Steve Clarke,Scotland manager,he has a good reputation just now,may not be a big enough name in football.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenNWhiteArmy
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Steve Clarke,Scotland manager,he has a good reputation just now,may not be a big enough name in football.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenNWhiteArmy
A candidate for least surprising sacking ever. It's a surprise he lasted so long.Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo70
I don’t think they are mental for sacking Potter, it was just an appointment that didn’t work out.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenNWhiteArmy
I think they were wrong to sack Tuchel though
Ex Chelsea player tooQuote:
Originally Posted by big gogs
Agree regarding tuchel. My point is more about them spending 300M then sacking the manager 2 months laterQuote:
Originally Posted by bingo70
Was an absolutely ridiculous decision to sack Tuchel. Potter was always going to struggle coming in mid season. He's not that type of manager.
Found Potter an odd appointment for Chelsea in the first place. About as far away from a Chelsea type manager as you could get.
Tuchel had a 60% win rate at them , Definitely made a mistake in sacking him . Wonder who they will go for now?Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo70
Nagelsmann maybe?Quote:
Originally Posted by Donegal Hibby
No chance they are going for Clarke. It wil be Nagelsmann to fill in for Tuchel
Forgot about him . Think you could be right there btw .Quote:
Originally Posted by HoboHarry
Then Potter to Spurs or Leicester?Quote:
Originally Posted by Donegal Hibby
Leicester maybe though doubt spurs would be interested in him after how badly he's done at Chelsea though he won't be to worried at being out of work for awhile as the telegraph sport reported he signed one of the biggest manager contracts in there history , said it was £60 million for a 5 year deal .Quote:
Originally Posted by Iain G
I said when he went there it was a job he couldn't turn down but one he would probably regret being offered.Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo70
Potter was never the man for Chelsea but he had to have a go at it due to the size of the club, sometimes being at a smaller club but enjoying yourself is more important.
I fancy Rogers for the Spurs job, the players will enjoy his style of football.
Do people think LJ’s coat is on a shoogly peg or is his job safe regardless of what happens?
I think we need to win next weekend to finish in the top 6 (I know that’s not the case mathematically). Failure to make top 6 I can’t think of a reason to keep him in charge, he’d have failed in every aspect of the job. If we do lose next weekend, does the club make a change?
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Originally Posted by bingo70
TBH I was surprised he was given time after the Hearts game, yes we had a wee upturn in performances but yesterday was as bad as it's been all season, tactics were bizarre going with 5 defensive players against a team we need to beat and at home. Jeggo and Doyle-Hayes sitting infront of a back 3 just allowed Motherwell to come onto us and it was them that looked like the home side. This is not the 1st time he's put out a team with weird selections and it backfired then also, I'm starting to get peed off with this win a couple then lose the next 4-5 games, I'm not confident he'll bring in the right players to make us better.
Can we afford to pay him off, considering what it cost is to sack Ross and MaloneyQuote:
Originally Posted by bingo70
I’m like you.Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo70
He needs to go if we don’t get top 6 imo. It’ll have been an absolute disaster of a season if we miss out again.
That being said, I’ve no faith it will really get any better. The recruitment team got a lot of plaudits in January on the back of a very small amount of games for guys like Egan-Riley and Jeggo but it’s starting to look like that was jumping the gun a bit. I fancy we’ll be scrambling round again in the summer for players regardless of where we finish and I fully expect they’ll be the same type of players we’ve been signing way too many of for years now.
I don’t think it was jumping the gun. When used correctly they’re good players. When used in a 7 man defensive unit with no real obvious outlet it’s no surprise they didn’t look as good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stubbsy90+2
If we lose on Sunday do we wait until we don’t make the top 6 or do the club roll the dice hoping a change might salvage the last 2 games?
He will be here till end of season no matter what. But if we end up outside of the top 6 I'd expect him to go.Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo70
Yes. Yes we can.Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Whizz
If we miss out on top six then the season will have been a disaster. I think we’ll muster enough points to at least get that though.Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo70
The impression I get is that he’s very close to Kensell and I think he’ll be here at the start of next season regardless.
