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Johnson hurting the Tories in Scotland.
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Poll also shows Anas Sarwar more popular than Nicola Sturgeon now. Can't imagine many predicting that 6 months ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...91fb0129fd.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by James310
Think the poll shows that more people just don’t know who he is but you read it your way.[emoji6]
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:faf::faf::faf::faf::faf::faf:Quote:
Originally Posted by James310
Strugeon 53%
Sarwar 46%
How you you judge popularity. How many like you, the net, how little dislike you. Most go with net.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
It's fair to say the linesman is disliked. People have an opinion either way about NS it seems
Sarwar + 19Quote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
Sturgeon +12
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/p...rgeon-27121656
"Anas Sarwar is now more popular than Nicola Sturgeon, according to a new opinion poll.
The Scottish Labour leader came top of the popularity contest weeks after securing second place at the council elections - his party’s strongest showing in years."
I could add lots of laughing emojis but that would be kind of childish, so I won't.
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Originally Posted by James310
The problem with that is the 'don't knows' only 6% for NS but 27% don't know who Sarwar is, the same number who 'dissapprove' of him :faf::faf::faf::faf:
His strongest showing for years! 46%!!!! not even 50% :greengrin
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Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
Doesn't mean they don't know him but don't choose approve or disapprove. Harvey has 37% without an opinion but still a large 30% dissapprove.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
Sarwar has best approval rating, but I still think Sturgeons is decent seeing as she has led for so long
Says it all when a tory voter is reduced to promoting a Labour leader to score a point. There really is nothing to choose between the parties.
There is something to choose between them saying there isn't is just wrong. Yes they are pathetic in working together to get councils ect. Starmer has brought the party very centre swaying into the right. The tories are full right wing. Snp are very centre left, verging on new labour territoryQuote:
Originally Posted by DaveF
Sarwar' best approval at 46% yet sturgeon is still at 53%.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
I Did get an A for arithmetic o grade and know what is better
Not necessarily when a huge number dislike you. But that comes with being the incumbent for so longQuote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
https://mobile.twitter.com/Tony_Dive...18299176898562
Tony_Diver
Pretty extraordinary article here from Tobias Ellwood, where he argues we should rejoin the single market to ease the cost of living crisis, even if it means accepting EU regs and freedom of movement.
Is anyone else in his party going to back this idea
Boris ripped a new one by mums.net 😆
https://youtu.be/irhtoo35VQo
If you find standards in public life impossible to meet, just change the rules. Why isn't the process totally independent? No PM should be able to reduce public standards to his own gutter level ethics.
https://youtu.be/2YBngJC2evg
12 years, cost of £3.2 billion, not a single vehicle deployed, soldiers discharged due to health problems caused by testing and delays are a risk to national security.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/f...rces-wz062n6v3
I am sure it will get the same BBC airtime as the ferry scandalQuote:
Originally Posted by Mr Grieves
Daily updates I'm sure. Intriguingly the media aren't taking the party political angle with quotes from every opposition leader sticking the boot in, it's simply the MOD's fault.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
Johnson booed by the crowd as he arrives at St Pauls for jubilee service
https://twitter.com/vicderbyshire/st...AJhI0rtWnsBUJw
BrilliantQuote:
Originally Posted by grunt
He'll think they're booing Antoinette.Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
Indeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert Saunders
https://twitter.com/LevellingDown/st...VIf6bmgKQ&s=19Quote:
Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
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I'd be happier about Boris getting booed if I didn't suspect the majority of the crowd weren't having days out from mental institutions throughout the country.
Heard a rumour that more letters are going in tonight and the threshhold will be passed. fingers crossed.Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by heretoday
Yes, a Royalist crowd booing a Tory PM. That means he and his party have big problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
I can’t imagine it being true. Now or anytime soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by James310
Labour haven’t enough significance in this country, even if he had the potential to be pretty popular.
