Hayes says his agent has talked to Aberdeen but he has yet to decide what he's doing - Aberdeen are presenting it as a done deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elephant Stone
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Hayes says his agent has talked to Aberdeen but he has yet to decide what he's doing - Aberdeen are presenting it as a done deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elephant Stone
Aberdeen say they've agreed a deal with his agent, I really don't think that any reluctance to confirm that he's leaving Inverness when speaking to a newspaper from Inverness can show Aberdeen to be lying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peevemor
Hayes said on Twitter that he hasn't made any decisions. Aberdeen have jumped the gun.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elephant Stone
I know who I believe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beefster
Waiting for the Paw Broon statement telling us that he called Terry Butcher for a chat about Hayes as thats the proper thing to do..........:wink:
spot on mate, can just hear him now " we conduct ourselves properly here" "wid never go behind anyones back!" blah blah blah:greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by At The Edge
Vigours re-signs for ICT
Is that Ian Vigurs? Thought he was with Ross County? Is he back at Caley?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibs7
Edit. Just been told he's staying at County.
signed a one year contract at county
Oops meant county.
I've seen Benji's name pop up a couple of times on Facebook and the like. Rumored to be in talks, but probably just babble. :dunno:
Sorry if aforementioned. :aok:
Just on twitter...
Keith Downie @STVkeith
Hearts have joined the race to sign Coventry's James McPake - despite the defender spending the second half of last season at Hibs.
talks wi who? Real Madrid??Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibs-1875
Aha, Hibs, if I wasn't clear :aok:Quote:
Originally Posted by brianmc
Again, no real source, just a rumor I've seen floating around pal.
That'll pee the jambos off that have told me for the last 6 months that McPake is utter gash and wouldn't get near their bench never mind the starting 11.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bighoose
:trumpet: the lot of them.
i'm sure securing carrier bag would be more a priority for them?
No need to explain pal, nobody in their right mind will take that one seriously.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibs-1875
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Originally Posted by Bighoose
C'mon Petrie, get a deal done! :I'm waiti
I will genuinely hit the beeping roof if they are 'allowed' to sign him through RP mismanagementQuote:
Originally Posted by Bighoose
Come on Hibs, get it done. In Rod we trust........
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Originally Posted by SouthMoroccoStu
Michael o'connor tonight signed for rotherham on a free contract. Offered more cash and was close by to were he stayed too. Irish contact texted me a couple of hrs ago witht the news.
He probably got it off the BBC. They reported it at tea-time.Quote:
Originally Posted by muirhousehibby
Yes, would be embarrassing.Quote:
Originally Posted by SouthMoroccoStu
As for the Benji rumour, doubt this is true but if it then then all I can say is please God no :bitchy:!
How is it RP mismanagement if we dont sign him? We all know Hearts pay well above what we, or they, can afford. If hearts are looking to sign him then he will take the money they offer over ours, as three of their starting 11 in the cup final did. There is no loyalty in football other than from us, the fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by SouthMoroccoStu
If he signs for them, he signs for them.
c'mon folks....It's all about the Balance Sheet.
Let's see what cheapo deals are available end of August.
Its much simpler than that, its about who pays the bills. Vlad's companies have written off over £16m of their extravagance in the last two seasons alone. Thats more than we, or they, brought in. Thats why he will sign for them if they make an offer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Craig_in_Prague
Whether thats right or not is currently, given Rangers situation, open to debate but nonetheless thats the reality.
I hope you are wrong. This time we need to have the majority of the squad in place before our first pre-season kick about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Craig_in_Prague
The yams are pobably still paying more than us, but it won't be by much. They are a hopeless business model and it would seem that even Vlad has woken up to the fact that they need to start living within their means from now on. Aye they have a (slightly) larger average gate, but they also have horrendous debts to service. It's gonna be interesting to see how they line up next season. Hopefully without McPake.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaiser1962
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Originally Posted by Kaiser1962
Sad but true. I would hope that this is an opportunity for the board to show us that they are serious about sorting the team out. McPake is a key signing - he's popular with the fans and has proven his worth at this level.Quote:
Originally Posted by 3pm
Seeing him sign across the city would be yet another nail in the board's coffin, regardless of the statements about finances.
