No worries, just thought that may have been the point behind the update.Quote:
Originally Posted by Santa Cruz
I have my phone set to automatic updates so I'll see what happens once it's complete.
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No worries, just thought that may have been the point behind the update.Quote:
Originally Posted by Santa Cruz
I have my phone set to automatic updates so I'll see what happens once it's complete.
You can still take a screenshot but it has a live clock on the app now just under the code so it’s obvious if it’s a screenshot as the time will be wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir David Gray
Ah right cheers.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibee
Reading more about the booster results and they are quite incredible. Quite a few immunologists were thinking that there was a chance the vaccines were going to be 3 doses and this is proving that right. 1 dose does a decent job at protecting against death, 2 against hospitalisations, 3 of catching covid.
Antibodies are much higher after 3 than 2 also. So if waining is linear then this will give good protection for 18 months rather than 6. Results expected to be the same if not better with az then pfizer. Will be a kick in the teeth to the "but you can still catch and spread if vaccinated" gang.
Michael Baym
@baym
What’s absolutely wild about this number is that it’s 95.6% efficacy against symptomatic disease versus double-vaccinated controls, not against unvaccinated
Kevin S
@KStapleton_BTV
broadly but not precisely: Compared to those with the standard vaccination, those with a booster were 95.6% less likely to get sick. The 95.6% would be impressive if compared to the unvaccinated. It's especially impressive compared to the vaccinated.
They should all be sectioned, one of them is a former paramedic too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir David Gray
Anyone know what details it is no longer sharing. It was totally unnecessary how much it did share initially so glad it has changed. Surely a simple yes would be enough and if an extra level was needed an age(not DOB)Quote:
Originally Posted by Santa Cruz
Thanks for the heads up. Updated, took about half an hour for my status to sync in the background but now have the psychedelic clockQuote:
Originally Posted by Santa Cruz
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I updated mine about an hour ago and it shows the dates and qr codes for international travel but I just get the screenshot below for Scotland?Attachment 25219Quote:
Originally Posted by Radium
I had the international stuff as well. Hopefully it is the same as the launch and it catches up with timeQuote:
Originally Posted by degenerated
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I closed it and went back in and same, I just dragged down to refresh the screen and it's updated now. Like the green and white saltire.:greengrinAttachment 25220Quote:
Originally Posted by Radium
So do you have to download a new/updated app now or does it just perform an update when you go in and give it permission as most other apps do?
Doenst look like it auto updates and I can't find the update from the play storeQuote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
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I don't think it automatically tells you to update when you go into the app but it is showing as a pending update on my Play Store.Quote:
Originally Posted by Callum_62
Thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir David Gray
I had no idea the play store showed pending updated
Updated now and worked first time
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I have an iPhone and it was just an update waiting in my App StoreQuote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
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Covid has severely affected healthcare staff and may have killed between 80,000 and 180,000, the World Health Organization (WHO) says.
Healthcare workers must be prioritised for vaccines, WHO head Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said, and he criticised unfairness in the distribution of jabs.
The deaths occurred between January 2020 and May of this year.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-58973697
Breakdown of today's cases by council area;
Glasgow - 203
Fife - 200
Edinburgh - 182
North Lanarkshire - 174
South Lanarkshire - 143
West Lothian - 126
Aberdeenshire - 109
Highland - 92
Aberdeen - 88
East Ayrshire - 73
Falkirk - 71
Perth and Kinross - 70
Stirling - 67
Dundee - 67
Dumfries and Galloway - 65
Scottish Borders - 56
North Ayrshire - 56
East Dunbartonshire - 56
South Ayrshire - 55
East Lothian - 52
Angus - 47
Renfrewshire - 45
Clackmannanshire - 42
West Dunbartonshire - 37
East Renfrewshire - 33
Argyll and Bute - 33
Inverclyde - 32
Moray - 29
Midlothian - 24
Na-h Eileanan Siar - 11
Shetland - 3
Orkney - 2
Should the government do more to protect the NHS?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-58981586
As if staff don't have enough to deal with without these headbangers making a nuisance of themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir David Gray
I signed out of the app completely then signed in again and it had updated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
Snap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sl1010
Jesus wept!!!
