Followed a link on here today and ended up there unintentionally. I feel so dirty.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarrenSQH
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Followed a link on here today and ended up there unintentionally. I feel so dirty.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarrenSQH
"Following the end of the share issue on December 19 we will be reviewing all possible options in order to address the remaining gap if the share issue is not fully subscribed."
Share ISSUE??
I thought it was just Vlad selling 10% of his shares, rather than an actual share issue (like Murray failed with at Rangers)?
If it's just Vlad selling his shares then surely there's no "subscription" targets that need to be met?
:confused:
I wouldn't waste any time trying to make sense out of anything that hearts say mate. They are so full of lies and ***** that I would feel sorry for the fans if it was any other team than hearts.Quote:
Originally Posted by StevieC
Mentioning anything about negative financial figures over there is considered blasphemy and it instantly makes you a "hobo at the windup".Quote:
Originally Posted by DarrenSQH
Pretty ironic that they refer to us as hobos, when they're evidently the biggest beggars out there. :rolleyes:
Would have been better selling these at the start of the season:na na:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mon Dieu4
If it were Vlad selling his shares, then there would be no cash flow for the club. New shares, though, do provide cash flow. No matter what they are up to, they have to dress it up as a new share issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by StevieC
Surprised he's wasting money on Babestation when he has a team to 'save'.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...porn-babe.html
What did the prospectus say?Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Is it new shares and do they need to genuinely meet a subscription target .. or is it, as you suggest, just "dressed up" as a new issue?
Is that news, I mean really?Quote:
Originally Posted by R'Albin
I'd hardly say she was tricked into it, she's paid to do whatever the desperate chumps that phone up ask her...
That's an incredible statement.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibbymac
Can't pay their players on time in October some defer wages - nearly everyone defer's November's salaries yet somehow they'll strengthen the squad from fund raising sums, cakebakes and share sales? Wonder what the players not paid make of that nonsense. The lunatics have well and truly taken over the asylum.
Why anyone would continue to give them a penny is beyond me, yambam or not.
It's nice to see that faced with a situation where a scantily clad soft porn actress tells you she'll do anything you ask.......you average yam's first thought is about Hibs (again)......Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottB
on the plus side, that should help slow down their procreation......
Hope it was worth the tenner in call charges just to get someone to hold up one finger on one hand and five fingers on the other hand! :aok:Quote:
Originally Posted by R'Albin
Having said that, he's probably phoning her up every other night as I can't imagine he's getting much excitement any other way.
I hope he gets that pic blown up and hung on his bedroom wall......it might remind him in years to come that he once had a team to support.Quote:
Originally Posted by R'Albin
Their foul clubs existence is hanging by a thread and THIS is what obsesses them......it`s beyond belief.
Shameful admission time, but I had a brief 'encounter' with a girl who dated........Christian Nade.......I know I know. Last thing I was thinking about was 0-7 let me tell you !!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Disc O'Dave
Haven't seen her for ages.....just hope Christian didn't eat her when peckish !
You probably wouldn't recognise her. Have you ever read 'Flat Stanley'?Quote:
Originally Posted by truehibernian
Do the defered wages need to be paid by a certain date or are they on hold indefinitely?
Let me tell you mate, she could have hid behind a lamppost - the complete opposite in physique to Mr Nade - she said he was very boring and had poor English - apparently my French wasn't half bad though !Quote:
Originally Posted by s.a.m
She told me a right good story about him toiling getting his yellow Lamborghini up Milton Street though !
Do the SPL care ... their heads are collectively in a bucket of sand.Quote:
Originally Posted by green is good
Unusually for them it would appear that she's at least past the age of consent.Quote:
Originally Posted by R'Albin
The SPL suits will probably be relieved to have found a 'get out' from the Jambo financial problem. I don't think we'll hear any more on the subject of non-payment of wages. I suspect that the 'kid-glove' treatment of HOMFC has something to do with the resignation of Stephen Thompson.
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Originally Posted by degenerated
See That My Bike’s Kept Clean!
Get your tickets via Zebra Finance cash or cheque only, who the heck are Zebra finance!! Comedy gold really is, yip can't pay the players we have but will sign more in Jan.... Surely even these idiots can't fall for this one.
