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Both stv and the BBC going with the same storyQuote:
Originally Posted by Berwickhibby
Accountants Johnston Carmichael’s decision to resign came before Wednesday after reviewing its client portfolio and existing resources and commitments, STV News understands.
The timing might appear a godsend to the SNP BAD crowd but they had already taken the decision before the dawn raids in Uddingston
Auditors. And I haven’t seen any thing from either party to say who dropped who?Quote:
Originally Posted by Berwickhibby
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Did the police inform them of the impending garden dig. We need to know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
Keep believing that Murrell is transparent and honest :faf::faf::faf::faf:
Maybe the polis thought they were better at digging than the auditors. :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by ronaldo7
Could this just be coincidence then and this would be a normal time to quit? A natural break of sorts?Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
I don't think the UK national news would lead on the SNP changing auditors if the events were regarded as unconnected.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
Nobody seriously believes Sturgeon's spiel about being unaware of her husband's impending arrest.
:greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
Of course this was all a coincidence St Sturgeon knew nothing. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Berwickhibby
So they audited them incorrectly clean, and then “dumped the SNP”.Quote:
Originally Posted by Berwickhibby
Is that the suggestion?
It should be borne in mind that these raids will not have come as a big surprise to those on the inside. The police have been investigating this missing £600K for a long time and like other cases of suggested financial impropriety, the authorities like to get hands on with the paper trail chasing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
That being said, the auditors/accountants if at all concerned have had ample opportunity to manage their exit plan.
Not my suggestionQuote:
Originally Posted by WeeRussell
Has it been decided if a by election is required in Margaret Ferrier's seat yet?
Bet Humza will be relsihing that. A split vote between Ferrier and an SNP candidate and Labour ready to throw everything at it. An SNP win was always quite unlikely but this will make the task all the harder.
I daresay Starmer and Sarwar wouldn't want to be seen to be missing what is a bit of an own goal either mind you.
Nae need! [greetin emoji]Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
Can only be a by election if she's suspended and 10% of electorate there sign up to recall her. Boris potentially in same picture so thought by some that suspension might not happen so as to not set a precedent. Not saying that's okay, like.
Needs to happen and any medicine that has to be taken is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glory Lurker
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By nae need, I meant as if it's not been an upsetting enough week without thinking about what other horrors might befall!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
The Times newspaper, on Good Friday:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FtIfkMMX...g&name=900x900
:faf::faf::faf: not very appropriate but funny 😄Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
The film was. The funniest ever made in my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Berwickhibby
But that? I’m not sure it could even be called a joke. Regardless of who the subject was and how inappropriate it is, it’s surely for the very simply amused.
It’s irreverent and funny. Something sadly lacking in Scottish politics. I am very easily amused though. :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by WeeRussell
No, hang on.
There was a cartoon this year depicting Sturgeon as decapitated, and now a cartoon showing political figures crucified?
None of that is cool. And I say that regardless of whose heid is shown on the ground or which bunch of bams are on the cross (whatever configuration it takes).
It's no that funny but it's not offensive as it's no 1950, well Kate Forbes might disagree. Same people that find it offensive probably would have found the wonderful life of Brian offensive when it first came out
Nah. I've just got this natural aversion to cartoons depicting the death of folk.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
Casually depicting violence against politicians is dangerous and very problematic. The people doing it obviously feel it serves a purpose and it will be lapped up by their target audience.
I can’t watch Eric Idle singing Always Look on the Bright Side of Life without recoiling in horror at the violent imagery. And I’m sure Pastor Jack Glass would have agreed. :agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rumble de Thump
How very fitting, it's what the Romans did with anyone who threatened their empire.Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
I just joked on the other thread about guillotining the royals it wasn't meant though..
"Down with this sort of thing" as father Ted would say
If you had a point to make it would be more helpful to just share it.Quote:
Originally Posted by marinello59
https://news.stv.tv/scotland/deal-to...-nhs-test-beds
Sounds promising.[emoji1696]
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Care to explain what's funny about it?Quote:
Originally Posted by marinello59
Just because you don't find it funny doesn't mean someone else can't be amused by it.Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
FWIW it brought a smile to my face too. Clearly qualified by the cartoonist's reference to Life of Brian ad opposed to real actual crucifixion.