If they want him they will have to pay. They also will have to pay more than the 100 grand we'd get him for as that is a special fee included in his loan contract. Can't see them shelling out 2-3 hundred grand.
There's a long thread overby on their possible signing of McPake. As you would expect, 99% of the posters tear him to shreds and say they don't want him but their protests are so loud and the detail so deep that it is clear that they are wetting themselves at the circumstances of taking him from under our noses. Petrie is driven by money and business but surely even he can see the benefit of nailing down McPake right now from both the playing point of view and the sorely needed morale boost it would give the fans after the nightmare of last seson.
It would be an enormous kick in the baws for us if after getting horsed in the final off of THEM our board was then to lay down meekly and allow the Yams to swipe McPake from under our noses. I for one would be ****in furious :grr::fuming::grr:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim44
So at what point should we allow what we can afford to pay to be dicated by some other team who don't care about debt.Quote:
Originally Posted by basehibby
You can't, you stick to your upper level and if that turns out not be enough then tough, that's the reality of the situation and the Board would be failing in their duties if they did not see it this way.
We lost the final but let's not lose our grasp on reality eh?
Someone else on his feed said that it was dependant on Zaliukus going to Sheffield United and Downie said that this was correct - hopefully the fact that they didn't get promoted and have to cut their wage budget will scupper that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bighoose
The 100k for mcpake was only for us right? Which means "they" would have to pay more for him right? Anyone know what the asking price is outwith ourselves?
One thing that may work in our favour is that if what we have heard on here is true, i.e. he is looking for a 3 year deal and stability for his family, then he may not fancy signing for a club who hasn't paid it's wages on time on a regular basis - and who lost a player last year (Stevenson) who was looking for stability for him and his pregnant wife. I could just be clutching at straws, of course.
It's also interesting that Paolo Sergio is quoted in this morning's Metro as saying that he wants to know what kind of budget he will have for next season before committing himself to a new contract - so he obviously cannot be involved in any pursuit of McPake.
Andy. Appreciate all of the above but the reality is we can only afford peanuts and we all know what that buys. I was advised this morning that the upper limit is £1500 p/w but I would assume that there will be win and play bonuses above that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy74
We will still be scraping around bringing in players at the end of the transfer window who no one else wants. We will get angry when they do not perform to the standard we would like and the board will come out and say its the managers team and he has brought in the new players. The reality will be that he has not brought in the players he wanted due to financial constraints and has had to seettle for second or third choice players. I cannot see us improving on this strategy and we can only flirt with relegation so many times before we drop and to be honest I would not fancy our chances of coming straight back up.
We could end up losing a lot more if we do not spend sufficient amounts to stay clear of the relegation zone and aim for some european dosh.
Yes, I think you are clutching at straws. Let's not kid ourselves yet again that the Jambo's 'fitness for purpose' chestnut will inhibit their progress in footballing terms and prevent them from signing players. The new rules announced yesterday about non-payment of players will put an end to their 'calculated risks' in this area. Whether we like their style or not, they function more than adequately.
The most factually correct post I've read on here for a long time (well apart from mine of course!!!).Quote:
Originally Posted by 3pm
My sentiments as well. If he chooses them over us then that is his call and there is nothing we can do about it. There is limits how far you can go and although I want him signed as our captain I think we should make him a good offer and if it doesn't work we move on.
So what better way for an agent to get the best deal possible than leak a story to the papers about the nearest rivals being interested in signing him. :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by matty_f
This is my worry as well, though I can't say I'm privy to any info on salary limits etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by GordonHFC
The problem the Board and Fenlon have is that they want a top 4 finish but won't/can't give the spending power required to bring in players good enough to compete there. We're using a big budget but spreading it too thinly.