End Times conspiracy theorist Rick Wiles claims that COVID-19 vaccines contain "an egg that hatches into a synthetic parasite and grows inside your body." https://t.co/mOUHaztXT0
Looked at the app, my QR codes had disappeared and it said I didn’t meet any criteria but there was no update pending either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
Deleted and reinstalled the app, signed back in (didn’t need to do the full verification thing again) and it’s all there. Now has a single QR code valid in Scotland and the two codes if you’re travelling.
That's going to be a lot more convenient for people, both customers and venues.Quote:
Originally Posted by B.H.F.C
Problem will be if it’s not updating automatically, folk turn up somewhere having not checked the app and there is nothing there when they open it. I wouldn’t have known anything about having to update if I had t saw it here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
This is quite a long cut & paste job (it wasn't easy to avoid the graphs!) which summarises the current position on deaths/vaccination status etc over a period of time.
MORE than 800 people fully vaccinated against Covid have died from the disease in Scotland to date, with figures showing that over-80s now make up a quarter of all hospital admissions linked to the virus.
The latest statistical report from Public Health Scotland shows that there have been 832 Covid deaths in total - where the infection was listed as a cause on the death certificate - since December 2020 in people who tested positive for the virus 14 or more days after their second vaccination.
The vast majority of these - 596 (72%) - have occurred since Scotland lifted restrictions on August 9, bringing an end to measures such as physical distancing.
The report notes that these individuals "had several comorbidities which contributed to their deaths" and that 79.2% "were in the 70 and over age group".
In total, there have been almost 9000 confirmed Covid deaths in Scotland since the beginning of the pandemic in March 2020.
As more than 85% of the population aged 16-plus is now fully vaccinated, this group will inevitably account for the largest number of hospitalisations.
Furthermore, as the elderly are more likely than other age groups to be fully vaccinated, but also more vulnerable to severe complications if they suffer a breakthrough infection, it is also expected that fully-vaccinated people will account for the largest proportion of deaths.
In the week ending October 8, there were 100 Covid deaths in fully-vaccinated Scots compared to 19 in unvaccinated individuals.
However, once the figures are adjusted to take into account the size of each population and their different demographic profiles, the mortality rate for the unvaccinated group is more than 2.5 times higher than it is among the fully vaccinated: 5.29 deaths per 100,000 compared to 1.96 per 100,000.
Hospitalisations show a similar pattern.
In the 60-plus age group in the week ending October 15 there were 275 Covid hospital admissions in fullyvaccinated people compared to 29 for the unvaccinated. However, unvaccinated over-60s were actually twice as likely to have required hospital treatment, with 39 per 100,000 unvaccinated over-60s admitted to hospital compared to 20 per 100,000 who were fully vaccinated.
In the 16 to 29 age group, unvaccinated individuals were five times more likely to end up in hospital.
The data also shows that 146 Covid positive children under 16 have been admitted to hospital in the past four weeks - compared to one who had had a single vaccine dose - though not all admissions are necessarily due to the virus.
Nearly half (48%) of 12 to 15-year-olds in Scotland had been vaccinated to date. Most children in this age group are only being offered one dose, unless they are severely immunocompromised. The report also shows that over-80s in Scotland now make up 25% of Covid hospital admissions, up from 19% in mid-September. The data also shows that 146 Covid positive children under 16 have been admitted to hospital in the past four weeks - compared to one who had had a single vaccine dose - though not all admissions are necessarily due to the virus.
My app has managed to update overnight so I now have the new setup with the clock etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by B.H.F.C
It's obviously now harder for screenshots to take place, although I wonder why it's not been possible to stop a screenshot being taken in the first place.
Anyone know? Is our app compatible with/accepted as an EU digital covid certificate? The Swiss one is so it must be possible for "3rd countries".
