Depression and anxiety

Does anyone have any experience with CCBT (Computerised Cognitive Behavioural Therapy)?

I'm in the middle of trying to get to grips with one particular system. I'm not a huge fan of CBT itself, but I do understand how it works for many. This program takes that one stage further, and allows a patient/client to go through a CBT process online, either supported or unsupported.

At first sight, it seems self-evident as to how it works. However, I'm looking to get some anecdotal evidence, either from a client or a supporter. There's not a lot of opinion out there , other than 1 academic study that I have found.

Any thoughts would be welcome.

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Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod

Does anyone have any experience with CCBT (Computerised Cognitive Behavioural Therapy)?

I'm in the middle of trying to get to grips with one particular system. I'm not a huge fan of CBT itself, but I do understand how it works for many. This program takes that one stage further, and allows a patient/client to go through a CBT process online, either supported or unsupported.

At first sight, it seems self-evident as to how it works. However, I'm looking to get some anecdotal evidence, either from a client or a supporter. There's not a lot of opinion out there , other than 1 academic study that I have found.

Any thoughts would be welcome.

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Not been involved personally and it contains no feedback but there is a description of a CCBT course of treatment for gambling disorders below CWG.

The system employs some telephone counselling at certain junctures to review progress I understand.

I'm not for or against it particularly and have similar thoughts about CBT in general as yourself. I've heard anecdotally of a few positive outcomes and reviews via a couple of IAPT counsellors I know.

I suppose the slight cynic in me senses a whiff of money-saving about it but I wouldn't want to dismiss it either. I find that most of my clients have too many complex needs to make a CCBT course apt for them.

https://www.gamcare.org.uk/get-suppo...ine-treatment/

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Originally Posted by stu in nottingham

Not been involved personally and it contains no feedback but there is a description of a CCBT course of treatment for gambling disorders below CWG.

The system employs some telephone counselling at certain junctures to review progress I understand.

I'm not for or against it particularly and have similar thoughts about CBT in general as yourself. I've heard anecdotally of a few positive outcomes and reviews via a couple of IAPT counsellors I know.

I suppose the slight cynic in me senses a whiff of money-saving about it but I wouldn't want to dismiss it either. I find that most of my clients have too many complex needs to make a CCBT course apt for them.

https://www.gamcare.org.uk/get-suppo...ine-treatment/

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Thanks for that, Stu.

The only reviews I have seen (of the system I am looking at) are on the provider's website, and of course they are going to be positive. They are along the lines of it's .... convenient, anonymous, stigma-free, sense of control, flexible.

I can understand all of that, and they're decent arguments. But, I want to hear what not's good about it, so that I can decide whether it's appropriate for the people that want to use it, or whether the deficiencies can be overcome. (I always look at the bad reviews on Trust Pilot first:greengrin).

Other than the (presumed) argument that it's impersonal, and doesn't allow for those moments in a therapy session where things take a 90degree turn into something unexpected..... I can't see the problems, but I know they must be out there.

As an aside, the provider is the contractor for the NHS throughout the UK, so I look forward to an independent review soon. :rolleyes: Either that, or some journalist telling us that the CEO is the cousin of a Cabinet minister. :greengrin

On the CBT note, I noticed this on hotdealsUK
https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/cog...amazon-3589696

Free CBT kindle book
It seems to get good reviews/feedback on amazon https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B086WQ5J7Q

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On the CBT note, I noticed this on hotdealsUK
https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/cog...amazon-3589696

Free CBT kindle book
It seems to get good reviews/feedback on amazon https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B086WQ5J7Q

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May download that mate. :aok:

I’m am just now really really really suicidal

And I just wanted to post the above because the last post I made out and shat it. I’m looking at a wardrobe and got a belt and really really fancy it.

