What's the chances of fans going back in September?

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Originally Posted by The dalmeny

let you into a secret, thousands of people die every week anyway.

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When did Donald Trump join the forum?????

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Originally Posted by PaulSmith

As a society the majority seem fairly comfortable with lockdown and I don’t see millions pushing the narrative that we need to get back to normal.

Unless that malaise changes then we can kiss goodbye to ever going back to Easter Rd, if we still have a club.

It’s up to the population of this country what happens next when the vulnerable are vaccinated and deaths reduce by 99%.

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I think its more that people believe that the lockdown is the best thing to do in the current circumstances. I would say the majority would be very keen to get back to a normality along the lines of how things were pre-2020 but understand that can only be done at the right time.

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Originally Posted by The dalmeny

let you into a secret, thousands of people die every week anyway.

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Oooft, clanger alert.

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Originally Posted by G15 Hibs

I think its more that people believe that the lockdown is the best thing to do in the current circumstances. I would say the majority would be very keen to get back to a normality along the lines of how things were pre-2020 but understand that can only be done at the right time.

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I don't see any need to fight against the politicians on this one as they don't want there to be lockdowns either.

I can understand their cautious, under-promise approach here but I've little doubts that once vaccinations are jabbed and if that leads to the expected fall in cases and deaths then these restrictions will start being lifted at the appropriate pace.

Prof Leitch saying on Radio Scotland that crowds 'could' return for next season but that it remains a big if.

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Originally Posted by G B Young

Prof Leitch saying on Radio Scotland that crowds 'could' return for next season but that it remains a big if.

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Did he mean full capacity might return next season or just some fans?

If it's the former then I would agree that is a big "if" but if it's the latter then that's really worrying. If there's no crowds at all before August 2022 then many clubs will be in serious trouble.

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Originally Posted by Sir David Gray

Did he mean full capacity might return next season or just some fans?

If it's the former then I would agree that is a big "if" but if it's the latter then that's really worrying. If there's no crowds at all before August 2022 then many clubs will be in serious trouble.

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From The Times:

National clinical director Leitch believes it is "credible" for all levels to be back playing next season but added: "Crowds is much less predictable.
"We will have to see what the vaccine does, we'll have to see if we've managed to not import the virus again with travel restrictions. If we get that right as a nation, yes, there could be crowds in September."

Asked about top microbiologist Professor Hugh Pennington's assertion that fans will only be present at Wembley to see Scotland face England at the Euro 2020 finals this summer if Covid-19 statistics fall to 10% of current levels, Leitch said: "As it stands now, there would be no crowd at Scotland against England, but five/six months away, I'm very hopeful that we will have got the prevalence down considerably and that the game will at least get the go ahead."

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Originally Posted by G B Young

From The Times:

National clinical director Leitch believes it is "credible" for all levels to be back playing next season but added: "Crowds is much less predictable.
"We will have to see what the vaccine does, we'll have to see if we've managed to not import the virus again with travel restrictions. If we get that right as a nation, yes, there could be crowds in September."

Asked about top microbiologist Professor Hugh Pennington's assertion that fans will only be present at Wembley to see Scotland face England at the Euro 2020 finals this summer if Covid-19 statistics fall to 10% of current levels, Leitch said: "As it stands now, there would be no crowd at Scotland against England, but five/six months away, I'm very hopeful that we will have got the prevalence down considerably and that the game will at least get the go ahead."

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Doesn't really say too much really.

If there's no crowds at all next season, clubs will fold.

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Originally Posted by Sir David Gray

Doesn't really say too much really.

If there's no crowds at all next season, clubs will fold.

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Absolutely
If it’s reduced capacity, will be season ticket holders only, with now away fans, although I think we’ve said this on quite a few occasions

England hoping to have some crowds back in from May. Stadiums with capacities of more than 40,000 can have up to 10,000. Stadiums smaller than that can have a quarter of their stadiums full. All restrictions gone by the end of June.

Interesting to see what is announced for us tomorrow.

Jason Leitch said a few weeks back he hoped some fans would be back by September. Big difference that, really hope we are going to get some positive news tomorrow.

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Originally Posted by bingo70

England hoping to have some crowds back in from May. Stadiums with capacities of more than 40,000 can have up to 10,000. Stadiums smaller than that can have a quarter of their stadiums full. All restrictions gone by the end of June.

Interesting to see what is announced for us tomorrow.

Jason Leitch said a few weeks back he hoped some fans would be back by September. Big difference that, really hope we are going to get some positive news tomorrow.

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Best hope is that Sturgeon throws a flakey with the election coming up so implements some limited relaxations.

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Originally Posted by PaulSmith

As a society the majority seem fairly comfortable with lockdown and I don’t see millions pushing the narrative that we need to get back to normal.

Unless that malaise changes then we can kiss goodbye to ever going back to Easter Rd, if we still have a club.

It’s up to the population of this country what happens next when the vulnerable are vaccinated and deaths reduce by 99%.

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Not quite sure I get your point.

‘Vulnerable’ includes some fit and healthy people who because of the work they do have been exposed to the virus and got very sick or died.

I think you are describing a population that has faith in the NHS and, on the whole, trusts the science.

As I am neither in healthcare nor a medical scientist, I have no expert opinion on COVID and I am happy to trust those that do.

As far as I can tell, most folk are looking forward to being able to attend events and socialise again.

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Originally Posted by bingo70

England hoping to have some crowds back in from May. Stadiums with capacities of more than 40,000 can have up to 10,000. Stadiums smaller than that can have a quarter of their stadiums full. All restrictions gone by the end of June.