Loved the begging to local businesses for money also, what a disgrace they are.
You might be onto something there right enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim44
So whats happening then. are they goosed?!
:agree:yup. I was thinking similar. Thompson trying to exit with a modicum of integrity. not sure yet,as he may come out with a real reason why he walked. Petrie, there's an empty chair waiting:wink: hold on, he would not, would he?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim44
Zebra do our ST finance comedy gold ehQuote:
Originally Posted by JCHibby
Their club takes them for a ride while they fail to get a ride themselves. :agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by R'Albin
Heard from Celtic fans that one of them was dressed as Jimmy Saville at the Celtic game, either in honour of Graeme Rix or because they were planning on doing a bake off 'for charity' i suppose...
Was a picture of him on KB last night but they took it down. Guy standing in the middle of the hearts fans with a Celtic top, Saville wig, jewellery, specs and a cigar.Quote:
Originally Posted by joe breezy
They don't do irony.
Wouldn't surprise me if SPL had a quiet word in Hearts board's ear suggesting the deferred wages as a route to take.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim44
Even when they’re having a ***k they’re thinking about Hibs.Quote:
Originally Posted by R'Albin
And hoping they can finish before the oven beeps. :agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by Danderhall Hibs
Cannae be selling burnt cakes, now.
BBC were reporting that Steven Thompson's resignation was down to clashes with SPL chairman Ralph Topping.
Nowt to do with the Hearts.
:agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by WhileTheChief..
Thompson kept telling Jim Spence about what was happening in SPL board meetings. Donkeycaster and Topping were fed up with it.
Has Topping not resigned?Quote:
Originally Posted by WhileTheChief..
He is leaving at the end of this season (or perhaps the end of the year?), but he is still there for the moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Whizz
This thread does seem to go off on a tangent a lot.
So...
Does anybody know what happened yesterday regarding the 1.3 million tax hearing?
Nope (and it's £1.75M). Even assuming that something significant happened, you wouldn't hear about it publically.Quote:
Originally Posted by gogse
1. HMRC won't declare (taxpayer confidentiality)
2. Hearts wouldn't declare (as it would be bad news)
3. There wouldn't be any immediate court process chasing the amount due because HMRC would give Hearts 30 days to pay after the amount is agreed.
So Sevco offered to pay £500k in full and final settlement a week or so ago - an act of opportunism in light of HoMFC's problems. Their offer was never going to inprove so it looks like this is all they'll get for Simpleton. It's an act of desperation by the Yams that will see them through Monday, but you have to wonder where that £700k that they've raised has gone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spike Mandela
This patient is on life support
I wish somebody would walk past and kick the ****in' plug out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibby Kay-Yay
I thought it was an 800k payment to be paid in 2 installments, wasn't it? The first now and the second some time in the new year. This 300k is the first installment, and they will get the rest as expected.Quote:
Originally Posted by Caversham Green
If they are still here to collect it. Hopefully it will just go into the creditors pot.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Green Goblin
I Think The Operation Was A Success,But The Patient WILL Die. :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Hibby Kay-Yay
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Originally Posted by Hibby Kay-Yay
They should be NFR as they say in hospitals - Not For Resus :agree: :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Www1875hfc
I can think of a more colourful meaning of NFR.Quote:
Originally Posted by FranckSuzy
:wink:
Think its DNR Do Not Resus. The other good one used in Dunfermine for your standard patient who is in for falling over but is found to be suffering from Impitigo, a raging case of clymidia, is clinically obese, reeks of drink, is a bit yellow, only got 4 teeth, has beer bottle specs and is looking for his banjo NFF Normal For Fife could also be NFG if in West EdinburghQuote:
Originally Posted by FranckSuzy
The £800k was due to be paid next July (I think) under the original arrangement but Sevco, seeing their wee cousins in trouble, offered to pay £500k immediately as a final settlement a week or two ago. The Yams refused that offer, but as things got more desperate thay have had to accept the new lower offer.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Green Goblin
I thought the £800k was for Wallace, and Huns offered £500k as early settlement (which was turned down).Quote:
Originally Posted by Caversham Green
Isn't this £300k a payment for Templeton, which is as per agreed?
