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Millions will die? Where are you getting that from?Quote:
Originally Posted by hibeerealist
:greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by DaveF
That is worldwide not UKQuote:
Originally Posted by HoboHarry
St. Mirren are fast turning into the nemesis of Hearts :greengrin capitulating to Celtic in 1986, beating them in the League Cup Final in 2013, and cementing their place at the foot of the table in 2020 and very possibly relegating them. :aok:Quote:
Originally Posted by theonlywayisup
Can we have black and white stripes as an away kit next season :greengrin
I thought that's what Budge was saying would happen when Hearts get relegated.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoboHarry
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lol:agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
So is Budge going to take the SPFL to court when they don’t get their share of the prize money?? After all by her reckoning the league/season wouldn’t be complete.
If the league is null/void then the SPFL may not have an obligation to pay out any prize money however if it is deemed complete then the clubs will then get what they are due, depending on their league position.
I bet most clubs, whilst not happy, would agree that the season was complete in order to get what was due.
Some fun times ahead I reckon.
FWIW I am also certain that Doncaster and Co will have sought the relevant legal advice prior to making any decision..... wonder Budge fancies taking on FiFA/UEFA too
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https://twitter.com/scotlandsky/stat...637932032?s=21
Interesting to see if the organisations that concocted the 5-way agreement can find their way through the current period of self interest
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Budge quoted in the DR that she will take legal action.
She had a chance to act in a dignified manner about all this, but I can see it ending in humiliation for her now.
Yep. At least she has the backing of the huns now.Quote:
Originally Posted by jacomo
Not what she is saying on the BBC - saber rattling for her audience and she likely knows she is on a loser with legal action....Quote:
Originally Posted by jacomo
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/51914718
Totally agree, appeasing her audience. Taking legal advice and taking legal action are two separate things. The action won't happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoboHarry
Or is she doing this and trying to say if you do relegate us regardless of the rules we will screw up the next season with a court case. Maybe trying to force the SPFL etc hand?Quote:
Originally Posted by HoboHarry
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This is not the time for threats of legal action FFS.
This is unprecedented and there is no easy or right answer. Whichever is taken impacts someone.
Seems to admit they are in financial trouble as well?Quote:
Originally Posted by HoboHarry
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Aye, begging bowl is out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Seems so. I wonder if their anonymous donors will be willing to pony up or if they've suddenly found themselves in the financial doo doo also. I'm not gloating over this as I think we're all going to suffer financially to one extent or another.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Not quite. Stewart’s statement stops short of threatening legal action. I would be willing to bet that, in the event of UEFA making an unpopular decision for them, neither club will actually begin legal action. They couldn’t afford to lose.Quote:
Originally Posted by 90+2
Dangerous tactic Aldo - they take legal action could the SFA then say 'well you're not competing in any competition until the case is heard' and lose their place as an associated member....'we'll replace you with Kelty Hearts :greengrin'. As I understand it, an associated member has to comply with the rules and duties of members as set out by the SFA. One of which is complying with the directives of the Board (SFA).Quote:
Originally Posted by Aldo
Say they are relegated and (Hearts) win any legal action (when they are playing in the Championship) - when do they get reinstated and in place of who ?
I honestly think the SFA and SPFL will play safe and restructure for a season or two and they'll avoid relegation.
I thought the SFA could decide when a season was finished
Can't find the clause now but said something like 38 games or when the board sees fit to call it season end
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Wouldn't imagine they would be reinstated if it went to a court case would more than likely lead to a hefty pay out instead imoQuote:
Originally Posted by truehibernian
Anyway I thought it was illegal to try and take a a governing body to court?
"In the current circumstances I hope common sense would prevail and that an exception is made in applying the 15 point deduction. I want Hearts to stay up because we deserve it and we win the points on the pitch"
😕🤯😂
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Originally Posted by HoboHarry
Not sure how that contradicts with what I posted - one way or the other, she is saying that Hearts will not accept relegation.