IMHO, the board have a duty to re-consider the long term policy and take a short term hit with the view that we'll need to spend less in coming seasons if we get it right now, than we will if we carry on with this horrendous revolving door policy where we replace poor players with equally poor players each transfer window in the hope that something will stick.
There are loads of things that the board should be considering (if they haven't already), off the top of my head they could:
Borrow the money either from the bank or STF if he's willing
Seek finance through tie-ins with businesses - local, national, and international companies are out there and with the right pitch and idea behind it they can and will attract funding.
Put out a share issue - I'm not an expert in this, but I'd think that folk would buy into it.
Discounted block tickets - Say 5 game package but bought up front with a discount for buying in advance. Not as good as a season ticket but would get money in immediately and also get folk through the gates.
Organise a friendly against a decent opponent with the entire gate (after expenses) going to Fenlon's budget and set out that this is what the event is for in advance so that there's an incentive for folk to go.
Release an item or range of items for purchase in the store where all proceeds go to Fenlon.
Some of these may be totally unworkable, but that's knocked up in five minutes. I'd hope that the Board would have the accumen to be able to come up with realistic and workable options to raise funds.
Well, we can afford what we can afford, that's reality.Quote:
Originally Posted by GordonHFC
There's no limit by the way by player, the manager can use the overall budget how he chooses. I know that from the board, agents, players.
I think our problem has been not in the way we go about signing players or the money we play, the manager's just haven't done well enough finding the right players or the right characters.
It has to ve recalled that we have had the likes of Jones, Bamba, Murphy, Stokes, Miller, Riordan, O'Connor, Zemmama, Benji, Shiels, Boozy and so on signed within our budget and not really paying fees. There's no reason we can't do that again and I've faith in Fenlon to know what he's after and get the right players in.
I'm not going to panic all summer though, particularly during the holidays!
Fenlon will also be patient - his last season in Ireland he had no squad at all up until about a week before the season and waited for the right players he wanted to be available. He had no budget and got that team playing and comfortably mid table on about £250,000 total wages for the squad for the whole year.
:grr: you can't go quoting facts like that on .net when it doesnt support the arguments of board bashers :rules:Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy74
:greengrin
I agree its about the manager using the budget he has (advantage being there is less baggage in terms of attitudes / cimmitted budget than for a long number of years) well and then poving he has the ability to make a team that is 'greater than the sum of the parts'
We have had years when we could say we had good players...but poor teams....
Look at ICT / St Jonstone / Motherwell as examples of creating teams that exceed the individuals....if PF can do that we will do well due to resources we have...if he cant we will be back to square one looking for another manager
So basically if PF wanted he could have someone on £5k a week as long as his overall budget stayed within the set limits. That makes sense, so it should be quality over quantity. Supported by very good young players in case of injuries. I like that way of thinking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy74
It's the way it's been though and hasn't been used properly yet!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibs7
I suppose though we have had the likes of Riordan and O'Connor who will have been on decent money, balanced by others in the squad like Stevenson, Wotherspoon etc who will probably still be on minimal pay.
CC talked a lot about quality over quantity but didn't deliver it. I hope Fenlon does.
I'm with you, I'd have 3 or 4 players on very good money in key positions along wth some good kids and some good signings from lower divisions.
Right, so (I'm going to use a ridiculous example here), our budget is like FIFA 12?
Ie, you have a slider which you can move about to change the ratio of wages:transfer fee's?
FIFA folk ken whits goin on :greengrin
BTW if Mcpake does sign for Hearts (which I seriously doubt will happen anyway) who would be your next best signing? Pascali from Killie?
That Heiridersan (sp) from Portsmouth? He was on loan at Coventry this season. Fantasy signing I know....
