Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

what we get

.....................Craig Whyte and he deserves us

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.....................no sympathy from anyone as we are ****

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Originally Posted by greenginger

Thinking back about a year, there was a group of Gers supporters formed an action movement whose slogan was

" We Deserve Better "

I remember them getting interviewed outside Ibrox, incandescent with rage because their Bank was not allowing a huge transfer budget.

I wonder what their slogan is today ? :greengrin We deserve -------? any suggestions

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a guid slap in the puss for wir cheek.

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Originally Posted by greenginger

Thinking back about a year, there was a group of Gers supporters formed an action movement whose slogan was

" We Deserve Better "

I remember them getting interviewed outside Ibrox, incandescent with rage because their Bank was not allowing a huge transfer budget.

I wonder what their slogan is today ? :greengrin We deserve -------? any suggestions

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Oblivion.

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Originally Posted by greenginger

Thinking back about a year, there was a group of Gers supporters formed an action movement whose slogan was

" We Deserve Better "

I remember them getting interviewed outside Ibrox, incandescent with rage because their Bank was not allowing a huge transfer budget.

I wonder what their slogan is today ? :greengrin We deserve -------? any suggestions

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... a news update on redundancies?
Seriously, I've been using this thread to cheer myself up, and there hasn't been any good news for days now. Isn't it time for some slash and burn techniques Duff & Phelps? :confused:

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Originally Posted by alfie

... a news update on redundancies?
Seriously, I've been using this thread to cheer myself up, and there hasn't been any good news for days now. Isn't it time for some slash and burn techniques Duff & Phelps? :confused:

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Patience, good sir, I feel it's just warming up.

One more big pay-day for RFC this weekend, and then.... KABOOM.

And don't forget.... once this saga is over, we have the main feature of Slaughter on Ardmillan Avenue :greengrin

Have the administrators had the meeting with players yet about cuts in playing staff?

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Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod

Patience, good sir, I feel it's just warming up.

One more big pay-day for RFC this weekend, and then.... KABOOM.

And don't forget.... once this saga is over, we have the main feature of Slaughter on Ardmillan Avenue :greengrin

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McLeod Street, surely?


:confused:

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Originally Posted by johnrebus

McLeod Street, surely?


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The music is Slaughter on Tenth Avenue..... and I couldn't think of any other avenues anywhere near :greengrin

Nightmare on McLeod Street works though....

Quite ironic that followfollow appear to be conducting a concerted campaign against Collyer Bristow by bombarding them with emails, calling them and hanging up and when you click on the Collyerbristow web page you are met with "How to they deal with Cyber Harassment and how they can help"...I wonder if they are currently preparing a case against the FF admin team :greengrin

http://www.collyerbristow.com/

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Originally Posted by PaulSmith

Quite ironic that followfollow appear to be conducting a concerted campaign against Collyer Bristow by bombarding them with emails, calling them and hanging up and when you click on the Collyerbristow web page you are met with "How to they deal with Cyber Harassment and how they can help"...I wonder if they are currently preparing a case against the FF admin team :greengrin

http://www.collyerbristow.com/

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... and some people call our admin pricks bad?... :greengrin

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Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod

Patience, good sir, I feel it's just warming up.

One more big pay-day for RFC this weekend, and then.... KABOOM.

And don't forget.... once this saga is over, we have the main feature of Slaughter on Ardmillan Avenue :greengrin

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Still a huge number of things to come to light, including:

On what authority do Craigie White's London lawyers hold a mandate over undistributed funds? Who is the real owner?

If the Ticketius deal was to be set aside, does that not mean that Lloyds/HBOS received their paydown via illegal funds and so should as well be set aside?

Would it not be total anathema for Ticketus to be bumped out and yet Lloyd escape free??

Then again, there is the issue of the asset sale to T, which is surely legitimate in the normal course of business, as has been the outcome in a number of cases. If the T deal goes wrong in this case, does that not invalidate T's deals with other footie clubs??

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Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod

The music is Slaughter on Tenth Avenue..... and I couldn't think of any other avenues anywhere near :greengrin

Nightmare on McLeod Street works though....

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Now, is that from the ballet of the same name, or the album by the late Mick Ronson?


:cb

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Originally Posted by johnrebus

Now, is that from the ballet of the same name, or the album by the late Mick Ronson?


:cb

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Both... :agree: It's a wonderful piece of music, and Ronno did it justice.

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Originally Posted by ancienthibby

Still a huge number of things to come to light, including:

On what authority do Craigie White's London lawyers hold a mandate over undistributed funds? Who is the real owner?

If the Ticketius deal was to be set aside, does that not mean that Lloyds/HBOS received their paydown via illegal funds and so should as well be set aside?

Would it not be total anathema for Ticketus to be bumped out and yet Lloyd escape free??

Then again, there is the issue of the asset sale to T, which is surely legitimate in the normal course of business, as has been the outcome in a number of cases. If the T deal goes wrong in this case, does that not invalidate T's deals with other footie clubs??

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Steady, AH... I am hearing the Soap theme again. :greengrin

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Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod

Steady, AH... I am hearing the Soap theme again. :greengrin

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:greengrin Aye, that's a wee bit of magic!

Oh, and I am still convinced that former and current RFC directors could (should?) be found guilty of wrongful trading!! Maybe not fair on the likes of J Greig (who should never have been a director in the first place), but CW and his associates don't have much room to manouvre??

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Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod

Pretty sure it's Season Tickets only. The number 100,333 is in my mind.