ONS estimates state in the week ending 16th October;
1 in 45 people in Wales were positive
1 in 55 people in England were positive
1 in 90 people in Scotland were positive
1 in 130 people in Northern Ireland were positive
It was published on gov website but only the courier chose to run a story about it as far as I can see, and that was only about how much chaos the update would cause.Quote:
Originally Posted by B.H.F.C
It would be helpful if the media actually did its job instead of sitting on this till it causes a problem and then using it to score points.
It is accepted.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
Daily Scottish update:
2,902 new cases since yesterday - 8.8% positivity rate
Decrease of 23 in the confirmed cases in hospital since yesterday - 894
Increase of 2 in the confirmed cases in intensive care since yesterday - 60
4,299,649 people have now received their first dose of the vaccine - 2,621 people since yesterday
3,888,408 people have now received their second dose of the vaccine - 2,232 people since yesterday
19 deaths registered since yesterday
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-59007171
Another lockdown is not the answer in Wales, according to this one public health expert anyway.
I updated the App last night but still only had the international version today. I did the same as you by deleting the App and reinstalling it and now I get the domestic QR code as well as the international one.Quote:
Originally Posted by B.H.F.C
With the talk of new lockdowns, how would it even work?
Fair enough you can shut businesses but then you have to pay furlough.
Individually people aren’t going to stop meeting others etc. The fear factor is over for the vast majority
I'm pretty sure it won't work except to obviously prevent people from going to pubs, restaurants, football matches etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by DiscoDoidge
I believe people will continue to travel around the country and meet up with friends and family etc in far larger numbers than during the previous lockdowns.
Previously the restrictions were by and large respected by the majority of decent people and those who failed to comply were the kind of people who think this is all a hoax and who think rules don't apply to them.
Now I think you're also going to get people who are fully vaccinated and who were previously supportive of lockdowns viewing any further restrictions as something which is only coming about due to a minority of people who are not willing to be vaccinated and who are spoiling it for everyone else.
I don't see any huge compliance happening with any further lockdowns, at least not on the same scale that we saw in previous lockdowns.
Scientists advising the UK government say plans for reintroducing stricter Covid measures should be undertaken now and be ready for "rapid deployment".
Advising people to work from home could have the greatest impact on stopping viral spread, the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage) says.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59011321
NHS Lanarkshire has moved to the "highest risk level" as its three hospitals are at maximum capacity.
The military is already providing additional support at University hospitals Hairmyres, Monklands and Wishaw.
But the health board described occupancy levels as "critical" and said the "sustained pressure" shows no signs of easing.
It also confirmed some elective cancer procedures have been cancelled.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...-west-59010932
49,298 cases and 180 deaths registered in the UK today.
A new mutated form of coronavirus that some are calling "Delta Plus" may spread more easily than regular Delta, UK experts now say.
The UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA) has moved it up into the "variant under investigation" category, to reflect this possible risk.
There is no evidence yet that it causes worse illness.
And scientists are confident that existing vaccines should still work well to protect people.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59009293
Is there such a thing as elective cancer treatment?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir David Gray
I would've thought maybe semi-elective for some but most come under urgent.
Great, thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by marinello59
Can't see there being any major restrictions coming in. This is the model that sage gave the uk governments for is estimated hospital admissions this autumn. Red line is what we have had , between the 2 gray lines was what was expected.
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Also cases are 50% in the young groups still. An insane 8% of teens estimated to be catching it each week and ons say 75% have previously had it there can't be much to go.
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Probably most optimistic thing is sages new usually pessimistic models out today, most centrally say no more than 1500 admissions per day (down from between 2 and 7k) this winter.
