We all hope that to be fair.Quote:
Originally Posted by WestStandWillie
Laddie can be sublime on his day...
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We all hope that to be fair.Quote:
Originally Posted by WestStandWillie
Laddie can be sublime on his day...
You make several good points but unfortunately not everyone is available. Our options at present therefore remain Doidge and Scott, the latter of course has been available all season. I'd like to see Doidge get a start, he has a good record versus lower league opponents, but I'm not sure Maloney will change his system to play 2 central strikers. We'll know soon enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by The young one
Few rumours on twitter saying Boyle is off. Wonder if it's the Saudi side again?
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Dylan Tait to Kilmarnock on loan
That's what I've been told as wellQuote:
Originally Posted by StevesFamau5
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Thought that might happen but presumed back to Raith.Quote:
Originally Posted by johncrobertson@
What a shame that would be for him - would have been better staying where he was until season endQuote:
Originally Posted by johncrobertson@
That would be a strange one.Quote:
Originally Posted by johncrobertson@
Where did you see this?Quote:
Originally Posted by StevesFamau5
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Is this for real So we have paid money fir McKay and Tait only toQuote:
Originally Posted by johncrobertson@
Loan them out to the Championship
The guy hasn’t even had a chance in the first team yet
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I agree with this, and to send him to one of Raith’s promotion rivals, is a wee bit naughty in my opinionQuote:
Originally Posted by bigwheel
Strange also we brought Bradley back too, can’t play for anyone else now, as he’s played for Ayr and Hibs. He’s cup-tied too as he played for Ayr in the last round
Been confirmed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Since90+2
https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/articl...k-on-loan?s=08
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Official SiteQuote:
Originally Posted by Steven79
Seems we’re making space to spend some cash we have coming our wayQuote:
Originally Posted by Steven79
I never thought of that. Strange move.Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Whizz
He’s nowhere near the level we want to be at just now IMO.
https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/articl...arnock-on-loanQuote:
Originally Posted by Since90+2
Seems strange to bring him back from Raith then loan him out again.
Maybe the new manager feels differently from Jack Ross about whether he is needed for the rest of the season.
Kilmarnock now my new favourite Championship team.
Boyle leaving?Quote:
Originally Posted by johncrobertson@
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Aye agreed, would be a bit pissed off if I was a Raith fan, surely better just staying there for the rest of the season if he was already playing regularly with them. Maybe we just value DM training very highly and think he’ll be able to get him to the next level!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Whizz
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Disappointed with Tait going on loan. Reckon he’d be just as good if not better than Campbell
Also think it’s poor from Hibs moaning him to Kilmarnock, I suppose it’s a business decision though as they may cover more of his wage and perhaps Tait never wanted to go back to Raith.
A loan to a premiership team would have been much better, would imagine a couple would be interested.
Is our admiration of McCinness having an influence of us sending players to him? Developed a fair few at Aberdeen
Is this Boyle rumour as concrete as the one last week that we accepted a 3 million pound bid?
Can he go back to Ayr?Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Whizz
Reading between the lines Tait maybe hasn't impressed all that much on training last few weeks otherwise the whole thing seems very odd.
Jason Naismith
Fraser Murray
Oil Shaw
Stephen McGinn
Dan Mackay
Dylan Tait
Quite the Hibs contingent at Killie now
It's just like Clarke leaving RC early to come here on loan.
Was thinking that myself when Bradley came on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Whizz
Only option is Ayr or us now.
Maybe he’s impressed Maloney a lot? Got to be said I’ve never viewed him as a left wing back where he came on. Think he’d be better suited to the position Wright and Boyle play.
He can only play for Ayr or Hibs this season nowQuote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
So yes he can go back to Ayr
Totally agree! Bad patter from Hibs with TaitQuote:
Originally Posted by Billy Whizz
Bad patter by Arsenal with Clarke too?Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnM1875
Am sure you used to like Hibs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Whizz
No just big bad Hibs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
There’s a few things that have felt a bit “off” with the club in recent times . This may end up not being one of them , but doesn’t intuitively feel like how things should be done …Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Whizz
Hibs bring back Tait for the manager to look at and decides that another loan would be beneficial. Raith already brought in Sam Stanton as a replacement and perhaps Killie were OK to pay all or a good chunk of his wages.
Seems like a good move and see how he gets on with a other team that isn't Raith Rovers.
Raith have a midfielder from the rangers on loan.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigwheel
Maybe Killie are covering more of his wages.
Just catching up is this on twitter or on here?Quote:
Originally Posted by Unseen work
In fairness to Hibs/Maloney we didn’t recall him.
We signed him in the summer and Raith said the only way they’d accept it is if they got him on loan until January so they could find a replacement.
It’s not like he’s been recalled for absolutely no reason then loaned back out.
