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Best thing about Smackdown last night was Paige's chebs.
Haha 😂😂😂Quote:
Originally Posted by IGRIGI
Another excellent NXT Takeover today.
Only watched the tag title match so far but it was outstanding.Tyler Bate at 21 years old is better than a lot of wrestlers could ever dream about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve-O
NXT is better than it was 3 years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve-O
Really hope Lesnar loses the title tonight.
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Originally Posted by SteveHFC
I also hope Lesnar loses the title tonight but then Braun Strowman or Kevin Owens cash in MITB and win the title from Roman Reigns.
I really struggle with the main roster at the minute. Some decent matches but I struggled to care about any of them. Underwhelmed really. There are just no real surprises any more.
Decent show this morning considering some of the ending's to matches were ridiculous.
Becky heel turn, Seth v Dolph, Brock losing the title all highlights for myself.
The main roaster stuff is mostly garabge. Last nights show had a few decent matches but even then they were the matches with Rollins and Bryan involved who are just superb against anyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve-O
TBF they have done well in getting people to turn on Lesnar but still Reigns gets very little cheers. Thought the main event was a farce tbh
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Originally Posted by SteveHFC
You could tell the Becky heel turn was on the cards once Charlotte won it from right under Becky’s nose. Could see it coming a mile off. Was hoping for a Ambrose heel turn as well on Rollins but that might happen in due course.
Smack down this week was immense.
Raw was OK. Not a big fan of the shield as I missed their first go round so I'm not beholden to them like many.
Joe v aj at hiac will be 💥💥
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Originally Posted by Onceinawhile
The Sheild were awesome when they were treated as 3 equals while now it's more about pushing Roman even more as the leader.
Samoa Joe is on fire right now and Styles is still unreal in the ring.
An other point is the Becky vs Charlotte fued has gotten the roles the wrong way round Becky is the face here.Hope she gets the title win.
The ending of raw was pathetic.
Turning Strowman heel just to get people to cheer for Roman.
Better get used to it sadly.McIntrye is supposedly up next for Roman.Smackdown continues to be very good though as long as they give Becky the big win.Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveHFC
Rumours of Shawn Michaels coming out of retirement.
Daniel Bryan signs a new deal with WWE.
Looks like Matt Hardy has retired
Last night was a decent ppv.
With a terrible ending though :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveHFC
Who's all excited for the super show down tomorrow............... Nah me either!!!
At least becky balboa retained. Can't see any title changes today.
AJ retains as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Onceinawhile
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Originally Posted by Onceinawhile
Who won the HHH VS Taker match?
Watched it all before heading to easter road.
A poor ppv. It's sad WWE are relying on old stars these days.
I don't think it's something that will end any time soon, I read a few articles saying Vince has an open cheque book for his Saudi events, the Rock is getting mega bucks for a planned return.Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveHFC
Hhh, but it's just a set up for Saudi Arabia where hbk tarnishes his retirement.Quote:
Originally Posted by hfc rd
Can't understand why the past like Hhh and taker are on the card but, balor, wyatt, corbin or sasha or bayley or 3ven carmella aren't.
Its a nonsense. How will the future legends be born if they don't get any hype.
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Originally Posted by Onceinawhile
Its this kind of repeated pattern that may end up costing the WWE dear in the medium term future, the ‘legends’ can’t keep going forever
Apparently the Saudi prince that's paying many millions for these events is big fan of 90s wrestling hence why they want older stars for them. Allegedly asked for Yokozuna and Ultimate Warrior to appear 🙄
The Rock,Stone Cold and Hogan will all be back for one in the future guaranteed.
Last night’s raw was back to 1998.
Thought raw was good, but d generation x? They were about railing against authority, now they are quite literally (in hhh's case) the authority.
Shield v braun, drew and ziggler was cracking. Crowd seemed into strowman v drew as well.
Smackdown 1000 tonight should be good.
Really sad news about Roman.
Hope he he comes back stronger than ever.
Just seen this terrible news hope he beats it and comes back better than ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveHFC
The ending of raw was outstanding
Best time to turn Ambrose when it was least Expected, very ballsy move by WWE.should give both guys a ton of momentum.Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveHFC
Saudi won't allow the women to wrestle, that's the reason why you're getting a women only ppv to take the heat off that decision, however it's a good thing for women's wrestling to get such a spotlight, even if it came about through bad means.Quote:
Originally Posted by Onceinawhile
Quite right, I'd obviously forgotten about that.Quote:
Originally Posted by ian cruise
Despite all the pressure looks like crown jewel is going ahead in Saudi.
Presumably braun wins the title? Then fights with drew over it.
Or Brock wins it again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Onceinawhile
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Originally Posted by SteveHFC
I hope not!