Well, Aberdeen made a mess of it. That's the good thing about Hibs, they don't say anything unless there's something definite to say.
http://sport.stv.tv/football/clubs/a...medium=twitter
just signed a 3yr deal with killieQuote:
Originally Posted by Jones28
Good point likes........10/10 for observation!Quote:
Originally Posted by 3pm
:greengrin
Let's hope PF sees if that way, core of the team on very good money, the rest as you say, it does pay dividends, take McPake and Hanlon as an example.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy74
It can be done within a decent wage structure.
Football is a great game, but a ridiculous business. Look at Brendan Rodgers, just going to Liverpool having done so well at Swansea - ten years ago Swansea were one game away from being relegated into the conference, but having got their act together (including building a new stadium) they have had a meteoric rise to their 12th place finish in the EPL last year. Conversely, Liverpool spent £100M on players last summer, yet finished 8th - and Robbie Fowler is now saying the following: -
"The new manager will need to bring in new players again to take Liverpool from a top-eight club to a top-four club. That's going to be really difficult. It's a massive challenge."
Whilst John Barnes said: -
"I always say that when you have a philosophy on football, you need the players who can instil that. Are they the type of players who can play the way Rodgers wants them to? They will have to have some adjustment."We have to give the situation time to develop. You have to come to a point where you can't keep changing managers year in, year out. It's been 20 years since we have won league.
"We've been chopping and changing. We need to do what is in the best interests of the club, even if that means we don't qualify for the Champions League in the next three years."
Swansea have a limited budget that they have stuck rigidly to, but have continually got the right managers in over the last few years (Martinez, Sousa and Rodgers) - conversely Liverpool have a huge budget and spent ridiculous amounts of money, yet we have two former players saying that it's a massive challenge to get back into the top four, and that they may to go several years without CL football in order to progress. Whilst it is indeed tough at the top of the EPL, it is utterly ridiculous for Liverpool to be potentially written off as serious contenders for 4th place in the EPL for a number of years, given the amount of money that they have spent on players in recent years.
Now obviously the EPL is a world away from the SPL, but it's all relative, and the rise of teams like Swansea and Norwich (who were never in relegation trouble, as opposed to big spending QPR, who escaped going down on the last day) are proof that getting the right manager(s) in is crucial to the direction and philosophy of a football club - at the top end Man City have shown that spending crazy money only works when you have the right man in place. Liverpool have proven that throwing money around guarantees nothing without the right man in charge (and they're far from the only ones).
In the SPL, Hearts have been quite similar to Liverpool (relatively, in recent years) in that they've enjoyed some cup success but their league form has been disappointing, finishing nowhere near the big guns, bar one season (you can even stretch the analogy to bringing back legendary managers who were previously successful, and it not working out). St. Johnstone are more like your Swansea, who took several years to get to where they want to be (several years spent in the first division), but beginning with Coyle, through McInnes, and now (it seems) with Lomas, have continually got their managerial appointments correct, and flourished within a strict budget.
We are somewhere between the two - nowhere near the crazy budget of Hearts, but certainly have more spending power than St. Johnstone. We have suffered from making the wrong managerial choices too many times in succession, and the constant cycle of acquiring new managers and signing new players, whilst paying out to rid ourselves of the old ones, has seen us arrive where we are. We all acknowledged that after Calderwood we needed to pick a manager who was going to instill all the qualities that we have been lacking for the last few years, and hopefully build us up (gradually, if necessary) over the next few years - hopefully Fenlon is that man, though significant improvements will need to be seen next season. I like him, he seems like the kind of character that we need going forward, and I very much hope that he is.
Even a giant like Liverpool now look as though they are trying to do this, hiring a manager who they hope will gradually lead them to greater success and restore them to where they believe that they should be - and they may well be looking at the model of a much smaller club as a template for their own success. We need quality players in, of that there is no doubt - but working the market properly is far more likely to lead to success than just spending lots of money. We can learn far more from the Swanseas and St. Johnstones of this world than we can the likes of Liverpool and Hearts.
Whether we have the management team and scouting network to deliver is another matter - but fingers crossed we can start progressing from here on in. It can be, and has been, done.