Overall, though, I am loving the desperate tone of her comments. She sounds like she is in real trouble.
Bye bye Hearts.
It just had to be the wee huns and huns who are most upset - you couldn’t make it up.
Budge is worried..very worried..
She’s toast if they go down as fans will rapidly turn on her further.
I know it’s a minefield and slot of supposition and ifs/buts and maybes.Quote:
Originally Posted by truehibernian
Tbh I’m sure the SPFL/SFA will make sure they have covered all their bases from a legal perspective but why do they (Hearts) have to put a statement out? Appease the hordes.
I really do hope they get relegated but what’s the bet the SPFL screw someone else to save hearts.
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Reading that article would indicate that they are again living outwith their means and in financial difficulty..... even if they have insurance? Players offering to return wages etcQuote:
Originally Posted by jacomo
O and the fans to donate even more to help them.
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They could always appeal to the Lithuanian government or some random submarine captain to help them out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
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https://twitter.com/scotlandsky/stat...637932032?s=21
This is weak from Budge. She knows they don’t have a legal leg to stand on.
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So she's going to ***** more fans money on a legal case she won't win while there's a stand to finish and high earners to get rid of for the Championship season starting?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Very much this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frankhfc
Ffs old Self sufficient Southern has just been wheeled out by the bbc. I wondered where he was hiding.
Shameless.Quote:
Originally Posted by Since452
“We are going to fight this”
PS were skint, gives your money in a time everyone is worried about employment.
What will they do if Heriot Watt closes down?
Fife College announced it was to close earlier, if Riccarton gets closed they will have to make alternative training arrangements as well, you'd imagine.
Is sighthill pitz still open?Quote:
Originally Posted by matty_f
Why would the train on a pitch that’s bigger than they are used to? [emoji41]Quote:
Originally Posted by 90+2
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Training for what?Quote:
Originally Posted by matty_f
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They'll still have to train.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
I think after tomorrow the season will be over and players will be sent away.Quote:
Originally Posted by matty_f
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I think I read today that Hibs, Aberdeen and another couple of teams have advised their players to stay away!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
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East Mains is closed until the 23rd at least I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aldo
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Makes sense. Season is over imho so no point in putting players etc at riskQuote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
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Maybe not gloating but there would have to be a strong element of schadenfreude and knowing head nods from the people here who’ve been pointing out, for a number of years now, exactly how much HMFC have been over spending on their project. It’ll be no surprise if they find themselves in serious financial difficulty.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frankhfc
This eejit thinks that it should continue.........Quote:
Originally Posted by Aldo
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/51913599
I don’t think it’s if they find themselves in financial difficulty I think they are after Budges comments today. Surely they budget wages and outlays from the start of the season and that should contain a contingency?? But no wait it’s Hearts!Quote:
Originally Posted by cocteautwin
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True.Quote:
Originally Posted by cocteautwin
They certainly have a track record of spending vastly over and above their means. Their exhorbitant costing new stand may yet prove to be their undoing if they can't use it for its secondary purpose which was as an extra revenue stream.
Hopefully find out in the next few days.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoboHarry
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Yasss :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Aldo
Hearts and Sevco going bust wouldn't be quite as good as the SDG final but it would be a close run thing...... :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Aldo
Edinburgh Uni doing remote learning from Friday.Quote:
Originally Posted by matty_f
1s and 2 year exams cancelled.
3rd year exams online!!
The uni library and gym open but if they decide to shut you will probably see HW close but Hearts would train at back pitch at Tynie.
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Originally Posted by HoboHarry
So they want the season to continue, but only if fans are allowed in, but large events may be banned for up to 4 months, getting is to mid July.
How will that work?