Many thought a firebreak would be enforced this month but hospitalisations have been flat. If the Pfizer booster figures are correct and between 98 and 99% protection against symptomatic covid, covid is finished for those that get vaccinated. It will be bad news for poorer nations though, as they numbers mean richer countries will be all wanting 3 doses for all
Looks like pfizer will be approved for 5-11yo in the US. By the time a decision was approved most kids that age will have already caught it in the uk unfortunately
That was my first thought too . I wonder if things like breast reconstruction and stoma reversals would be classed as elective cancer ops. I'd like to think there's not people with cancer having ops being postponed. What a worry for themQuote:
Originally Posted by Killiehibbie
Northern Ireland is "facing into the most difficult winter ever experienced", Robin Swann has warned.
The health minister said there were "unscheduled pressures" facing the health and social care system.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-59007006
Anti-vaccination and anti-lockdown protesters are organising themselves online to confront MPs in person, Sky News has found.
One online group is going after politicians because of their "evil actions" - and shares tips on how to find constituency offices and MPs' homes.
https://news.sky.com/story/how-do-i-...rules-12440222
Dr Eleanor Gaunt, a virologist at Edinburgh University, said pressure on in Scottish hospitals was “only going to get worse” and called on ministers to reintroduce some restrictions to stem the case numbers.
“If you look at the causes that are underlying that it looks as though this is due to staff sickness and staff having to self-isolate and bed shortages as well and all of those factors are directly attributable to high case numbers of coronavirus.
“This is something we have intervention strategies to bring back under control and . . . in these areas and under this high pressure, it’s something we need to consider enacting now because it’s only going to get worse.”
Experts are warning not to rule out the prospect of a further lockdown if cases are not brought back under control.
Any fresh curbs on freedoms are likely to include capping the number of people allowed to attend indoor gatherings or the possible reintroduction of social distancing rules.
If we need to increase the restrictions up here then there's literally no point in England bringing in "plan B" since we're pretty much already there. The only difference might be stronger guidance for people to work from home but other than that I don't see mask wearing and vaccine passports being enough in England if we maybe need to toughen up with restrictions.Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveHFC
In any case it all seems quite ominous just now.
Nope, no drop in for booster yetQuote:
Originally Posted by J.S
Edit - seen you answered
Breakdown of today's cases by council area;
Glasgow - 273
Fife - 266
North Lanarkshire - 208
Edinburgh - 191
South Lanarkshire - 157
West Lothian - 144
Aberdeenshire - 134
Highland - 124
East Ayrshire - 103
Renfrewshire - 100
Falkirk - 99
Perth and Kinross - 97
Dundee - 89
Aberdeen - 84
Stirling - 78
Dumfries and Galloway - 68
East Dunbartonshire - 63
Angus - 62
East Lothian - 58
Scottish Borders - 56
East Renfrewshire - 53
South Ayrshire - 52
Clackmannanshire - 51
West Dunbartonshire - 50
Argyll and Bute - 50
North Ayrshire - 48
Moray - 45
Midlothian - 41
Inverclyde - 31
Na-h Eileanan Siar - 15
Shetland - 3
Orkney - 2
While I agree the good doctor is probably right I can't see anything changing until after COP26.Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveHFC
It seems to be that all travellers back to Scotland will continue to have to get the full PCR test thats £68 each or £272 for this family, despite arrivals at English airports just having to get a lateral flow on return :dunno: I thought I’d heard scotgov had followed the U.K. lead in this respect? Doesn’t look possible on the testing website.
Still no news. Last scot gov said is they are looking to have parity, but England change on Sunday. From Sunday you can get one in England for £15, rest of Europe don't need testing if vaccinated so I think it's a good compromiseQuote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
Not for ****ing me it isn’t, gov.uk website seems particularly pleased to inform me I am only able to take advantage of this fantastic £15 lat flow deal if I’m English. Once I’ve booked these £68 PCR tests in scotland, without which I can’t get the passenger locator form, I’ve spent around £400 on testing alone for this holiday, I know a fair few others the same, there’s companies absolutely taking it in from these tests which seem to be run by a bunch of amateurs with rickety equipment doing something the nhs does for free.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
The French system has been run like clockwork by comparison.
Thanks for the info incidentally :aok:
I could understand and support these tests if this country was on top of covid and we wanted to keep a lid on it, but since it seems to be fairly rampant then you have to ask what the point is?
Aye its a money making scam for these pop up private companies, disappointed in scot gov with it. I'm still waiting for my results from August for me my wife and daughter from a company called ctm, £200 on nothing. Luckily I can get pcr tested at work and daughter does at school. An erse at work didn't even send his away and didn't hear anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
As davef says we've had supposed strictest rules in Europe over the last 3 months on travel, at the same time one of the highest rates.
Yeah I’m lucky to be able to get away at all so grateful for that, but it’s basically a shakedown.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
Maybe it’s to stick a barrier in the way of ordinary people being able to travel easily, which the authorities probably still don’t want?Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveF
I'm possibly misunderstanding the Scottish Government website but I'm reading it as if you're fully vaccinated and returning from a non-red list country you have the option of choosing from a list of providers in England as long as it's a "self swab at home" test.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
The link it takes you to on the UK Government website suggests there's such a test available for £3?
"take a COVID-19 PCR test within 2 days of arriving in Scotland – you can use the CTM booking portal to book and pay £68 for an NHS COVID-19 PCR test, or you can buy a test from a list of private providers In England (at the moment, you should only buy ‘self-swab at home’ tests)"
I'm assuming I have picked something up incorrectly though?
We travel back on Monday and was hoping the SG would follow what's happening in England, but unfortunately not. The tests at £3 and similar are ones you need to pick up yourself, so you physically have to be in say Bristol as an example to pick up the test and then return it there as well. As far as I could see all the other PCR Day 2 tests were about the same price as the £68 the SG are charging.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir David Gray
Ah right ok cheers, I thought that was a bit too good to be true, I don't think the Scottish Government website is very clear on that then.Quote:
Originally Posted by James310
Very disappointing and as has already been said you could understand the Scottish Government approach if case numbers were currently under control here and we were trying to keep it that way by ensuring people coming here from countries with far higher infection rates were not importing the virus back into Scotland.
As it happens though case numbers are currently out of control here and we have far higher infection rates than most countries in Western Europe where a lot of people will be travelling from and will be on our non-red list status, so there's much more risk for them allowing people into their country from Scotland than there is for us in allowing them to travel back here.
Really don't understand it at all.
Can you compare across countries as easily as that? When there's other factors in play that are different between each place that also impact numbers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir David Gray
For instance, Scotland could be in a much worse place had we not kept those last few measures in place so they would have an impact on the numbers in England?
Conversely to that point, these rules aren't entirely gone in practice in England anyway.
I'm in England now and I forgot my mask on my way in to a supermarket and stopped for a second trying to work out what to do before I realised I was in England and it wouldn't matter. That made me wonder how many were still wearing masks so I made a point of checking down isles out of nosiness and it was a lot more than I'd have expected - c.40% I'd guess.
Since Scotland kept the rules and England stopped them Scotland had much higher cases for over 2 months. Its only dropped now as it burnt through our youth more who went back to school earlier. Wales is much higher than both and has face masks and vaccine passports also for a few weeks now. England's cases should drop a decent bit in the next 2 weeks as it finishes in under 18s, Wales too actually.Quote:
Originally Posted by danhibees1875
The point you make that we could be in a much worse position if we hadn't kept these measures in place is almost impossible to argue against but isn't really the point I had hoped to get across.Quote:
Originally Posted by danhibees1875
The point I was trying to make is if there's talk about us possibly needing to increase restrictions up here, despite keeping these measures in place and already being pretty much at the "plan B" stage which is being proposed in England, I doubt if putting "plan B" into place will take England to the point where they need to be going into winter and I think they will need to go much further than that especially when there's now talk starting up about us possibly needing to look at introducing tougher restrictions up here.
https://youtu.be/9bamaEMftg4
Good video with a Doctor looking through some studies and data regarding natural immunity vs vaccine immunity. The data appears to point to natural immunity being better and more longer lasting than vaccine immunity.
That’s my understanding too, although the scotgov helpline and the company helpline are both closed over the weekend and there’s no additional info that I haven’t already got from the websites. Scotgov said they would follow the U.K. stance on allowing the lateral flow/antigen but they seemingly just haven’t provided the service. It’s total bollocks anyway, we’re all double vaxxed, teenagers have received negative antigens tests in France here too, from an area with about a third of the case numbers of Edinburgh.Quote:
Originally Posted by James310
There's definitely cheaper out there.Quote:
Originally Posted by James310
I'm flying out the 29th, returning 4th November. Was holding off booking my 2-day PCR in case the rules changed, but that's looking unlikely just now
Flying with Jet2, they have a list of testers they've recommended, one of them delivered the self swab to your home, guaranteed to be there on your return and you can "drop" the test of at various boxes in Edinburgh, the nearest to me is at a private clinic on Roseburn Street(somewhere near the Screwfix).
The test is about £41 per person.
A prominent adviser to the UK Government on Covid-19 has said he is “very fearful” there will be another “lockdown Christmas” as he urged the public to do everything possible to reduce transmission of the virus.
Professor Peter Openshaw, a member of the New and Emerging Respiratory Virus Threats Advisory Group (Nervtag), said case numbers and death rates are currently “unacceptable”.
https://news.stv.tv/world/covid-19-g...down-christmas
Do you have the name or website please? £41 each would be a saving of over £100.Quote:
Originally Posted by speedy_gonzales
Short Sharp Shock lockdown looming. :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Sir David Gray
I think it's https://fly.randox.com/ use code TEST21 and it's £43. There are a few drop off boxes around Edinburgh (and elsewhere).Quote:
Originally Posted by James310
I got the info from the JET2 website, available to all, not just their customers.
Best of luck!
Thanks, looks like I left it too late. It takes 4-6 working days for the kits to be delivered and we would need ours on Wednesday (Day 2?) as we arrive back on Monday. The closest pick up point was North of England.Quote:
Originally Posted by speedy_gonzales
See you all in April. :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by silverhibee
A top doctor at NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde is urging people to stay away from A&E unless their “condition is life-threatening”.
https://news.stv.tv/west-central/peo...hreatening?top
Daily Scottish update:
2,403 new cases since yesterday - 8.7% positivity rate
Increase of 2 in the confirmed cases in hospital since yesterday - 896
Increase of 1 in the confirmed cases in intensive care since yesterday - 61
4,302,382 people have now received their first dose of the vaccine - 2,733 people since yesterday
3,890,477 people have now received their second dose of the vaccine - 2,069 people since yesterday
* No deaths registered since yesterday
* Due to a data issue, no new deaths data is available today. We hope to include the latest deaths in tomorrow’s update.
You don't have to pay £68 anymore when you return to Scotland; you can use the list England has and it just has to be a PCR test. For example I used a Randox PCR test two weeks ago at £43.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
Don't be silly!Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir David Gray
You'll be able to visit all the family and friends, apparently it only spreads from people you don't know. :agree
Seemingly you need pick these up in England though.Quote:
Originally Posted by ardecos
Home delivery is £43. I have two sitting here right now awaiting a test tomorrow. You then drop off in one of their boxes which for me is next to Murray field stadium.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir David Gray
No, mine was posted out to my house by courier. As Speedy Gonzalez said you put the completed test in a Randox drop box. I used the one at Roseburn but I think there's another couple of them in Edinburgh. The addresses are on the Randox website.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir David Gray
Ordered mine Wednesday. Arrived Friday. Home delivery.Quote:
Originally Posted by James310
Ah right ok that's good, I was just basing it on what another poster said this morning.
In that case you might be able to get the £3 one listed on the UK Government website that I mentioned earlier.
https://www.find-travel-test-provide...test-providers
Good luck with actually getting a PCR test posted out to you for £3. About 90%, or more, of the companies on the list are cowboys.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir David Gray
All the cheap ones are click and collect, all based down in England. The £3 one you collect from Peterborough. Next cheapest one after that you need to pick up from Stockton on Tees and so on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir David Gray
The holiday PCR idea is a sham designed to look like they are doing something, whist just giving money needlessly to a private company. The wife and I arrived back late Sunday night and posted our Randox tests on Monday morning. We then never received results until Thursday afternoon. Should we have been positive at the time of test we would have been out and about in the community / work for 4 days before finding out. We weren’t positive and had taken a couple of lateral flows each for peace of mind prior to the result. Waste of £86 when lateral flow would have actually been more effective!
Think I'll just stay in Scotland until all this nonsense is over.Quote:
Originally Posted by James310
Seems like more bother than it's worth.
I was about to agree with you, until I realised I'm going to England in 3 weeks time :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Sir David Gray
I’ve no reason to doubt you and I’m sure it can work if you go that circuitous route. But the gov.uk website is actually very clear, if you’re arriving in Scotland (or Wales or NI) you should be paying for the £68 one. I’m not willing to take the chance of being stung for two tests just because some officious prick somewhere says I haven’t followed guidance. We should be treated the same throughout the UK.Quote:
Originally Posted by ardecos
44,985 cases and 135 deaths registered in the UK today.
The gov.scot site is also very clear. If arriving in Scotland, you can buy a home swab 2 day PCR from a private company in England.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
https://www.gov.scot/publications/co...ist-countries/
Fair enough, that’s not made clear anywhere on gov.U.K. Mrs Bollah has just laid the money down so that boat has now sailed. ****ing nonsense the lot of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by speedy_gonzales
Needs must. I'm personally gambling by holding out for a few more days just in case things do change here on Monday.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
Some interesting results from this months times survey that they have been taking each month. People seem happy to do England's plan b but no further. More Interestingly it looks like protecting the economy will overtake lives for the first time in what should be the main focus. Attachment 25224Attachment 25225
Graham medley the lead of sage says on radio 2 that he thinks England probably won't need plan b. The reason is the result of booster jags being so good, that there should be a drop in hospitalisations in around a months time
Found this funny
Attachment 25226
Breakdown of today's cases by council area;
Glasgow - 218
North Lanarkshire - 201
Fife - 184
Edinburgh - 175
South Lanarkshire - 139
Aberdeenshire - 119
West Lothian - 111
Highland - 94
East Ayrshire - 90
Falkirk - 87
Aberdeen - 82
Dundee - 73
Renfrewshire - 71
Perth and Kinross - 66
Dumfries and Galloway - 65
North Ayrshire - 56
East Lothian - 53
Argyll and Bute - 51
South Ayrshire - 49
Angus - 46
Scottish Borders - 45
East Dunbartonshire - 45
Clackmannanshire - 43
West Dunbartonshire - 42
Stirling - 38
Midlothian - 38
Moray - 35
East Renfrewshire - 31
Inverclyde - 21
Orkney - 17
Na-h Eileanan Siar - 6
Makes Yusaf's much-derided comments pale into insignificance. That doc is so going to feel the opposition fury...Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir David Gray
Like that! Found myself wondering today when 5G was excluded as the cause of the pandemic. You don't hear that claim anymore so it must have been addressed at some point. I'm glad it got sorted anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
Almost 412 000 difference between first and second jags . Are some who got 1 jag Johnson ? Teenagers only offered one jag ? Surely vast majority of people who agreed to have jag will have agreed to have second ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir David Gray
The statistics I`ve been reading here recently are pretty depressing ( deaths , hospitalisations ,..) though life seems to be almost back to pre Covid ( full stadiums etc ) . I`ve not been to Scotland or anywhere else for almost 2 years but reading comments here it seems people there more or less accept the situation / stats and don`t contemplate a return to strict measures .
Where I am in Spain , there are very few cases ( 10 people in hospitals in a province of more than a milion people and only 1 or 2 deaths per week ) but I haven`t seen even 1 person without a mask in any shop big or small or public transport ( I use buses and trains every day ) in the last 18 months .