

Ooh look at me.
30-08-2021, 12:51 PM
Mon Dieu4

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Originally Posted by 660

Allan could take a nap in the centre circle and the fans would give him a standing ovation. He’s been crap since he returned. I have no idea what people see in him.

Depends what you want in a footballer, there is room in a team for all types, Latapy, Riordan, Zemmama could all have quiet games and get accused of being lazy but the one bit of outrageous play they come up with can win you a game, that's why I watch football, not to see 11 folk that can run and run all day and play football like painting by numbers
30-08-2021, 12:53 PM
Libby Hibby

I think a few of us are forgetting SA’s back heel assist on Saturday.
30-08-2021, 01:15 PM
keep the faith

Quote:

Originally Posted by 660

Allan could take a nap in the centre circle and the fans would give him a standing ovation. He’s been crap since he returned. I have no idea what people see in him.

Enjoy Gogic....
30-08-2021, 01:20 PM
Peevemor

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Originally Posted by Libby Hibby

I think a few of us are forgetting SA’s back heel assist on Saturday.

I doubt it, given that it's mentioned at less than 2 hour intervals.
30-08-2021, 01:26 PM
jeffers

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Originally Posted by Iggy Pope

Reads a lot like Jeffers thoughts on the matter rather than anything he knows.

Oh does it.
30-08-2021, 01:33 PM
Iggy Pope

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Originally Posted by Hibbyradge

Apologies for not being online to reply to your urgent question! :na na:

It's not waffle, it's a genuine comment. I'll be surprised if he's still here. No more, no less than that.

I'll be surprised because I don't think we can afford to have a player on our books who we're only going to use for less than a quarter of the game.

Also, others have suggested that he's looking for a move himself.

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Originally Posted by jeffers

Anyone who has paid the slightest bit of attention to my posts will know I’m a huge Scott Allan fan. I was delighted when he came on yesterday. I thought he did OK, but no more than that until his flick to Boyle. However I personally thought he was too advanced, I’d like to have seen him playing a bit deeper and being given the opportunity to pick a pass.

I’d heard suggestions beforehand that he was carrying a bit of extra weight, but I didn’t think so watching him yesterday, however he just didn’t look right to me. Can’t be specific but just didn’t look 100%. I still hope he just needs regular game time to get back to somewhere close to his previous levels. If not with us, sadly, then another team as is looking more likely. I will repeat myself by saying I don’t see him as an impact sub, he needs, certainly at present, time to play himself into a game.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iggy Pope

Reads a lot like Jeffers thoughts on the matter rather than anything he knows.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeffers

Oh does it.

Aye, I suppose it does and I hope you’re wrong.
30-08-2021, 01:36 PM
jeffers

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Originally Posted by Iggy Pope

Aye, I suppose it does and I hope you’re wrong.

The post that D referred to wasn’t on this board though.
30-08-2021, 01:36 PM
JammyDoidger

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Originally Posted by 660

Allan could take a nap in the centre circle and the fans would give him a standing ovation. He’s been crap since he returned. I have no idea what people see in him.

You've no idea what people see in allan? Your eyes are painted on or your at the wind up.
30-08-2021, 01:38 PM
Iggy Pope

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Originally Posted by jeffers

The post that D referred to wasn’t on this board though.

I’ve read that one too, of course, albeit this discussion is on this board.

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