Fair point ….Quote:
Originally Posted by Unseen work
Sorry it was a sarcastic post based on the rumours this time last week that Boyle was off and we had accepted a 3 million pound bid.Quote:
Originally Posted by 04Sauzee
Seemed to be rubbish as he played against Celtic and no reports in the press but here we are again.
Aye actually it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
😁 It's fine I'm sure everybody would rather if Boyle was going to go it was concluded ASAP .Quote:
Originally Posted by Unseen work
His loan with Raith ended. Maloney has had a look and decided he could do with a loan until the end of the season. Don’t see the issue and don’t see why we’d automatically need to loan him back to Raith.
Good luck Dylan for the rest of the season, shame as now going to want Killie to do well now with both Tait and Mackay.
There are release clauses in loan contracts for good reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnM1875
Hibs can offer Clarke better training and development opportunities. Same applies to Killie and Raith.
Bad patter my erchie.
100% mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by 04Sauzee
3 million would be a huge amount for Boyle, especially at this stage in his career.
3rd place this season gets 3 million due to the conference league group stage don’t they? The way I’d be looking at it is we’re unlikely to catch a consistent hearts at the moment as they’re 10 points ahead. 3 million for Boyle would put us on par with the money they’re going to get.
You never know who we replace Boyle with nah suit Maloney’s style better as tbf I’m not sure it’s one that gets the best out of him.
Better suited for Barrie McKay and players of that ilk.
Very strange to loan Tait. Either turns out hes hopeless or we're signing probably 2 central midfielders. I thought the plan was for him to feature in the first team.
Raith now have 4 players on loan which is the maximum allowed so it wouldn’t have been possible for him to return.
The idea we’ve shafted them after paying them a decent fee and allowing him to stay for the first half of the season so they could find a replacement is total nonsense.
Was that the plan? He’s only a young lad at 20Quote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
Just because we’ve loaned him out doesn’t mean he’s hopeless or that we’re signing another 2 CMs. I’d imagine his game time here would’ve been limited just now
Is 20 really that young? It's not as if we are talking about a 16 year old laddie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart93
Strange given we’re very light in combative box to box players, but Maloney maybe sees sticking with Josh Campbell in that area which limits Dylan’s potential playing time.
Just wish we wouldn’t loan to teams that play home games on artificial surfaces (given how many others have them in that league) - for a variety of reasons, young players regularly playing on real grass is far more beneficial long term, certainly technique wise.
The fact he came off the bench the other night suggests Maloney wants him to be involved so not that strange reallyQuote:
Originally Posted by Billy Whizz
I’d say so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Since90+2
Tait only turned 20 in December.
Campbell is 22 this year and just broke into the team and got a new contract.
Henderson is 22 this year and just signed from Celtic.
Tait has played more than both them already.
https://www.skysports.com/football/n...-international
Here we go.
Doesn’t say how much but I think that’ll be that.
Well looks like he will be away then.
Good move for him and if true I wish him nothing but good luck and thank him for his efforts in a Hibs shirt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Unseen work
Let's see who we have lined up as a replacement as I don't believe we already have his replacement in the building.
I'd rather he went to raith as they at least try to play football.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heisenberg
He strikes me as being a signing from a previous regime. He was also signed when we appeared to be in full blown end of window panic mode.Quote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
Mathie, Ross or both probably liked him.
I'm not writing him off but if Maloney's looked at him and thought he looked like he's unlikely to get much game time this season then he's far better off playing every week and hopefully continuing his development rather than watching Hibs play every weekend.
Providing we qualify for Europe, I like to think we'll have a bit more by way of squad depth for that next season. Having Tait with another half season of competitive football under his belt coming back to start the new season with the rest of the squad right at the start of pre-season might be in everybody's best interests.
So he could be off to Saudi after all.
He can't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brightside
Yeah, he’ll be stood in the middle of the park watching the ball fly over his head all game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brightside
https://twitter.com/ScotlandSky/stat...Qf4E6bWcw&s=19
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Thats the impression I got when we signed him. Seemed like we did want him in right away but Raith refused. It is what it is. I don't see 20 as that young, plenty of 20 year olds playing in top leagues all over.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart93
Very much hope he is a star for us, but this loan is strange, especially with a cup run ahead. Personally would've had him in tonight.
No mention of how much they’ve bid.
Our value was what in excess of 3 million apparently and their last bid was 2.25?
I reckon it will be around 2.75 and Hibs will accept it for Boyles sake.
Why should we accept any offer lower than we want for the players sake?Quote:
Originally Posted by Unseen work
We aren't a charity and if they want him then they should pay the asking price...
If we'd had him in tonight then with Raith having taken up their full allocation of loans then we couldn't have loaned him out again.Quote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
Having not seen him play I can't really comment on whether or not I'd have chucked him in tonight. Is he an improvement on Newell, JDH, Campbell or any of the other new boys? What type of midfielder is he exactly?
We've had players in the past who have grown a bit stale at a similar age by staying at Hibs when they might have been better being out on loan playing for someone else.