I am sure I heard that Diabetes is one of the at risk groups. I would imagine Scott Allan is being very careful. Hearts are threatening Legal action. Says it all reallyQuote:
Originally Posted by Aldo
Like Budge, I think he knows what is going to happen so he is saber rattling because he needs a scapegoat(s) if it goes mammaries skywards.......Quote:
Originally Posted by jacomo
It is indeed. Tbh football is secondary to ensuring the health and well-being of those involvedQuote:
Originally Posted by Skol
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Surely the mystery benefactor will bail them out. In the short term it is a problem for all clubs but if we do resume in say 12 weeks the losses can be minimilised. It's not only Hertz that will be relegated or is it as usual all about them and the rangers where sporting integrity is concerned. Funny how it never bothered them when they were spending tens of millions on players they couldn't afford.Quote:
Originally Posted by cocteautwin
They were already £4m short at the start of the season having spent most of the early season ticket money when most clubs keep this money in the bank to be spread out over the season. The anonymous benefactor probably injected this £4m similar to previous seasons. Won’t get confirmation of this until the next accounts are published.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aldo
They’ll have had a bit of an unexpected financial shock due to the new management team and extra players signed mid season.
If the benefactor or Budge isn’t putting in more cash they will be in serious financial difficulties. From what I can gather though, Budge has received back her £2m from FoH so I’d imagine she’ll need to put that back in to the club as another loan to keep them ticking over.
If the season ends now and HMFC don’t get the cash from the cup run, extra income from the final games, and they get relegated then I would predict that unless they get significant outside injections of financing then HMFC are looking at another administration/insolvency event.
Living outwith their means yet again snd if some anonymous benefactor hadn’t ploughed millions in already they wouldn’t have been able to post a profit (not sure how much) sure £3 million was quoted in one of their accounts.Quote:
Originally Posted by cocteautwin
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Anyone know when the Hearts documentary will be on. This will be must see TV 😅
Yep, that's how it reads, they should probably just owe it to themselves for a bit until the crisis is over then declare self sufficiency before having a right good go at the Championship. They've got all that experience of doing it so well before.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
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He doesn't. They are just spreading dissent to muddy Celtc's 9iar.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoboHarry
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He should know what’s going on, he’s on the spfl board that is making the decision.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoboHarry
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Budge will know that being relegated cures many of her financial woes at a stroke of a pen
9am -
announcement of relegation
9.01am -
cancel expensive contracts of players like Boyce etc who have relegation clauses, save a 7 figure sum
9.02am
Receive sponsors money for league placing / end of season
9.03am
Aaaaand Breathe....
Don't forget the cakes, they do a very nice Battenburg and the pre admin fondant fancies are looking a real possibility.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aldo
They really should have just concentrated on amassing more points than St Mirren and Hamilton instead of making documentaries and trying to be a big team owned by thousands of flumps called Duncan.
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So we have hearts and the Hun complaining about integrity and fairness. The irony is off the charts. **** off you pair of low life, cheating, thieving, disgusting bunch of ********s. Completely unapologetic for your previous crimes and I do mean crimes cos that's what they were. Huns to win nothing and the tarts get relegated is the right decision. To be honest in a time where national emergencies are being declared a two bit excuse for a football club who have robbed charities should be the least of anyone's worries. **** them
Indeed BH and let’s not forget the Cash [emoji230].Quote:
Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
Thing is it’s like it’s everyone else fault they are in this situation. Cut your cloth accordingly and always include a contingency however let’s blow millions on a single tiered rust bucket (we know how that has gone) and mismanage money.
She’s already said that staff may have to take unpaid leave etc. Does this mean they may but be paying the bills?? Council tax or business rate or whatever it’s called?
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You could not make it up!Quote:
Originally Posted by weecounty hibby
Well said WCH
Soon, going by IMDBQuote:
Originally Posted by 04Sauzee
https://m.imdb.com/title/tt9073898/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0
How much money did they pay for Boyce. Will Boyce get the same money anywhere else? Does he have a release clause?Quote:
Originally Posted by Springbank
I think her a#&e is twitching like a bunnies nose
Their decisions will I'm sure be based on direction given by FIFA this week.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
I'm sure the council and the stewards of the Oriam will diligently pursue Hearts for payment of all the money they are due for their services. They definitely won't want to end up as stiffed creditors like the last time/their predecessors.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aldo
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Exactly. **** them. Karma's a bitch.Quote:
Originally Posted by weecounty hibby
If this is the case all I will say is .. we shall see!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
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We really do need a sarcasm smiley.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aldo
Last time around the council were extremely generous/ supportive in not pursuing the accumulated business debt as they would other city tax payers, and Heriot Watt let a large debt accrue for rent without seriously pursuing it.