Good post and why I can't understand some of the nonsense already being spoken about Fenlon running out of time. He needs to be given the job of building this team properly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stevie Reid
By the way has Brian Murphy, QPR goalkeeper been mentioned as a target yet?
I would be surprised if Paolo Sergio is still there next season, let alone looking for players.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stevie Reid
I have been told by a very good source (boring I know :rolleyes:, but he is usually right!) that Sergio only accepted the lower wage at Hearts when he came, as he was still receiving payments by his previous club in honour of his terminated contract. Now that these payments from his previous club have stopped he is struggling to stay at Hearts, especially as they have offered less than what he is currently on.
Added to this, there is no way they will be paying transfer fees for anyone.
Meanwhile the Belfast News Letter reports a number of teams in England and Scotland are interested in signing out-of-contract Rangers striker David Healy.
The all-time top goalscorer for the Northern Ireland national team is a target for Crawley Town and Fleetwood Town, while one SPL side is also said to be in the running for the 32-year-old’s signature.
Hmmmm..... would we?
linky - http://sport.stv.tv/football/clubs/r...medium=twitter
i heard today we were close to signing Neil Alexander, no inside knowledge or anything just wot i heard.
dunno if he is out of contract or not?
We may be due some cash from Bamba being sold: -
http://www.scotsman.com/sport/footba...sale-1-2330421
[QUOTE=Sir Alf R;3250754]Meanwhile the Belfast News Letter reports a number of teams in England and Scotland are interested in signing out-of-contract Rangers striker David Healy.
The all-time top goalscorer for the Northern Ireland national team is a target for Crawley Town and Fleetwood Town, while one SPL side is also said to be in the running for the 32-year-old’s signature.
Hmmmm..... would we?
Its St Mirren who are after him
[QUOTE=Liam Miller;3250779
Its St Mirren who are after him[/QUOTE]
ah.... :agree:
Me too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elephant Stone
http://sport.stv.tv/football/clubs/a...-hayes-signing
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Originally Posted by Stevie Reid
Kerchiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing ........................ The tache strikes again ! :greengrin
Sorry but thats guff.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy74
I don't for a minute think he will sign for them regardless. But we talk about changing the culture of being a soft touch. Well that can be said right form the very top. People are already p***** off, rightly or wrongly, that they've had to fork out for season tickets for a final ticket. Every single thing at the club is so fragile at the minute. The importance of signing Mcpake cannot be understated IMO in the outlook of our season.
Its not ridiculous sums of money we're asking for is it. Supposing he is interested, lose a proportionally bigger chunk of the budget, and have the man to build the back four around. An provide the fans with a bawhair of enthusiasm for the new season. To see that the club is doing something.
Rubbish rubbish attitude.
[Look at ICT / St Jonstone / Motherwell as examples of creating teams that exceed the individuals....if PF can do that we will do well due to resources we have...if he cant we will be back to square one looking for another manager[/QUOTE]
You are quite right. Stuart McCall was quoted after a game that they lost, admitting that they had a squad of average players and it only took a couple playing off-form for things to go badly.
We need a manager like McCall that can organise a team and get them all working for each other. He also needs to do a Mowbray can unearth a gem every now and then to generate cash when sold on.
Let's give Pat the benefit of the doubt and at least a couple of seasons to get it right.
I's not guff, it's reality, I agree with all you say about his importance on a number of fronts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fraz1875
All I've said though is that there has to be a limit to what you can be pushed on. If Hearts say they will give him 8k a week should we just keep beating the offer? We pay what we can afford to our we can't sign him, same as any player.
It's nothing to do with attitude, its about the reality of what cash we have any how you can use it.
Last published accounts state that the Yams are outspending us by a considerable amount. They didnt really trade profitably, despite their propoganda.Quote:
Originally Posted by BarneyK
Yes the ancient motto of the SPL's doormats and perennial losers.Quote:
Originally Posted by 3pm
We have just been pumped 5-1 in a humiliating fashion by our City rivals who had several players in their team they had out bid us for. How about Hibs start showing a desire to win and actually make sure we start the season with the man Fenlon thought important enough to make captain whilst on loan.