That's my understanding.Quote:
Originally Posted by StevieC
Looks like I'm getting my Yamhuns mixed up then - they all look the same to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by StevieC
I thought the Wallace debt had already been paid up though - Didn't Mr Green say Sevco were now debt-free? Surely he wouldn't fib.
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Originally Posted by Caversham Green
I think Mr Green is a stranger to the truth !
Was it ever revealed what the Templeton fee was ? Is there any more money due to Vlad's pension fund ?
Unbreaking News
I have it on very good authority, i.e. a member of staff from the company who do Hertz accounts, that HOMOFC have won their tax case against HMRC and will announce so soon. They are going to let their flump fans keep dishing out CASH just now well you would wouldn't you, after all tis the season for giving. I have no opinion of this either way because to me Hertz are an irrelevance in my life. The coming days will tell us all if this info is correct - apparently case was heard on Friday and Yams won their argument. Hopefully we will pump them royally today, with a decent ref etc and each man doing his job.....
GGTTH
I would just like to express my disappointment to all the people on this thread that were supposedly 'in-the-know' or 'experts-on-such-matters' that we are here on December the 2nd and not getting a bye in the Cup because of the demise of Hawrts and it seems that, in fact, they will survive to January after all.
Thanks for getting all our hopes up guys!
:na na:
So.... we now have two leaks which say exactly the opposite. Both of these suggest breach of confidentiality which, although it satisfies the gossip (in me as much as anyone), annoys the hell out of me.Quote:
Originally Posted by fatbloke
Perhaps we can have an open discussion on here between the two leakers as to who is right, with evidence, and thereby who should be losing their job? :cb
both lose their jobs, surely, if they're openly discussing a client's affairs (whether or not they're leaking actual facts)?Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
I just passed on what the chap said. Mostly I find Yams talk drivel but they keep me amused:greengrin I do not care if they fold or if they stay - they are in life just an irrelevance same as the Smellies and Rankgers.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
It's okay.... not blaming you. It's just completely at odds with Deep Throat.Quote:
Originally Posted by fatbloke
Can we call yours "Disny Swallow"??
... is the correct answer. :agree: Even somebody putting crap out there about a client or taxpayer is reprehensible IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by clerriehibs
:faf:Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
All I can say is D. T. had absolutely no reason to bull**** and I believe what she told me. Obviously she would not know of any non-tribunal agreements between HMRC and HMFC.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
I get CWG's displeasure at any loose talk but where would this thread be without it.
As for breaking the Tax Payers Charter, should the Yams not be referred to the Tax Non-payers Charter. :greengrin
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Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
But where would hibs.net be without such information?
:greengrin
:greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
I think we should have mud wrestling after the game, to settle this......
Can't be true,Yams don't do accounts! I would be very surprised if above was the case.Quote:
Originally Posted by fatbloke
It's a combination of both.Quote:
Originally Posted by StevieC
£300K was due for Templeton, which has now been paid.
£500K is due for Wallace next summer.
Rangers offered £500K up front a month ago to settle both bills.
To add to my prior comment I don't think that at the moment it's a case of either Yams or HMRC winning or losing a tax case. My simplistic understanding of the process is that HMRC have assessed Yams as owing £1.7mm because of payments made to players in Lithuania rather than UK. Yams can either accept or contest that ruling. If they go the latter route they will have to provide some new information that would allow a clarification of understanding from HMRC that could result in a reduction or foregoing of the amount owed. I think it's quite possible they're currently in this quasi negotiation process but based on all known info it's hard to think of any plausible or mitigating excuses Yams can make. There won't really be a winner or loser until this process is exhausted.Quote:
Originally Posted by fatbloke
What I think clouds the issue is that it's in HMRC's interest for Yams to stay alive in order that as much tax as possible can be recovered. In that case they may settle for a smaller amount rather than risk getting nothing. Hopefully Cropley or other experts can clarify more fully.
It's not quite like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by brog
HMRC have issued assessments, HMFC have appealled against them. The appeals have been referred to the First Tier Tax Tribunal, in much the same way that Rangers were.