Not sure, though, if that figure is spread evenly, or whether it's a TOTAL for the four years. ie if only 10,000 are sold in year 1, there are still 90,000 carried forward to years 2-4.

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You would also think that ticketus will own the seats, so if it's 25k seats per season the Hun can't sell them as they are already bought. The Hun can't sell them to the unwashed hordes just turning up.

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Originally Posted by TwoCarpets

You would also think that ticketus will own the seats, so if it's 25k seats per season the Hun can't sell them as they are already bought. The Hun can't sell them to the unwashed hordes just turning up.

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There's a potential lovely irony here, TC!

If Ticketus do legally own the seat tickets (which ST buyers would own for a season) then do they not have the right to sell the spaces where the seats are??

If they do not, then RFC could re-sell the 'space' that the ST seats take up, but not the seats themselves, so we'd be left with a 48K SRO stadium at Ipox??:devil:

Not advocating it, of course, but it does set you thinking!

I do hope that one of the admin team will change the title of this thread to 'Rangers Liquidated' if and when the time comes. There aren't enough smilies in the world that could capture the moment!

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Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba

I do hope that one of the admin team will change the title of this thread to 'Rangers Liquidated' if and when the time comes. There aren't enough smilies in the world that could capture the moment!

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It also conjures up a nice, mental picture.......

With apologies to Frank Sinatra...:greengrin


Rangers stuffed by Whyte
The fans are all nervous
Rangers in the [rhymes with "light"]
It could be curtains
Something dont seem right
Rangers are in the [rhymes with "light"]


Do-be-do they're screwed
De-do-be-do-be
Do-be-do they're screwed

Pars only able to pay 60% wages to their own players, Alan Preston hinting that rangers due money causing problems

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Originally Posted by PaulSmith

Pars only able to pay 60% wages to their own players, Alan Preston hinting that rangers due money causing problems

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That's bound to be an issue, but I can't help thinking DAFC were struggling anyway. Poor crowds.... the closing of the stand....they have lost £1.5m in the past two seasons.... the writing was on the wall, but the RFC debt has probably pushed them too far.

Sometimes relegation can be good for a club, and it may be what DAFC "need". Get rid of the highest earners, start again with kids.

I hope they survive, even if they have to go part-time.

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Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod

That's bound to be an issue, but I can't help thinking DAFC were struggling anyway. Poor crowds.... the closing of the stand.... the writing was on the wall, but the RFC debt has probably pushed them too far.

Sometimes relegation can be good for a club, and it may be what DAFC "need". Get rid of the highest earners, start again with kids.

I hope they survive, even if they have to go part-time.

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Cropley what really annoys me about this whole situation is since it has cropped up i have (sorry) kept an eye on the Rangers forums, mainly The Bears Den and the attitude from people on there makes me sick. Its full of comments like "f*** them if they dont want us then lets join League 2 in England" or "I just dont understand the hatred from the rest of the SPL when we made the league what it is".

Clearly they just cant see why ppl might be angry with them cheating not only scottish football but also the ordinary tax payer then they are more stupid than i ever gave them credit for.

I hope the worst happens to them i really do and in all honesty if that has a knock on effect for the rest of Scottish Football then so be it. Football in this country is dying on its arse anyway so something has to change and if that something is those ****my gits going out of business then i am a happier man.

apparently david healey is only one game away from triggering a clause for a 12 month extension

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Originally Posted by stokesmessiah

Cropley what really annoys me about this whole situation is since it has cropped up i have (sorry) kept an eye on the Rangers forums, mainly The Bears Den and the attitude from people on there makes me sick. Its full of comments like "f*** them if they dont want us then lets join League 2 in England" or "I just dont understand the hatred from the rest of the SPL when we made the league what it is".

Clearly they just cant see why ppl might be angry with them cheating not only scottish football but also the ordinary tax payer then they are more stupid than i ever gave them credit for.

I hope the worst happens to them i really do and in all honesty if that has a knock on effect for the rest of Scottish Football then so be it. Football in this country is dying on its arse anyway so something has to change and if that something is those ****my gits going out of business then i am a happier man.

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This :aok:

Can you sign player released through administration?
If so Neil Alexander would be ideal for us IMO

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Originally Posted by PaulSmith

Can you sign player released through administration?
If so Neil Alexander would be ideal for us IMO

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Think from memory with the gretna situation the answer to that is technically no, however if they appeal to uefa they may be allowed.

Might be talking pish with that though

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Originally Posted by stokesmessiah

Cropley what really annoys me about this whole situation is since it has cropped up i have (sorry) kept an eye on the Rangers forums, mainly The Bears Den and the attitude from people on there makes me sick. Its full of comments like "f*** them if they dont want us then lets join League 2 in England" or "I just dont understand the hatred from the rest of the SPL when we made the league what it is".

Clearly they just cant see why ppl might be angry with them cheating not only scottish football but also the ordinary tax payer then they are more stupid than i ever gave them credit for.

I hope the worst happens to them i really do and in all honesty if that has a knock on effect for the rest of Scottish Football then so be it. Football in this country is dying on its arse anyway so something has to change and if that something is those ****my gits going out of business then i am a happier man.

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Probably because most "the people" on those sites are stupid laddies who think that football didn't exist before Sky (or, in Rangers' case, Souness).

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Originally Posted by PaulSmith

Pars only able to pay 60% wages to their own players, Alan Preston hinting that rangers due money causing problems

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If that is true, then Dunfermline are sailing close to the wind too. A real hand to mouth existence.