Daniel Bryan also not going to Saudi Arabia,and Becky gets a match Vs Ronda at survivor series might even main event it.
Good on him for sticking to his guns.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibs#1
I can't imagine Joe is going to dethrone AJ though, surely if he was he would have done it by now? In fact, I just can't see anyone taking the title from AJ anytime soon. (Unless Orton wins this world cup shenanigans).
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Originally Posted by Onceinawhile
Yes Bryan is seems really good guy with good morals.
Not really sure who will be next in line for AJ, wouldn't be against Joe winning but I doubt he will,Orton like you say is probably the top heel on Smackdown but I don't see the point in giving AJ this long title reign just to put Orton over.
Only other top heel I could challenging AJ would be The Miz.
That’s me quit watching rawQuote:
Originally Posted by hfc rd
Putting the title back on Brock is a joke.
Even better Shane just won the world cup 😂😂Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveHFC
Shawn looks awful without his long hair.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibs#1
He does look weird still looks in fantastic shape from the pictures I've seen,I'm not actually watching tonight WWE cancelled my subscription to the network for some reason. Think I'll just wait till Royal Rumble time to renew it don't think I'm missing much just now.Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveHFC
Especially with Brock part time champion again.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibs#1
I hope that miz was honestly injured and unable to take part otherwise, that is the worst booking decision since, the match before when brock took the title.
Even worse when Seth is intercontinental champion and tag team, meaning one of those belts will be tied up too.
Was going to watch Crown Jewel last night but after hearing that both Lesnar won the UC and Shane won the WC, I didn’t bother in the end. Absolutely pathetic!
Considering just packing it in with WWE altogether as it’s just getting worse.
Something has to be done with WWE. I used to stay up for Raw and Smackdown. But i'll just catch up with them on youtube the following morning. Not worth losing sleep over anymore. I'll still watch the PPV's live.Quote:
Originally Posted by hfc rd
We need another wrestling company to become as big as WWE. NJPW is that company.
Yeah I do the same Steve. Don’t bother staying up for Raw & Smackdown and just catch the YouTube highlights later in the week. The PPV I do watch from time to time but not bothered if I miss one. Will only watch Wrestlemania live.Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveHFC
In regards to your 2nd paragraph, whatever happened to TNA? I remember it used to be a very good wrestling company when it started and was hoping for a feud between WWE vs TNA to erupt. Similar to WWF vs WCW during the attitude era. Now it’s nowhere to be seen and many of its best wrestlers have either switched over to WWE (AJ Styles, Samoa Joe etc) or retired.
TNA is called impact wrestling these days. One of their recent ppv's was meant to be one of the best shows of the year.Quote:
Originally Posted by hfc rd
I would love if all the other major wrestling companies merged to compete with WWE.
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Originally Posted by SteveHFC
Ahh right, I didn’t know that. Cheers 👍🏾Was very good between 2005-2010 and was making its self known in the wrestling world. Had a very good talented roster and the matches were very entertaining to watch as well.
Would absolutely love to see that too. Would be class if it did happen.
I've stopped watching it. I just catch up online. I do like watching the big 4 ppvs though so I'll probably watch SS.
Becky lynch apparently out of survivors series with a concussion. Which is a disaster as she's on fire right now.
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Originally Posted by Onceinawhile
Looks like she broke her nose last night on that Raw invasion.
If what you are saying is true and she is indeed out of Survivor Series, won’t be surprised if it is Charlotte Flaur that now faces Rousey at Survivor Series.
It is true and Charlotte will face Rousey. Could see Becky coming and destroying the two of them and causing a Dq keeps everyone looking good.Becky is the best thing in WWE right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by hfc rd
Also now have Daniel Bryan as WWE Champ now. Can't say I saw that one coming.
Really hope we get Becky v Ronda at WM35 instead of Charlotte v Ronda.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibs#1
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Originally Posted by hibs#1
Enjoyed SD. Agree, I love this new side of Becky.
Neither did I expect Daniel Bryan to beat AJ and win the title nor seen that heel turn coming 😲
Becky should vacate and stay out until a surprise return at the rumble, win it and choose Ronda for mania Imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveHFC
A d bry heel turn though? Not sure I get it, especially one so quick.
One rumour I saw said that Bryan winning was just so Styles wouldn’t break lesnar’s modern day world title record. Sadly it’s not hard to believe that.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibs#1
I did also see that he’s been pushing to go heel for a while, that could be interesting.
Charlotte’s assault last night on Ronda Rousey at Survivor Series 😮
Didn’t see that coming even though I enjoyed it 😁
Ronda v Becky v Charlotte at wrestlemania 35. :hyper
I'm in 😀. Vince going to be on Raw tonight for some big shake up,hopefully not an other false dawn.Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveHFC
Some very good matches at Royal Rumble this year.
