Rugby

You know what really annoys me about rugby? The overtime at the end. It just seems so unfair that in a close match the team who are trailing can have unlimited time to maybe win the game just by keeping the ball in play. The clock stops during downtime so it's not as if the full 80 minutes haven't been played, or as near as. Does anyone know the thinking behind this rule and do any other sports have anything like it?

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Originally Posted by OldEast

You know what really annoys me about rugby? The overtime at the end. It just seems so unfair that in a close match the team who are trailing can have unlimited time to maybe win the game just by keeping the ball in play. The clock stops during downtime so it's not as if the full 80 minutes haven't been played, or as near as. Does anyone know the thinking behind this rule and do any other sports have anything like it?

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The rule is the ball has to be “dead” - although the 80mins are counted correctly play can’t be stopped while the balls in play.

The advantage rule is the biggest annoyance for me - play goes on forever and then gets drawn back for the kick at goal. The complete opposite of football where it’s over too quickly.

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Originally Posted by Danderhall Hibs

The rule is the ball has to be “dead” - although the 80mins are counted correctly play can’t be stopped while the balls in play.

The advantage rule is the biggest annoyance for me - play goes on forever and then gets drawn back for the kick at goal. The complete opposite of football where it’s over too quickly.

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Yes I know the ball has to be dead, that's my point really. It could take another 20 minutes as happened in Wales v France where France got the winning try. Can't be right surely?

Agree about advantage. You just know it's going to be brought back. Football should just scrap the advantage rule as each ref had a different interpretation and always too short.

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Originally Posted by OldEast

Yes I know the ball has to be dead, that's my point really. It could take another 20 minutes as happened in Wales v France where France got the winning try. Can't be right surely?

Agree about advantage. You just know it's going to be brought back. Football should just scrap the advantage rule as each ref had a different interpretation and always too short.

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I quite like the fact that you get a final play when the clock goes red. It adds a bit of excitement for the fans and allows everyone on the pitch to know where they stand and what they need to do. losing team, if they have the ball know that they need to keep it alive at all costs and the winning team know they need to avoid giving a penalty away and try to win the ball back to put it out.

The reality is that what happened in the France Wales game a few years ago was a farce but hardly ever happens. Most games end within the first few seconds of the clock going red and probably 99% end within the first 2mins of the clock going red.

The advantage rule in rugby is good, however I agree that it sometimes lasts too long. I think that there should be some proper guidance for it, i.e. a maximum amount of time it can last, or a maximum amount of metres gained it can last. There was a situation in the game on Saturday where England had the advantage near the half way line and the referee allowed them to advance the ball into the 22, at which point the lost it (knock on or something like that) and he then called it back for the original offence, that's too much for me. Once a team has got more than 10m-15m further forward than where the offence was committed then surely the advantage should be over.

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Originally Posted by hibsbollah

Rugby is not my favorurite sport, and I’m not all that knowledgeable about it. I do like watching the 6 nations.

For some reason, I got into watching the highlights of 2019s 38-38 draw with England on you tube earlier. What an incredible spectacle, just an impossible unscriptable game. I was wondering how many Scotland rugby fans on here actually watched the whole 80 mins? If you’re anything like me against a big rival and you’re getting humped 31-0 you turn off the tv and go and make the tea :faf: I didn’t watch it that year, I was aware there’d been an exciting finish but hadn’t realized it was quite like that. Amazing.

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I was watching it with my wife and kids and was all set to turn it off when Scotland were 31-0 down, but they made me keep it on as, according to the optimism of youth, there was still time for a comeback. Then Scotland scored before half time and they all got excited so we kept it on. Then the madness of the second half unfolded and I genuinely couldn't believe what was happening.

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Originally Posted by Sergio sledge

The reality is that what happened in the France Wales game a few years ago was a farce but hardly ever happens. Most games end within the first few seconds of the clock going red and probably 99% end within the first 2mins of the clock going red.

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I raise you France Scotland last year

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Originally Posted by Sergio sledge

I quite like the fact that you get a final play when the clock goes red. It adds a bit of excitement for the fans and allows everyone on the pitch to know where they stand and what they need to do. losing team, if they have the ball know that they need to keep it alive at all costs and the winning team know they need to avoid giving a penalty away and try to win the ball back to put it out.