Anyone got a very worrying feeling re the deal for Clancy suddenly going quiet?
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Originally Posted by Rawr.rar
You think? As soon as I saw the story on the BBC website I knew someone would gazump us. Someone always does. Fenlon will be scrabbling around at the beginning of August just like Hughes, just like Calderwood, just like Mixu in the past. I don't think anything has changed at ER.
Think theres gonna btrouble at millQuote:
Originally Posted by Doddie
If the poster is correct re Alexander then I would be v happy at that (cannot see it tho).
As for budgets etc. For me I don't care who they sign as long as they come in and do a good job. Think some folk in here have delusions of granduier. Doesn't matter who we sign they won't be happy.
Yeah I want a winning team but that us going to take a bit if time.... Strong spine if a team and build from there.
Budgets mean nowt unless you spend it wisely. I trust PF to do the job and I am sure he will get us sorted before the start of pre season.
I've said similar in the last few weeks. The loser mentality is rife at the club - from chairman, board, players and right down to support.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spike Mandela
100% correctQuote:
Originally Posted by Spike Mandela
I agree Alexander is a good goalie and as he comes from Midlothian, has a close knit family Hibs could suit him. Does worry me that he seems happy enough to be a number 2 at a club though. Does he have the right drive and will to win to fit in with the (hopefully) new culture at Easter Road? Bit like Newcastle's 2nd choice goalie (Harper?) who was happy enough to be number 2 behind Shay Given for years. Didn't hack it when required every week and has now been passed again by Krul.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aldo
Not really. I've been so impressed with him that I thought he was a midfielder and still played for Killie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rawr.rar
If he does arrive at ER here's hoping he makes more of an impression!
I understand what your saying Beefster but I reckon most of the fans have higher aspirations than the players or board. Certainly the standards we expect are higher than what has been delivered.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beefster
It's that shortfall which has caused much of the disappointment, anger and apathy IMO. The fans expect, demand better. :dunno:
if he signs for them itl be another massive kick in the baws from hearts before the seasons even started. I realy despair at hibs sometime
Yup, we're at rock-bottom and the old ways that have gone before simply cannot apply any more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beefster
He's already signed. Hibs just not released the news yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rawr.rar
Agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beefster
Seems like a few folk are already preparing for, and accepting, a continuation of the same unsuccessful recruitment policies of years gone by.
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Originally Posted by Coco Bryce
What about Cairney?
I thought it had been quoted before that Alexander was on £11K a week plus £1K bench money.
To sign him am guessing we would need to make him one of the highest earners (even although nothing like he was on) but my concern with that is would he do a Jim Leighton and save you 15-20 points a season, personally I don't think so. If you can find a keeper who can do that good and well, if not why spend a big chunk of the budget on someone IMO is not really much different to what we have.
Maybe some think there is nothing wrong with the actual process or timings, just that the previous mangers have done a bad job in identifying the correct players?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
I don't see the need to bring the pre season Hibs.net panic even further into the holiday period just because we have a bit more to do. The market still works the same way and I'm more confident that Fenlon knows what we need.
I also rather suspect that a couple of the players mentioned already are lined up to be confirmed once the window actually opens and when they are around from holidays to actually sign.
Okay, so what is your max weekly figure for signing him? Do you have one or just more than anyone else will pay?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spike Mandela
There is considerable irony in this post given that it is not even the end of May and the window doesn't open until tomorrow, not to mention the fact that McPake hasn't signed for Hearts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
Other people may be preparing themselves for more disappointments in the transfer market - you are already criticising the club for the same failings (that haven't been made so far this close season), which is jumping the gun to say the least.