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Originally Posted by The 90+2

I’m am just now really really really suicidal

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Please phone the Samaritans mate

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I’ll miss so so many people my children that I’ve not see since I left their mum eventually being treated like **** but the way I’m living is worse and people saying it will get better don’t know a **** if they’re missing their daughter in P1 and having to live with the guilt trip of doing everyone for them and it seems I’ve just deserted them. I’ve not now slept for two weeks 🤣🤣 she said I could meet her and my baby who is two yesterday after I was at the doctors in her area only to say nah I’m not man enough to tell my family I was meeting her even though I said I would take a video for my mum. I genuinely genuinely hate my life and only do so for my children and not to Upset my parents. I keep looking at how to end things now. At least I’ve life insurance for the children.

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Originally Posted by Jones28

Please phone the Samaritans mate

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Nah. I’m far deeper than that pal.

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Originally Posted by The 90+2

Nah. I’m far deeper than that pal.

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Pick up the phone mate - dial anyone. 999, your doctor, your mum, Samaritans - anyone. Talk it over. Doesn't have to be like this. Your daughter/children will need a father alot more than a few grand insurance money. Think of them.

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Originally Posted by The 90+2

I’ll miss so so many people my children that I’ve not see since I left their mum eventually being treated like **** but the way I’m living is worse and people saying it will get better don’t know a **** if they’re missing their daughter in P1 and having to live with the guilt trip of doing everyone for them and it seems I’ve just deserted them. I’ve not now slept for two weeks 🤣🤣 she said I could meet her and my baby who is two yesterday after I was at the doctors in her area only to say nah I’m not man enough to tell my family I was meeting her even though I said I would take a video for my mum. I genuinely genuinely hate my life and only do so for my children and not to Upset my parents. I keep looking at how to end things now. At least I’ve life insurance for the children.

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Mate, your children need their dad more than they need an insurance pay out.

Take a deep breath, think about it and phone 999. There are crisis teams on call who can help you through this, same as any other medical emergency.

I know it's hard and feels hopeless, so many of us on here do but you are not alone. PM me if you need to chat.

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Originally Posted by The 90+2

Nah. I’m far deeper than that pal.

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Money is no replacement. These kids won't look and see a bank balance, they'll look and see they're missing their dad. Please call someone

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Originally Posted by The 90+2

I’m am just now really really really suicidal

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PM sent.
Your a son and a father. Hang in.
Go for a walk, phone someone. Whatever it takes until the feeling passes.... and it will.

Where do you live are you in Edinburgh area i can come right now and talk to you I've been there thank god i didnt

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Originally Posted by The 90+2

I’m am just now really really really suicidal

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The guys are reaching out to you.
Post briefly to let us know you are safe.

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Originally Posted by The 90+2

I’ll miss so so many people my children that I’ve not see since I left their mum eventually being treated like **** but the way I’m living is worse and people saying it will get better don’t know a **** if they’re missing their daughter in P1 and having to live with the guilt trip of doing everyone for them and it seems I’ve just deserted them. I’ve not now slept for two weeks 🤣🤣 she said I could meet her and my baby who is two yesterday after I was at the doctors in her area only to say nah I’m not man enough to tell my family I was meeting her even though I said I would take a video for my mum. I genuinely genuinely hate my life and only do so for my children and not to Upset my parents. I keep looking at how to end things now. At least I’ve life insurance for the children.

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Take all the advice and assistance being offered to you on here mate.

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Originally Posted by The 90+2

Nah. I’m far deeper than that pal.

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You're not - speak to someone asap, you can PM me and I'll PM you my number if it helps.

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Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod

Does anyone have any experience with CCBT (Computerised Cognitive Behavioural Therapy)?

I'm in the middle of trying to get to grips with one particular system. I'm not a huge fan of CBT itself, but I do understand how it works for many. This program takes that one stage further, and allows a patient/client to go through a CBT process online, either supported or unsupported.

At first sight, it seems self-evident as to how it works. However, I'm looking to get some anecdotal evidence, either from a client or a supporter. There's not a lot of opinion out there , other than 1 academic study that I have found.

Any thoughts would be welcome.