The reality is that what happened in the France Wales game a few years ago was a farce but hardly ever happens. Most games end within the first few seconds of the clock going red and probably 99% end within the first 2mins of the clock going red.

The advantage rule in rugby is good, however I agree that it sometimes lasts too long. I think that there should be some proper guidance for it, i.e. a maximum amount of time it can last, or a maximum amount of metres gained it can last. There was a situation in the game on Saturday where England had the advantage near the half way line and the referee allowed them to advance the ball into the 22, at which point the lost it (knock on or something like that) and he then called it back for the original offence, that's too much for me. Once a team has got more than 10m-15m further forward than where the offence was committed then surely the advantage should be over.

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I agree

When it’s for a knock on, the advantage is pretty clear, if the non-offending team kick for field position or break the gain line it’s usually advantage over. But for penalty infringements, play can sometimes go on for several minutes before refs pull it back, which to me is unfair.

As you’ve suggested, a certain distance gained, or perhaps a set number of phases (say 6), if the non-offending team haven’t been able to make any headway then pull it back, otherwise advantage should be over.

I'm in a minority but league is back tonight with Sanits v Catalans.

NRL starts next month (though there is Maori v Indeginous game on Saturday morning UK time)

I find myself really nervous about tomorrow's match already.

It would be pure Scotland to beat England last weekend to go to an injury ravaged Welsh side (who were awful last week) and lose...but this is the strongest Scotland team I can recall in a long time - even the strength on the bench is incredible!

First things first though - a testing international-impacted trip for Edinburgh to Leinster (not a happy hunting ground) tonight...can't see us taking anything from it but some fringe players getting a chance may feel they have a point to prove.

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Originally Posted by Sylar

I find myself really nervous about tomorrow's match already.

It would be pure Scotland to beat England last weekend to go to an injury ravaged Welsh side (who were awful last week) and lose...but this is the strongest Scotland team I can recall in a long time - even the strength on the bench is incredible!

First things first though - a testing international-impacted trip for Edinburgh to Leinster (not a happy hunting ground) tonight...can't see us taking anything from it but some fringe players getting a chance may feel they have a point to prove.

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Agreed, the potential for disaster is enormous (I was at that game)

As far as Edinburgh's concerned we'll always Brendan's not to be repeated penalty

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Originally Posted by Sylar

I find myself really nervous about tomorrow's match already.

It would be pure Scotland to beat England last weekend to go to an injury ravaged Welsh side (who were awful last week) and lose...but this is the strongest Scotland team I can recall in a long time - even the strength on the bench is incredible!

First things first though - a testing international-impacted trip for Edinburgh to Leinster (not a happy hunting ground) tonight...can't see us taking anything from it but some fringe players getting a chance may feel they have a point to prove.

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I'm buzzing for the game. I was at Murrayfield last weekend and defensively we were outstanding and took our moments. Hopefully we can go and win in Wales for the first time since 2002. If we do... what a tone setter.

Then if we do... what if? Thats why I love sport.

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Johnathan Davies seems to be wearing some sort of carpet.

just soooooo Scotland

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Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875

just soooooo Scotland

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Woeful start.


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Started well, then lost the plot.

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Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY

Started well, then lost the plot.

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That’s better. Super finish from Darcy


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Originally Posted by Aldo

Woeful start.


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:greengrin

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Originally Posted by Aldo

That’s better. Super finish from Darcy


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Indeed 🖒

This could be a yellow??




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Nippy referee. Likes his endless advantage. peep peep constantly.

now hopefully not give away a penalty from the restart

shockerooni another penalty advantage

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Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875

shockerooni another penalty advantage

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Cant stand it.

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Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875

shockerooni another penalty advantage

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Note he spoke with Hogg about this yet less pens than Wales!


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most used words by the commentator today


penalty advantage wales

kick hits the post and Scotland players race out at snails pace


russell yellow card and that'll be that after 67 mins

How Scotland is that... utterly pish

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The referee has been woeful

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Originally Posted by Just_Jimmy

How Scotland is that... utterly pish

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It's unbelievable. 😣

So easy to get up for the game against England but FFS we’ve made Wales look good today.

Russell just why!


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I wonder how many minutes of this game have been played during a Wales penalty advantage when everyone in the stadium knows its getting called back.