It's not true, he is on 46% approval compared to sturgeon on more than 50%. The way he is twisting it is that 27% disapprove of Sarwar and another 27% couldn't care enough. Whereas all the unionists polled disapprove of sturgeonQuote:
Originally Posted by WeeRussell
Lol, you keep at it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
https://www.holyrood.com/news/view,a...emain-dominant
"Scottish Labour’s Anas Sarwar is Scotland’s most popular party leader with a net satisfaction rating of +18 while Prime Minister Boris Johnson has sunk to an all-time low at -71."
All these media outlets keep getting it wrong!
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/p...rgeon-27121656
"Anas Sarwar more popular than Nicola Sturgeon among Scots voters, poll finds"
LOL you can dress it up any way you like but more people approve of sturgeon than Sarwar.Quote:
Originally Posted by James310
Yes, more people disapprove as well, but as I said, all of the unionists will have disapproved of sturgeon while only half of them would disapprove of Sarwar, the rest would disapprove of Ross.
Sky News were reporting it as "Johnson getting booed by crowd" but someone has obviously been on the blower to them and they're now reporting it as "Johnson getting booed and cheered by crowd".Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
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Oh I get it, don’t worry 👍Quote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
I can believe your last line right enough!
…. We’ve never seen any papers like the daily record print anything that isn’t entirely accurate.Quote:
Originally Posted by James310
+19 is higher than +12, I don't think anyone can argue with the accuracy of that.Quote:
Originally Posted by WeeRussell
You’d think not, but then I didn’t think anyone could argue which is higher out of 53 and 46.Quote:
Originally Posted by James310
LOL nobody is arguing with that, it's the way it's arrived at and somehow becomes Sarwar is more popular than sturgeon that's the joke!Quote:
Originally Posted by James310
Sturgeon 56
Sarwar 46
I think it was, but somehow a Tory is saying that Sarwar is more popular 🤔🙄
That is the standard way to show approval rating. Many commented when boris and Douglas Ross had negative approval. Not saying its the best way, but you can't pick and chooseQuote:
Originally Posted by James310
You think 1953+70=2022 though, so I'm not taking your arithmetic as gospel.Quote:
Originally Posted by James310
It is the standard way, that why all the media are reporting it that way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
Aye, but the truth is out there 😉🏴Quote:
Originally Posted by James310
More than 100 women were sent to Scotland by NHS England for eating disorder treatment amid a bed shortage
https://t.co/f4C2Syk0gY
Not enough beds in hospital for eating disorders.
£10m Well spent 😉
To be fair there's been cross border stuff for all sorts of stuff, probably since the NHS was founded.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
Keep this on the back burner for the inevitable assault by Dross on Scottish patients being shipped down south for treatment, never mind the many folk living in the border area whose GP is based in the other county.
The bigger point is they mean the square root of **** all. You know, I know and I'm sure James310 knows too that anas sarwar is never going to win an election in Scotland.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
https://twitter.com/shippersunbound/...62hvhthALMbqKw
Vote of confidence this week?
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They don't mean anything for elections, but they can mean a lot for leadership of a party. If boris keeps up his negative rating he'll get the chop. I'd guess Sarwar is safe even though he's a Starmer, Blairite tool. If NS went negative I guess she'd be for it too. But she's done very well to keep the ratings positive, especially as she is very much the establishment in Scotland and had such a long time in chargeQuote:
Originally Posted by degenerated
good old editing by state TV.....Supertanskiii on Twitter: "The BBC have: - Removed the boos from footage of Johnson at St Paul’s. - Replaced his disheveled cenotaph appearance with footage from years prior. - Removed audio of audience laughing at him on Question Time. Funny how their “mistakes” always favour him, isn’t it?" / Twitter
i do like that tweet from user 'Katy' further down the page
Think the booing will have made an impact, surely will be one. Will he win it thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Tool being the operative word :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
Sarwar was not a Blairite, he was a Brownite and he's not a tool either. :aok:Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
A reminder that Orwell worked at the BBC. The fictional "Ministry of Truth" is based on the national broadcaster.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
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He's certainly a tool and brownite is hardly a compliment. Privately educated in Scotland like Blair also. Centre right along with Mandelson, Starmer and the jambo pluke Murray. He'll definitely no get culled by Starmers war against the left, that's safe to say.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
Didn't take long to find a story!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack
Women and girls forced to have abortions in London due to ‘shameful’ lack of care across*Scotland
Women who wanted to have abortions during the pandemic have continued their pregnancies due a chronic and longstanding lack of access to late-stage terminations across Scotland, a leading charity has warned.