Interesting to see what is announced for us tomorrow.

Jason Leitch said a few weeks back he hoped some fans would be back by September. Big difference that, really hope we are going to get some positive news tomorrow.

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I think Leitch said that when the hope was everyone vaccinated by end September. Now it’s the end of July so hopefully he’d say different now.

No guarantee right enough!!

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Originally Posted by Blaster

I think Leitch said that when the hope was everyone vaccinated by end September. Now it’s the end of July so hopefully he’d say different now.

No guarantee right enough!!

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Cheers, that’s a bit more encouraging then.

I've had my hopes built up so often only to have them dashed I am scared to think that it will happen.

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Originally Posted by bingo70

England hoping to have some crowds back in from May. Stadiums with capacities of more than 40,000 can have up to 10,000. Stadiums smaller than that can have a quarter of their stadiums full. All restrictions gone by the end of June.

Interesting to see what is announced for us tomorrow.

Jason Leitch said a few weeks back he hoped some fans would be back by September. Big difference that, really hope we are going to get some positive news tomorrow.

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Westminster govt seem totally radge to me.

Obsessed with putting a date on specific things instead of - oh, something sensible like "if we are at X cases per 100000 then we can go to the pub / fitba etc".

They are never more than one press conference away from overpromising - fannies.


eta - I see that in the small print they require four tests on vaccines, infection rates and new coronavirus variants to be met at each stage, so not as cut and dried.

Can’t wait to get back, I’m even missing the pies.

If, and it’s a big if, the Scottish roadmap out of lockdown mirrors that in England, I’ll be at Scotland v Croatia at Hampden on Tuesday 22nd June. What a day out that would be.

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Originally Posted by green day

Westminster govt seem totally radge to me.

Obsessed with putting a date on specific things instead of - oh, something sensible like "if we are at X cases per 100000 then we can go to the pub / fitba etc".

They are never more than one press conference away from overpromising - fannies.


eta - I see that in the small print they require four tests on vaccines, infection rates and new coronavirus variants to be met at each stage, so not as cut and dried.

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They’ve been flailing around since the beginning.

Thank god we had a health system that could respond to the crisis, but of course in care homes it’s been a different and tragic story.

Fortunately the UK can genuinely claim to have a world class bio med industry which has seen us ahead of the curve on vaccinations.

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Originally Posted by green day

Westminster govt seem totally radge to me.

Obsessed with putting a date on specific things instead of - oh, something sensible like "if we are at X cases per 100000 then we can go to the pub / fitba etc".

They are never more than one press conference away from overpromising - fannies.


eta - I see that in the small print they require four tests on vaccines, infection rates and new coronavirus variants to be met at each stage, so not as cut and dried.

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Correct. Those clowns in Westminster have just painted a big target on their backs with their latest statements.

Scottish Governments responses to date have been the UKs +1 step/delay further, whether that will be the case with an election looming I dont know.

My guess is that will continue on the cautious side. I dont see anything happening this season unless the data is irrefutably good.

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Originally Posted by ColintonHibs

Our coward society should’ve months ago when everyone realised this is a scam

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Who would have thought that Julia Hartley Brewer was a Hibee....


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Originally Posted by ColintonHibs

Our coward society should’ve months ago when everyone realised this is a scam

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I am disappointed in myself for asking but in what way are you suggesting it's a scam?

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Originally Posted by SaulGoodman

Can’t wait to get back, I’m even missing the pies.

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The pies are brilliant in a really **** way :agree:

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Originally Posted by flash

I am disappointed in myself for asking but in what way are you suggesting it's a scam?

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Twitter says so

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Originally Posted by green day

Westminster govt seem totally radge to me.

Obsessed with putting a date on specific things instead of - oh, something sensible like "if we are at X cases per 100000 then we can go to the pub / fitba etc".

They are never more than one press conference away from overpromising - fannies.


eta - I see that in the small print they require four tests on vaccines, infection rates and new coronavirus variants to be met at each stage, so not as cut and dried.

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Spot on. Its notable from looking at social media how 'not before 21 June' has become 'lockdown ends 21 June'. The pressure will be on them now to fulfil that even if turns out not the be the best thing to do by that time, which potentially results in more infections, more deaths and measures being reintroduced. There will now be pressure on the Scottish Government to do the same, even though they're typically more sensible and measured in these things, and will undoubtedly be used as a stick to beat them if they don't mirror the Westminster plans by people who should know better.

I take it the 'September' in the thread title refers to September 2021.

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Originally Posted by Keith_M

I take it the 'September' in the thread title refers to September 2021.

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It does now

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Originally Posted by Wakeyhibee

Scottish Governments responses to date have been the UKs +1 step/delay further, whether that will be the case with an election looming I dont know.

My guess is that will continue on the cautious side. I dont see anything happening this season unless the data is irrefutably good.

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Not necessarily. My grandchildren restarted school this week. English schools don’t reopen till next month.

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Originally Posted by G15 Hibs

Spot on. Its notable from looking at social media how 'not before 21 June' has become 'lockdown ends 21 June'. The pressure will be on them now to fulfil that even if turns out not the be the best thing to do by that time, which potentially results in more infections, more deaths and measures being reintroduced. There will now be pressure on the Scottish Government to do the same, even though they're typically more sensible and measured in these things, and will undoubtedly be used as a stick to beat them if they don't mirror the Westminster plans by people who should know better.

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So much for Boris's -we will be guided by data not dates. As someone said he now has a big target on his back. I'm a bit worried about everyone going on foreign holidays and importing different strains in.

That would knacker everything again.