You can't recognise the possibility that not signing the right players is a symptom of a number of factors, including the way that we seem to conduct our transfer business and the fact that we're usually scrabbling about after the season starts looking for free agents and trialists?Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy74
The managers will have some blame to share in but so do those running the club. To try and pin it all on the managers just weakens your argument IMHO. These problems have been going on far too long to be down to a procession of unrelated individuals all making the same mistakes, whilst the individuals who have been there from start to finish are entirely without blame.
The window doesn't open until July 1, according to Wikipedia. Either way, there's nothing stopping anyone signing players now - they just won't be able to register them until the window opens.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stevie Reid
:agree: Spot on!Quote:
Originally Posted by Beefster
I'd agree with that as well.:agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by Beefster
IF our man ROD lets Hearts humiliate us yet again and lets them snatch McPake it will see crowds tumble even further and be the latest in a number of embarrassing incidents
Kyle
Barr
Hamill
Webster
3 seasons destroying us where we have deserved hee haw due to the inept displays
the biggest humiliation possible in the cup final
I've lived through the bad times of their 22 in a row and all the other big undefeated runs against us but i've got to say this is the most humiliated i've ever felt as far as they are concerned. Even all the Jambos I know now just feel sorry for me instead of taking the Pi double s !!!
ROD don't let us down again... if you do it will be obvious to all - that as i have suspected for years ... you do not give an eff about the fans...
isnt adam le fondre supposed to be signing anytime soon? :wink:
If we can't persuade a man we made Captain, who is clearly loved by the fans and who has proven he is the standard required to improve the club then we are in big trouble. Yes I accept that should say a Celtic comes in the sense has to prevail and we have to step aside but with Hearts openly declaring the need to cost cut I don't believe we should lose out on this deal to ANY other Scottish club.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy74
We have a budget which Fenlon can use as he sees fit and getting McPake should be his top priority and indeed should be offered the top wage. However the squad is such a mess and so many players have to be replaced that the top wage we can offer will be diluted by the sheer number of players we have to sign.
I fear we may lose out on McPake for the reasons you suggest and iI also believe on the evidence of last year that if this is the trend all new player negotiations take then we will be relegated.
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Originally Posted by Spike Mandela
I dont know how you get round that though Spike without jeapordising the future of the club.
You are making a lot of assumptions about how you think Hibs act in the windows that I would largely disagree with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beefster
I'm sure we will make every effort to sign him with what wechave to play with. If any club, Hearts included, decide to pay more than we can then that's tough. That's not a failure on Hibs part.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spike Mandela
Unfortunately much of the evidence favours Beefster's view of the world. We're being turned down by too many players in favour of other SPL sides for it to be seen as just a coincidence now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy74
With every season that passes Hibs seem to manage to make themselves less and less attractive as a proposition for players as a potential club to join. Right now our stock must be as low as it's been for very many years. Partly that's down to the revolving door that's been installed in the Manager's Office.
Therefore, whether the Board likes it or not they may have to be prepared to offer more money to draw to the club a nucleus of key signings that will in turn encourage others to join.
The fervent hope is that in doing so they will bring us some much needed stability.
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Originally Posted by BEEJ
Just reading on BBC site that Dundee Utd have signed Mark Millar from Falkirk. Saw him play a few times and he's a good Midfielder who I think would walk in to our team. Out of contract and low wages, wonder if we were interested?
Ronaldinho has just been released due to unpaid wages.... PETRIE GET IT DONE!! :wink:
Never knew he was at the Yams...:cbQuote:
Originally Posted by Hibee Ryan
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Originally Posted by HIBERNIAN-0762
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At least he had the meatballs to stand up to his club about it unlike the Yams from the pink bus shelter:agree:
That’s partly to do with the fact hibs seems to be the dumping ground of problematic players with bad attitutes. We’re signing folk that are not good role models drug addicts, binge drinkers and its never been sorted since john Collins left. Training ground bust ups, in trouble with the law etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by BEEJ
Hibs are also puruing a deal for Slovak international defender Lubo Michalik. (The Daily Mail)
Taken from BBC gossip.
6.4 28 year old central defender.