Why would this time be any different?
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Boy on Kickback has all the info on what's happening with thee league this year and next. Seems legit 👀
https://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index...title-amended/
Last time they were in the bidding process to get Oriam and having Hearts there was seen as a help in their bid. They have Oriam now and might not be so charitable this time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
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Indeed however did chase OAP’s for missing a few payments yet they let them away with around £100k worth of failed payments which they never recouped.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
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He should get a bloody life. :yawn:Quote:
Originally Posted by 04Sauzee
Needs to lose his virginity prontoQuote:
Originally Posted by 04Sauzee
Agreed, my cynicism stems from the apparent reluctance of anything and anyone publicly funded to nail Hearts for money they're owed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
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He's got his facts wrong in his 1st sentence because more than 75% of the matches have been played not less so he's probably talking bollocks.Quote:
Originally Posted by 04Sauzee
78.947% barring 2 teams how have only played 29 games (I’m sad)Quote:
Originally Posted by 007
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Just watched the BBC interview with A Budge she looks totally wiped out, the news she has been given (relegation) has shattered her she is almost in tears when speaking. Not the emotion of a person who MIGHT get bad news (ie relegation) over next week or two, she HAS been told!
That thread is comedy gold.Quote:
Originally Posted by 04Sauzee
:greengrin
Don’t hold back 😂😂👍Quote:
Originally Posted by weecounty hibby
Hearts are going down.
Seriously though, I hope she’s okay.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibeerealist
Sporting integrity?
It's almost as if the Romanov years happened at a different club, which they would have if they'd gone for a straightforward liquidation.
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If this is true then I'm starting to believe Karma really does exist :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by hibeerealist
The dawning realisation that her relationship at Tynecastle with Mr Midas Touch himself Craig Levein is surely reaching its finale?Quote:
Originally Posted by hibeerealist
:greengrin
She really did look broken and ill. All joking aside I genuinely hope she's OK.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibeerealist
I wonder if the mysterious benefactor has taken a serious haircut with the crash in the markets over the last couple of weeks. They may not be in any position to prop them up again which is why Budge is looking so worried and saying this stuff.
Maybe it finally does HH :agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by HoboHarry
Don't wish her any ill will either.Quote:
Originally Posted by 04Sauzee
However, the confident manner has disappeared and she really did look wiped out. She knows THEM will turn on her and she, along with Potter, will get the blame for relegation.
Down a league. And down the pan (financially).Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibeesmad
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Originally Posted by 04Sauzee
Yeah and then they are going to give Hearts a medal for being the Bestest and there will be a party on the plaza and Pele will bake a cake for Ann and everything!
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Originally Posted by ShadesLongThrow
Well the Harry Potter studio tour has closed, so...
The SPFL were holding discussion with clubs this week. Budge releasing an interview like that must mean she’s been told hearts being relegated is the plan. If they said we are looking to finish the season later in the year, then there is no way she would give this interview.
Bye bye ya cheating fuds
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Originally Posted by hibeerealist
I don’t wish her any ill of course, but she really needs to take her medicine here.
Don’t talk about ‘sporting integrity’ and then propose a hasty league reconstruction to get yourselves out of trouble.
Likewise, don't wish her any ill will personally. She's been paid back so I don't know why she didn't just complete the transfer of ownership as well and get the help out of Dodge. She probably now feels that she can't now leave in the current circumstances and is regretting not leaving as soon as she was repaid.Quote:
Originally Posted by jacomo
Not a chance of baking a cake. There is no flour in the shops.Quote:
Originally Posted by jacomo
They really are screwed this time.
**** them.