Biggest question I’d have is that I don’t think we’ve really progressed as much as we should and I don’t really think he’s built anything. If you look at the team that started on Saturday you have CJ and Fish who will be away back to their clubs. Marshall, Hanlon and Stevenson who are past their best. JDH is one we’ve already tried to get out the door. Nisbet will likely be sold and Hoppe is another who will be away back to his club. We’ll also have a number of loan players returning to us so I don’t really see us being much further forward than a year ago.
Then it will be another waste of season ticket holders moneyQuote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
There would be very few season ticket holders if we didn't sack failing managers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Whizz
The owners should pay to sack managers anyway. It's their fault if he needs sacking.
Simple answer from me on this is yes his job should be safe regardless of what happens. We had some of the worst decision I seen in many a season go against us and at no point have we been able to field our strongest team all season, plus if you add in the fact the recruitment let him down as well as players that some of us think aren't good enough signed by previous manager's who were put on lengthy contracts who he's tried to move on like JDH , Henderson that wouldn't go I think the guy's also taken the Hibs job at a extremely bad time .Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo70
I'd give him the summer transfer window and next season and then I will judge him . One of the things that worries me the most is the choices some on here want to replace him like Martindale, McInnes , Lennon , Keane , Thompson etc etc hardly a improvement to me but more like a step backwards imo .we all know the team's been poor for a couple of years now and cost two or three managers there jobs . Manager's don't just walk into a club and fix everything right away ( sir Alex Ferguson didn't) .
They’re decent players when used correctly but no more imo. I don’t look at Jeggo for example and see a player that’s going to get us into the European spots, I see another JDH, a guy who will probably be of a standard to have us about where we are now, middle or even lower end of the league. Egan Riley looks like he has a bit of potential but I don’t think he’s a player that would be in a third place side at his current level of ability. Hoppe looks absolutely chronic and Devlin likely won’t play a minute of football.Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo70
Fish has been a decent signing, derby shocker apart, but other than that January looks like much the same as what we’ve been seeing for years now. I fully expect the summer will be the same and we’ll be saying the same things this time next year whilst we battle to get into the top 6, likely with the same guys that have been part of failing sides like Newell, JDH, Hanlon etc or with new guys like Jeggo who will offer much the same as the last guys.
I think LJ should be kept until the split but if we’re bottom 6 I’d probably consider letting him go then so that the new guy is in and ready for pre season rather than wait till the season is over and have the new guy come in a week or two before the League Cup games start.
Hopefully the director of football is in soon and can fix the recruitment as that will hamstring any manager imo much like it hamstrung JR, Maloney and LJ. Without change on that front we’ll continue to sign the same type of players and continue getting the same results.
I wouldn’t worry about who folk on here want in, we don’t pick the next man. I don’t think Johnson was ever really mentioned by anyone on here until he was linked by the media. Hibs will make their own decision regardless of who the fans suggest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Donegal Hibby
With regards to the SAF example, that was 37 years ago. There’s a reason people still use him as an example and it’s because nobody has really came close to replicating what he’s done since.
Hibs fans suggestions on here are absolutely brutal btw . As to people using SAF as a example like I do I think it's important to do so as it reminds fans that even the greatest manager's who take over a club struggling can't do what fans want and fix everything immediately as what happened to Fergie with banners and chants for him to go . 3 years it took Ferguson to sort United out and he did even though fans would have sacked him long before which is a credit to the man U board for sticking with him thru difficult times .Quote:
Originally Posted by Stubbsy90+2
I'm not saying LJ should get 3 year's though I do think another summer transfer window and giving him next season would be the right course of action imo . There's a awful lot of things that need fixed in this team yet and changing the manager at this stage isn't one of them . We can't keep sacking managers without giving them time to sort out issues at the club , we need some stability when it comes to the manager situation rather than fans calling for the manager's head every time we hit a bad result.
Not making top 6 is a failure at Hibs and should mean the manager goes. The league cup groups were completely unacceptable and some of the formations seem off.
I accept Johnson has had terrible luck with injuries this season but the other teams in this league are so poor we should really have still been making top 6.
Got to be honest this is becoming tiring now and feels like we have no direction. We really messed up by not backing Jack Ross 2 summers ago and we are now paying the price.