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Ive had CBT and benefitted greatly from it, a few years back. Very basically its the process of changing negative thoughts to more positive thoughts.
Sadly, its transpired that Im ill again and am actually starting another course this afternoon although sadly its not face to face.

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Originally Posted by The 90+2

And I just wanted to post the above because the last post I made out and shat it. I’m looking at a wardrobe and got a belt and really really fancy it.

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Please phone someone mate

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Originally Posted by kaimendhibs

Ive had CBT and benefitted greatly from it, a few years back. Very basically its the process of changing negative thoughts to more positive thoughts.
Sadly, its transpired that Im ill again and am actually starting another course this afternoon although sadly its not face to face.

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It worked for you before, so you're already well-armed to do it all again. :agree:

When you say not face-to-face, do you mean it's with a therapist online, or is it an online course that you take yourself?

Its with a therapist arranged by my employer

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Originally Posted by kaimendhibs

Its with a therapist arranged by my employer

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Ok, by Zoom or similar?

From my side of the fence, the therapist, the process works just as well as F-to-F. In some cases, it's even better, as the client is in their own environment, and often able to relax more.

That said, it works best when the client is comfortable with the whole notion of the remoteness.

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Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod

Does anyone have any experience with CCBT (Computerised Cognitive Behavioural Therapy)?

I'm in the middle of trying to get to grips with one particular system. I'm not a huge fan of CBT itself, but I do understand how it works for many. This program takes that one stage further, and allows a patient/client to go through a CBT process online, either supported or unsupported.

At first sight, it seems self-evident as to how it works. However, I'm looking to get some anecdotal evidence, either from a client or a supporter. There's not a lot of opinion out there , other than 1 academic study that I have found.

Any thoughts would be welcome.

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Done a 8 week course with CBT earlier this year, which has made a big difference to myself and in life in general.

They ask you questions of how you feeling each week and discuss any negative thoughts you're having.

Todays is a normal phone call but future sessions will be either zoom or other video call. Previously CBT really pulled me back from the brink but ive relapsed. Without getting into detail on here a lot of my issues have been caused by personal tragedy

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has anyone spoken to 90+2?

mate if you're reading this, I echo what everyone has said! I deal with people in crisis daily in my job, I've thankfully never suffered past feeling low but I see the impact daily.

I've also had to tell families the worst news and trust me, suicide is the worst news you can break to any family. suicide is brave but fighting back and fighting on is much much braver when you feel like it's on top of you.

reach out, any one of us are hear to listen, phone 999 and ask for someone to come. just don't do anything daft because one day your kids will ask why. it's much better if they ask why didn't you and you can say "because I loved you too much".

reach out and please be safe.

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has anyone spoken to 90+2?

mate if you're reading this, I echo what everyone has said! I deal with people in crisis daily in my job, I've thankfully never suffered past feeling low but I see the impact daily.

I've also had to tell families the worst news and trust me, suicide is the worst news you can break to any family. suicide is brave but fighting back and fighting on is much much braver when you feel like it's on top of you.

reach out, any one of us are hear to listen, phone 999 and ask for someone to come. just don't do anything daft because one day your kids will ask why. it's much better if they ask why didn't you and you can say "because I loved you too much".

reach out and please be safe.

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I’ve exchanged a few texts earlier. :agree:

Not really my place to go into it but think he’s ok at the moment.

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Originally Posted by matty_f

I’ve exchanged a few texts earlier. :agree:

Not really my place to go into it but think he’s ok at the moment.

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excellent news.

hopefully he's back posting soon.

if you read this mate, glad to hear youre trying. keep going and message me anytime.



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Originally Posted by matty_f

I’ve exchanged a few texts earlier. :agree:

Not really my place to go into it but think he’s ok at the moment.

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Good stuff, well done for reaching out, I'm glad to hear he has been in contact, although I don't know 90+2 I have been concerned and hoping he is ok, I don't know the right or wrong thing to say but keep talking to people, you have support on here if you need to talk, tommorow is a new day

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