There are two options at that stage. 1. Either party can say "can we talk about this?" If the other agrees, then there is more talking. 2. the FTTT decides on the case; again, like Rangers, that doesn't have to be a "guilty or not guilty" decision.... it can, as with Rangers, be a "not fully guilty" decision.
I can't tell at this stage where Hearts are at. AFAIK, they were headed for the FTTT, ie Option 2.
According to the lovely Deep Throat, they withdrew from that process, which suggests they now accept the assessments and the only negotiation required is on the amount of the penalties. According to the rancid Disney Swallow, the FTTT found in their favour.
That's where we're at for now..... tune in tomorrow etc etc.
"Deep Throat" sounds a lot more plausible than "Disney Swallow" because the judges would have to go away and consider their verdict first (not necessarily for as long as the Rangers case!) if there was a full contested hearing. The two parties would not have any firm indication who had "won" at this stage if the hearing was contested. I think it's worth noting at this point that there were all sorts of rumours during the Rangers case of settlements being offered (which was true in one case, but it was rejected by HMRC) and various reports that it had been decided one way or another.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
This result could see the Jambos totally collapse, lets hope so. :greengrin
Ok. Monday 3rd Dec.
Is this not the day Hector come knocking for his £450k?
I wonder if anyone will answer the door. If it had been paid j would have expected a press release and some emotional words from the yams on the official site.
Hope that cash they have raised is still in the UK and traceable....
Tick bloody talk yams!!
They'll be hoping that the Scottish cup fifth round draw is kind to them....ohQuote:
Originally Posted by Col2
Ah well, at least their cash isn't being diverted to repair damage done to another teams stadium caused by their own support...oh
Been nice knowing you lot. :greengrin
Barry Anderson@BarryAnderson_8#Hearts will settle their outstanding £450,000 tax bill before 5pm today. Full story in today's Evening News
Barry Anderson@BarryAnderson_8#Hearts received £300,000 installment from #RFC on Friday as part of David Templeton transfer. That money now goes towards HMRC bill.
Will Rod send them a cheque today for their share of the gate yesterday?
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Originally Posted by s.a.m
Has Barry Anderson commented on the damage caused to ER? Now that's newsworthy ... but probably not, as he'd hate to print a bad news story about hearts
Heard Vlad will only accept cash!Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Whizz
Maybe we'll get a bottle of Famous Goose vodka and a vintage cigar box as an apology :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by clerriehibs
Tax bill settled according to Hertz....I'll believe it when HMRC confirm it.
Had a wee look on Keekback to cheer myself up as I have an awfy cold. (diddums)
The natives are revolting...A lot saying they will not go back whilst McGlynn is still there.
Made me think how their season is going to pan out. Apart from our game they are unlikely to get anywhere near a sell out. Especially if they finish bottom 6 and have no 2nd derby or Celtic matches to boost attendance. They have already raped their supporters pockets to such an extent that they can't dig any deeper. Expect crowds of around 12,000 maximum including season tickets. That will go nowhere near meeting their costs. Roll forward to next season if they survive and struggle on in the SPL. How many of them will buy seasons to watch a boys club? 6 or 7,000 at the most. Average gates of 9,000 with a large debt requiring servicing. I maybe am starting to look forward to a long painful death but will quite happily accept an early Christmas present
If they had drawn yesterday, won the replay and a full televised house against Aberdeen/Motherwell it could all have been so different.................. Did we finally break the Hearts? I hope so.
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Originally Posted by PatHead
Quite a few of that lot given their track record :greengrin
:agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by PatHead
It's a shame they are still in the semi of the CIS cup final - as without that they would only be able to aim as high as top 6.
Bottom 6 could finish them without games against us and Celtic :bye:
Let's hope ICT win the semi final at ER
.... and that HMFC have an outstanding night in the battle of the seats. :cbQuote:
Originally Posted by NJ Hibee
Is the £450,000 pound bill paid today a quarterly thing? If so then we can only be about 6 weeks away from when it's due again?
They have to pay double wages by the 16th of this month to avoid SPL sanctions as I can't see how they could fail to punish a further deferment.