This one looks a bit weird to begin with but I can understand why Hibs have done it tbh.
I agree but I think they’ll be bit of an appreciation that he signed a new contract to remove the release clause (appreciate he would have benefited from this too).Quote:
Originally Posted by Steven79
I think Boyle will be itching to get away and this will be the final bid.
Will be a big loss if he goes, his determination and direct play will be hard to replace.
Good move for both parties and now it would be up to Martin to see if he fancy's it. Wouldn't begrudge him if he left and you never know he could return in a few years.
No doubt but the way Maloney wants to play I'm hoping we wasn't going to be relying on Martin every game.Quote:
Originally Posted by LunasBoots
I'm hoping Henderson, Mueller and Melkersen can bring some much needed quality in the final third.
We'll be getting a player back who will understand the rotational fouling system inside out thought.Quote:
Originally Posted by davhibby
Martin Bye-le
I think if we want 3 million we will get it, if another bid has gone in then it shows this team is serious and wouldn't be surprised if the bid matches what Hibs want.Quote:
Originally Posted by Unseen work
I’m guessing we will never know but a few will be on to tell us the truth fact details.Quote:
Originally Posted by Unseen work
Why for Boyles sake? He isn't forcing a move. Hibs must get every penny if we're letting our best player go.Quote:
Originally Posted by Unseen work
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Originally Posted by Unseen work
£2.75m and 20% of next transfer when he moves back for £10m having torn up the WC :agree:
Simple.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steven79
But if they get close, but don't quite meet it?
Like many it’s difficult to feel resentment on this move for Boyle and his family’s sake. He has totally deserved it and played his part in a number of highlights in recent time.
But reality bites, we will be materially weaker as a team and are almost certainly writing off the rest of the season tilt at 3rd place. Boyle can’t be replaced on a like for like basis.
Don't forget the oil well .Quote:
Originally Posted by The 90+2
In regards to Tait being loaned to Killie and the negative comments from some,do these folk never read a thread and just dive in with the pish they spout,Tait was only on loan to Raith for first half of season,Raith being aware of this brought in a replacement in Sam Stanton,they now have 4 loanees which is the maximum allowed, Hibs now have a new gaffer who has decided he feels Tait would benefit from another loan period elsewhere, so where in all of this have Hibs done wrong?
Why is the Martin Boyle deal about what he could earn and not what hibs could get in transfer deal?genuinely find it very strange how this on/off transfer has been reported.
I don't grudge Boyle it personally, but the fact we are losing our best player to a team in the bottom half of the Saudi League with an average attendance of 4,500 gives me the boakQuote:
Originally Posted by Col2
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Originally Posted by Unseen work
Backtrack of the year that one :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Unseen work
Sam signed a 30 month contract.Quote:
Originally Posted by andudare2
https://www.raithrovers.net/51658/sam-stanton.htm
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Insert a first refusal buy back clause in the Boyle deal.
Will be gutted to see Boyle go but it sounds like he’s away. Hopefully we get the replacement right.
Probably because the wages involved are pretty much unheard of for a player at his level and transfer value.Quote:
Originally Posted by tonyrougier123
Been posted on twitter he won't be involved tonight.
probably my cackhanded way of writing m8,was meaning Sam was brought in as a replacement for Tait and they also have the maximum of four loan players,imo Raith would not have been able to bring Tait in,even if they wanted to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steven79
We should have all seen this move coming a mile away, it was staring us in the face the whole time, Martin BOILE.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibiza
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Originally Posted by Mon Dieu4
Tradition and history doesn’t count for anything anymore, just dollars from oligarchs, dictators and gangsters.
By who?Quote:
Originally Posted by HH81
Moira GordonQuote:
Originally Posted by Onceinawhile
They have 3.Quote:
Originally Posted by andudare2
Varian, Williamson and Poplatnik.
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/rait...er/verein/2795
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Originally Posted by andudare2
Good luck to Sam.
Will Caldwell still have some credit in the bank to get Jordan Jones signed?
Seem to recall him and the chairman getting in really well, even when he was sacked
I'm guessing because he has the chance to jump from Hibs wages to around £40k GBP equivalent per weekQuote:
Originally Posted by tonyrougier123
Probabky about 10 times his weekly wage
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So his wages have been negotiated before we accepted a deal?Quote:
Originally Posted by Callum_62
Thought a deal had to be struck with the transfer fee negotiated before the wage?
Sure he's still got a number of years on his contract? Has he fallen out of favour?Quote:
Originally Posted by Unseen work
Isn't he another of those right footed left wingers ? Or inverted wingers they get called these days.
The annoying thing for me about Boyle leaving is that if we had went about our business on the field just a wee bit better he should have been leaving with two Scottish cup winners medals and a League cup winners. The guy owes us nothing though and it’s a well deserved move if it happens.:thumbsup:
Money money money. I guess it’s better then losing him to the OF.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mon Dieu4