https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/women-and-girls-forced-to-have-abortions-in-london-due-to-shameful-lack-of-care-across-scotland-3719583
Or 2 days to be fair 😂Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack
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Originally Posted by Jack
What exactly constitutes a 'late stage termination'?
Richard Vaughan
@RichardVaughan1
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Tories believe a vote of no confidence in the Prime Minister is “fairly nailed on” this week.
Rebels accuse whips of using “threats, intimidation and blackmail” as they “scramble attacks” on mutineers
Latest from me and
@HugoGye
https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/no...ohnson-1670443
23 weeks in the uk. You'd need medical assistance anywhere near that date, as it couldn't be delivered at home I'd assumeQuote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
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Originally Posted by Kato
coincidently i finally got around to watching some of the HP films the other night on sky and my very first thought was 'TORIES' when the janitor dude was forced to put up a lot of new 'laws'.......'kin Tories :cb
https://twitter.com/josiahmortimer/s...Rnfz74POw&s=19
Dodgy email stuff on Johnson from his time as Mayor of London. At a guess they could include dodgy stuff on his affair with Acuri, dodgy stuff on his Russian paymasters at The Telegraph and dodgy stuff on his Putin linked pal he put in the HoL. Probably some more dodgy stuff in there as well.
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Sounds like the No Confidence vote will be called very soon now. ITV news briefing the 54 MP threshold has been passed.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2022/jun/06/boris-johnson-confidence-vote-graham-brady-tory-mps-live
I would care, if I had any confidence that the next bassa would be any less objectionable.
Win the vote tomorrow, stay on for the good of the war effort, limp on for a couple of weeks of extended booing, more internal Tory party drama after by-election wipeouts, then after another month an 'alas' speech and that'll be it. THANK **** FOR THAT, even if the next bassa is objectionable.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
Vote/ballot from 6pm this evening!
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I can’t see anyway that they get rid of him tonight?
There’s no obvious alternative candidate so can see Johnson winning but leading a split party which becomes even more unpopular. Ideal scenario actually!
I actually have a funny feeling he might lose tonight.Quote:
Originally Posted by stokesmessiah
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Worst outcome for them is boris winning. Public have lost faith and it won't be won back. If he loses, some other basket will come in. The newcomer will say partygate was nothing to do with me, this is a new regime ect. When inflation drops worldwide they will also probably somehow try to take credit for it
That’s why I think Hunt is in a good position. He has kept himself well away from Johnson and spent last couple of years on back benches. Hasn’t made a fool of himself on TV everyday trying to defend him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
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Will the Prime Minister that doesn't flush finally disappear behind the U-bend?
So many Tory voters saying they won’t vote Tory for “as long as Boris is in charge”. If he wins tonight I think they’ll be lost to the Tory party for a lot longer if they’re seen to back him.
https://twitter.com/johnpenrosenews/...8Dr19sMEw52MGg
He’s done for.
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Several days too late for my liking. But you’re right, that’s a proper sign of the rats deserting a sinking ship.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Hoping Johnson calls a GE out of vindictiveness. Think that there are enough in his party who follow blindly enough to help vote it through.
Penrose is Mr Dido - thanks for the memories (and the moolah), BJ. :na na:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Also, "anti-corruption champion". :faf:
When you see Johnson's history all laid out like this:
https://twitter.com/ByDonkeys/status...65420427186179
It's just incredible that the Tories and subsequently the public ever elected him. Absolute ****bag.