Yes looks a very good card.id even say the smackdown tag match could be fun as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveHFC
Thinking of putting a wee bet on the royal rumble this year. Who do you think will win it?
Rollins or McIntyre.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibeesmad
Lot of people saying the same thing. How about Strowman? Seems to have been backed a lot after recent eventsQuote:
Originally Posted by hibs#1
Check sky bet later in the week mate. So many request a bet choices.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibeesmad
This came in from last year's rumble.
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Very possible but I just don't see it happening. I think they just see Strowman as the new Big Show might win a title here and there but won't ever be the main guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibeesmad
Will do 👍Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveHFC
Depends what happens in the title match. If asuka wins that, then I think becky wins the rumble.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibeesmad
If lynch wins the title, then I think Charlotte wins the rumble.
Rollins to win the men's rumble and mcintyre most eliminations.
Ronda leaving WWE after wrestlemania and wants to put over Becky.
Roman reigns not out of the question yet.
Anyone else staying up for the rumble tonight. Should be good.
Expecting any surprise returns, especially in the Rumble? - The Rock?
Dean Ambrose leaving in april.
Gutted.
He is just a number of superstars to have a requested to leave looks as well though AEW will be getting some big hitters and looks in good shape WWE really needs to up.its game and quickly. I mean brock retaining again really.Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveHFC
Hideo itami leaving as well now.
Can generally see AEW getting big as wwe in the future.
Don't know about as big WWE are huge if they get some good TV contracts they definitely can become the number 2 company worldwide. One advantage they have is the Khan's are loadedQuote:
Originally Posted by SteveHFC
Should have put a bet on 😂Quote:
Originally Posted by Onceinawhile
Who we thinking Daniel Bryan will face at Wrestlemania? Can't see many options for a 1on1 match for him on smackdown. And I don't think they will do other multi man match so close to elimination chamber.
Cena.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibs#1
Brock Lesnar supposedly going to be in talks with AEW.
Would be good for both parties IMO, get him away from the sports entertainment side of things, every time he faces more of an indie style wrestler he looks a different man.
Kurt Angle to address his future on Monday.
Brock, Kurt, Nakamura, Sanity, Ambrose etc all talks in leaving.
Efe to AEW? :hyperQuote:
Originally Posted by SteveHFC
Ive just been having a look through the other sports section and come across this thread. Ive never had an interest in this sort of sport as Ive always believed its just entertainment and fake. A quick search on the internet just now pretty much backs this up. So my question is if this "sport" is fake, why would anyone in their right mind put bets on?
Ah, the old "fake" description again! :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Bangkok Hibby
To answer your question, I suppose people would bet on it for many of the same reasons they bet on sport. For example; it enhances their enjoyment of watching the event or, based on what they know about the event, they think they can predict the outcome.
Hi, I dont mean to disrespect your sport but if there is even an element of "fixing" shall we say then betting on it must surely equate to pure luck. Other sports betting at least you can study form to an extent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Future17
Anyway I dont know enough about it to comment with any real knowledge. Just wondering 😀
No disrespect detected and I totally understand where you're coming from. The "fake" description is a bit too simplistic for me though considering what the guys and girls who take part put their bodies through.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bangkok Hibby
Vince McMahon calls it "sports entertainment" rather than a sport because, as you've said, the outcome is pre-determined.
With regard to the betting side, you can study form in a strange way; it's not so much to do with the performances of the wrestlers, as it is to do with the pattern of results, the direction of the company, upcoming events etc. You might also factor in things like where the event is being held, the wrestlers contract situation etc.
It's much the same as people putting bets on outcome of soap opera storylines "who was the murderer" & "who survived the big explosion". The outcomes are scripted like a TV show, the physical nature is real hence why it's still classed as a sport by many. The feats of athleticism in some cases are pretty impressive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bangkok Hibby
If it entertains people and doesn't do any harm then I don't get the issue over wrestling. The betting thing, I can kind of understand, but people bet on Strictly, Bake Off, The Apprentice etc. and often these are filmed in advance. Same idea.
I've won a few hundred on 2 wrestling events over the past year. :cbQuote:
Originally Posted by Northernhibee
Must have been large stakes to win that amount at those odds. ;-)Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveHFC
Had a 50/1 come in last year one event and had a fiver on this year's rumble at 18/1.Quote:
Originally Posted by Future17
Sorry, was a bad joke on the "evens" typo.Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveHFC
Yeah noticed my mistake earlier. :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Future17
Anyone staying up for EC tonight. Not many matches look appealing.
Mens chamber match should be very good other than that the card is poor looking.Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveHFC