581 cases and 119 deaths registered in the UK today.
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581 cases and 119 deaths registered in the UK today.
ThanksQuote:
Originally Posted by Sir David Gray
How does this compare to some of the other European countries, like Spain, France, Germany etc
The deaths are so unbelievable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir David Gray
12 hospital deaths reported and none in the past 24 hours.
107 community deaths is complete nonsense and they really need to get the figures sorted quick.
Don't know if it got posted on here yesterday - but Moderna and Pfizer both joined AstraZeneca in entering phase 3 of their vaccine trials.
Today's figures;Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Whizz
Spain - 1828 cases and 2 deaths
Germany - 129 cases and 1 death
I'm struggling to find the information on France.
Again thanks, showing U.K. figures as dreadful, and too many lives being lostQuote:
Originally Posted by Sir David Gray
There's obviously a suggestion that a lot of these deaths are historical but even if that's the case it makes you wonder how many people were really dying 3 or 4 months ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Whizz
I’d also wonder if there is such a lag in the deaths being reported, is there people dying today who aren’t going to show up the numbers for a few days/weeks?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir David Gray
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Originally Posted by Billy Whizz
This gives a clear picture about how the constituent parts of the UK are getting on.
Ta, that’s quite scaryQuote:
Originally Posted by ronaldo7
Why are the figures so high in England per capita, compared to Scotland, NI and Wales?
France was 725 new cases and 14 deathsQuote:
Originally Posted by Sir David Gray
Cheers where did you find that? I searched for ages and couldn't find anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barney McGrew
Germany has seen a rise in the last few days. RKI suggesting it's down to people mistakenly thinking the danger of infection is over and ignoring the safety measures.Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Whizz
I don't understand why you're so determined those death numbers are wrong? Scotland's deaths via ONS reporting for the most recent week were 7. Multiply that by 10 roughly for a UK number is 70. England's case numbers a month or so ago were 5-10 times higher per capita than Scotland's so that makes a range of 350-700 a week as a rough estimate. Those figures seem to be in line with that fag packet calculation.Quote:
Originally Posted by HH81
The figures from the hospital deaths in England look fine its the non hospital deaths that are all over the place.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocky
The last two days the figures are
107 yesterday
-3 The day before.
Yes that is right they are double counting deaths and then some days having to put minus figures in. How can you trust them?
Different policies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Whizz
In Scotland we've gone for as close to eradication as we can get. Getting the numbers as low as possible gives our test and protect system a chance to keep it under control.
In England, not sure what the policy is, but they seem prepared to accept the higher numbers.
You only have to look at the outbreaks in both countries to see which policy is working. In Scotland, we've had small outbreaks in the borders, and Lanarkshire which have been traced, and stopped. In England we've had Leicester, Blackburn, and Luton, with lockdowns with other places having outbreaks. The population density won't have helped them. I see a new lockdown in Oldham reported this morning. Maybe they opened up too fast and with too many areas of the economy at the same time.
Northern Ireland seem to be doing a great job. Some alignment with the republic looks like it's going well.
I think it's the message being sent out by the respective governments and how that's been received by the general public. "It's safe to go back in the water" seems to be what a lot of people down south have understood, unfortunately that's also the case here in Germany to a certain extent.Quote:
Originally Posted by ronaldo7
Only one of those four populations has a moron telling it to "show some guts"?Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Whizz
The worrying thing about down here is I live near Bradford, Calderdale and Kirklees and all three are on the list of top 20 places with cases. Then nearby you have Oldham, Blackburn and Rochdale. Worry.Quote:
Originally Posted by ronaldo7
I'd keep the doors locked if I were you mate. In surprised it's not got into Manchester in bigger numbers.Quote:
Originally Posted by HH81
Keep safe bud.
That’s a good summary, but it will be hard for us to eradicate, if people from south of the border visit Scotland for say a holidayQuote:
Originally Posted by ronaldo7
This website, It keeps everything updated dailyQuote:
Originally Posted by Sir David Gray
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
https://twitter.com/bbcscotnine/stat...363299841?s=21
I have a lot of sympathy here. Really think we need to look at opening up gym’s again before we lose some of them for good. We have a very low infection rate now and need to get things going again.
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Absolutely - particularly when considering the reopening of gyms will deliver significant public health benefits.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
I have already had the virus and was in hospital so hoping I can't get it again.Quote:
Originally Posted by ronaldo7
Thanks again, that's the website I've always been referring to but they hadn't updated the French figures when I had checked last night.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barney McGrew
I don't necessarily disagree but I think it's a tough judgment call when the primary objective at the moment (which I agree with) is getting schools back full time. I personally wouldn't jeopardise that by taking a risk with opening gyms.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
This article goes into a little more detail on the risks associated with gyms:
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/heres-why-covid-19-can-spread-so-easily-at-gyms-and-fitness-classes#Take-your-workouts-outdoors
Like my sister in law who is visiting from Yorkshire this week.Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Whizz
Absolutely.Quote:
Originally Posted by GlesgaeHibby
Scotland has one of the highest rates of obesity in the developed world and when you add that to the fact that obesity is a significant risk factor in developing serious complications from Covid-19, I'd have thought a safe reopening of gyms and sports centres would have been an utmost priority for the Scottish Government.
Instead we're faced with no one over the age of 18 being able to take part in any non-professional group sports for over 4 months and no one at all able to use a gym or sports centre for the same length of time, with no decision even being shared on when this might become possible.
Agree wholeheartedly. I'm pining for our weekly football slot to be allowed to play again - it's not just the physical health benefits, but the mental health benefits too. I don't get the idea that you can sit in a pub and drink with multiple households around you in a close space indoors, but running about outside where transmission rates reduce significantly is still prohibited.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir David Gray