I think Johnson will win this tonight, however ultimately he will be forced out by the end of the year, probably earlier
Could the opposition benches then call a VONC and force the back benches to change their mind and back Boris or potentially trigger a GE? Boris is poison to publically back just now so it would force their hand.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skol
Nadine Dorries
@NadineDorries
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3/4 Your pandemic preparation during six years as health secretary was found wanting and inadequate.Your duplicity right now in destabilising the party and country to serve your own personal ambition, more so.
Latest rant at Jeremy Hunt that accidentally seems to admit that we were unprepared for the pandemic due to the Tories.
The gift that keeps on giving.
The Chris Grayling of her generation within the nasty party but gets a few extra nasty points.Quote:
Originally Posted by Northernhibee
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I expect Bozo will survive tonight's vote then all the patter will be "getting on with the job, now the issue has been put to bed" :rolleyes:
We will probably need to wait until the general election before the Tories decide to ditch him.
I just cannot comprehend on any level why anyone supports Johnson, and more so can justify supporting the tory party as a whole.
The whole ****ing thing has been an unmitigated disaster.
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I thought he was teflon but this crisis will take a bit of getting through for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba
Lovely to watch.
Neither Alister Jack nor Douglas Ross were one of the 54 MPs who submitted letters.
Ross in particular is all over the place on this. He must have been promised something.
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I'm pretty sure that David Cameron gif where he's supping up the salty tears was made for situations like this one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
For seasoned politics watchers a Tory leadership election is good TV, but it’s really a bit of a charade. The evil policies won’t change, if they do it won’t matter to the overall direction of travel; more authoritarian, more bashing the poor, more endorsement of the profit motive taking over every aspect of life.
There’s also a definite feel of an imaginary football group stage with all your most hated teams in it, Group Bassa: Rangers, Hearts, Paris St Germain, The England National Team, Uruguay 1986 Vintage. The only good outcome is plenty injuries red cards and fans rioting in the stands.
99 have now come forward saying they will support, he needs 180Quote:
Originally Posted by GlesgaeHibby
Hopefully Johnson wins by a few votes and they tear each other apart for a few months. Revealing their personal ambitions will rile each of their own rivals.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
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The best result would be 180 bang on. Not enough to bin him but enough to show he's only there by a baw hair.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
He'll get shredded every week in the commons and he's lost the public. It'll set them up to lose the election which is the ultimate goal.
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The usual suspects with the Tory party who would have no chance of progression or keeping their job under a normal leader have been quite vocal but there's not been a ringing endorsement of Johnson since. I have a feeling he might lose this.
Tory donors urging MP's yo keep him on. The motive for this is unknown other than he is an asset for various vested interests, both in the UK and inbetween Poland and the Urals.Quote:
Originally Posted by Northernhibee
https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/stat...C5JSwjo8w&s=19
This please.Quote:
Originally Posted by Just_Jimmy
I wonder if there will be more defections in the coming days if he wins?
I suspect not but if (when?) they get pumped in the 2 by-elections later this month, it will kick off againQuote:
Originally Posted by Northernhibee
110. just needs 70 out of 250.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
Probably slither out of it
Tory politicians and tory voters have one thing that drives them, personal gain. When they vote later today they will not be voting for what's best for the country or even the tory party, they will be voting for what they think is best for themselves. Johnson will scrape through this and will be unceremoniously dumped in the lead up to the next GE.Quote:
Originally Posted by Northernhibee
Tory party donors have to be taken into consideration. Those ones in the Lords, and the KGB.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
https://twitter.com/kat_cary/status/1533821456043352064
Longer term I think a Johnson win tonight might be no bad outcome.
The next calamity is only a couple of weeks away at most. Whilst he seems able to shake off a lot of things individually, the cumulative effect is starting to prove troublesome for him. His incompetence, lying and flip flopping is increasingly an electoral liability for the Tories.
If they replace him with someone who is evil but competent that could still see an election victory against a powder puff opposition. Another couple of **** ups, make the job even more toxic and get some utter buffoon (and there's no shortage of them lining up) in there a few months before an election.
£80m wowQuote:
Originally Posted by ronaldo7
125 now. 45 no confidence. Needs 55 out of 190Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7