I've got a sneaking suspicion that they will get away with paying one month's wages on the sixteenth and allowed arrangements to pay the deferred wages as soon as possible or even in installments. You can rest assured that the SPL will not rock the Jambo boat if they can avoid it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
No. It's arrears, probably for three months including September.... although that's not clear.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
They should be paying PAYE & NI monthly. The payment today didn't include October's money, which was due on 22nd November. There will be another one due on 22nd of this month, which will be the amount due on the reduced wages paid in November.
If they pay the deferred wages this month, then they will have a much larger amount of PAYE & NI to pay in January.
And that's just PAYE..... I don't know how up to date they are with their VAT payments; those are due quarterly, although I don't know when that quarter falls.
vat period September to November due for payment at end of December I think?Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Cheers. Didn't know that.Quote:
Originally Posted by South Sub
However, to be pedantic, if they submit on line they have until 7th January to pay. That extra few days could be significant, given the New Year game.
:agree: I actaully thought that they would have scraped a draw against us, and they nearly did. the money it could have generated, and the boost their fans badly needed, just never happened. now I look forward to them being knocked out of 2 cups in the same stadium, within weeks :greengrinQuote:
If they had drawn yesterday, won the replay and a full televised house against Aberdeen/Motherwell it could all have been so different.................. Did we finally break the Hearts? I hope so.
Die, die, die, die !!!!:thumbsup:
I think Sunday was a result that may, in time, prove more significant than the cup final. Had they won, it would have boosted their 'staying alive' campaign. They now have, League Cup semi apart, nothing to play for. A few I know are resigned to the fact that the end of their wee jolly is coming. They are socially different from us, in that they dont react well to adversity. Had that been us, we would have clocked Romanov much more quickly and would have sidelined him to ensure the survival of the club. I think it's a mindset thing that goes back to the roots of the respective clubs. We have always been the underdog outsiders. They have always been the establishment poodles. They don't like it up them and they don't have it in them. It's going to be fun!
Evening News reporter tweeting there will be BIG news for Hearts fans Tuesday. Expect early announcement from club.:cb
Is there a link to the tweet?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spike Mandela
He has locked tweet but our good friends at sickback have copy and pasted........
“@jamb0skickback: Evening News reporter @DavidJ_McCann just tweeted this "Big news for Hearts fans in tomorrow's EEN. Expect early announcement from the club"”
Sounds like an additional bring and buy sale will be held on 2feb as its now a free Saturday for them. That's big news in eh11 these days people
Presumably the chance to buy more shares, or longer to buy the rest of the ones they haven't snapped up yet?
BOGOF offer on shares perhaps?Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottB
Maybe the price has been lowered to 10p a share ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by South Sub
I'm going for (in no particular order):
- they've won their big tax bill appeal
- they've lost their big tax bill appeal
- McGlynn is being transported to the salt mines
- McGlynn has been given a contract extension
- Vlad has relented and paid up all debts in full, and without expectation of recompense
- Vlad has changes his phone no. and address, and can no longer be contacted
- Skacel has signed, and will play for nothing. Ever.
I think I've covered everything. I win.:rockin:
£1.5 million deal agreed with HMRC. Bill to be paid over 3 yrs, starting May 2013.
Heart of Midlothian Football Club (Hearts) is today pleased to report that it has resolved a dispute with HM Revenue & Customs (HMRC) about liabilities to tax and National Insurance Contributions ("NIC") relating to the arrangement between Hearts and Kaunas FC whereby players were loaned to Hearts by Kaunas FC.
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The resolution involves Hearts paying a total sum £1.2m in tax and NIC plus £300k of interest in staged payments to HMRC over a three-year period beginning in May 2013. Under the agreement with HMRC no penalties are payable. The tax tribunal hearing due to begin in November 2012 has been concluded without any evidence being heard.
Club director Sergejus Fedotovas said: "We are satisfied that this resolution provides the club with an opportunity to now move forward with certainty. We believe that the payment terms agreed with HMRC allow the club to manage repayments in a way that will not be detrimental to longer-term development of the club."
The final settlement figure is lower than the amount assessed by HMRC of £1.75m, excluding interest and penalties, (as stated in the club's Share Issue brochure) and brings to an end a contingent liability that has been highlighted in the club's annual accounts since 2009.