Lighten up.
Did I ever say they couldn't? I'm just asking someone to explain what they find funny. Lighten up yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibby Bairn
They definitely know how to keep order. Let's face it. They're the only ones who could in a place like this.Quote:
Originally Posted by WeeRussell
I understood his point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rumble de Thump
So if it's a reference to Life of Brian, does that mean, like him, they are being crucified for something they didn't do [emoji6]Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibby Bairn
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I remember when I lived in Glasgow there was quite a buzz around the Life of Brian being screened for the first time I something like 40 years. It definitely raised many hackles.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
Anyone offended by that cartoon though presumably just finds anything which pokes fun at the SNP offensive.
I thought it was quite well put together, with the saltire-shaped crucifixes etc and it seems a pretty apt summary of where the SNP are at right now. Things could hardly be worse and they're a sitting duck or ridicule so Always Look on the Bright Side of Life seems an appropriate lyric.
I guess some might still fail to make the Life of Brian (ie comedy) connection though.
In what way does it poke fun at the SNP?Quote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
There would be questions in the HoC, front page howling headlines in the English press for weeks if a Scottish paper printed a cartoon of Sunak and Starmer being crucified on Good Friday. Whether you like the SNP or not, it's simply not funny. And putting a Monty Python quote at the bottom doesn't make it so.
If it offends you as Christian then I can see why that might be so.Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
The whole shtick is based around the Life of Brian scene tho, not just the quote. In that sense it's just lampooning the SNP using a theme which ties in with the time of year.
Political cartoonists tend not to pull their punches but other than the religious aspect I'm not seeing this as especially shocking.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...16382.html?amp
'Sturgeon was forced to quit' according to Salmond.
Who's Paul Murrell, and what does his arrest have to do with the SNP?Quote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
Given that humour induces a spontaneous reaction that would require a degree of self analysis that terrifies me. I ain’t going there :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by grunt
Good answer.Quote:
Originally Posted by marinello59
Not personally offended by it. Have much thicker skin. The use of the saltire in the background make it look an attack from one country on another.Quote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
However, it’s Easter and it’s fine for people to have a bit of fun. I really don’t care about it.
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Maybe he's the guy who got paid after Peter was robbed of the indy funds?Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
Very good.Quote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
It could be.Quote:
Originally Posted by marinello59
That said, the gossip has been around for a while. It may have been that the toxicity has forced them to think about their own reputation.
I have no opinion, as yet.
Bearing in mind the party's accounts are due imminently is it not a curious time to decide against carrying out an audit?Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Not really.Quote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
The accounts for 2022 are to be submitted to the Electoral Commission by the 7th of July. The work on the audit would probably be starting around now, no matter who was doing them. Resigning now, before the engagement starts, gives a new firm enough time to do the audit properly.
Thanks. As you say it might just come down to preserving their reputation.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Would a political party normally be regarded as a good/prestigious client to have on the books?
Depends on one's view of politicians :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
But, generally, yeah.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/scotland
I'm guessing the Salmond affair must rank pretty highly on Russell's 'worst crisis' leaderboard, tho it would probably have only trumped the current implosion had he been FM at the time it came to public attention.
What happens if no firm will touch them and the accounts can’t be audited?Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Would an auditor not normally signal their intention as they complete what would be their final audit so the firm has 12 months to prepare. It doesn’t feel like much time to find and engage a new auditor and give them time to do their job. Especially given current circumstances where they may want to look at things in detailQuote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Looks like the strain of the past few days has taken its toll on Nicola Sturgeon, it must have been tough for her facing the cameras today. It’s easy to forget that politicians are just human beings like the rest of us, hopefully she can get back to enjoying some privacy in her own home.
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https://twitter.com/georgia_edkins/s...dxJXScFNwz8V4A
It’s getting a bit funny now.[emoji23]
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I'd be surprised if a 92 year old could drive, let alone a motorhome worth £110,000.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
I'm sure his mother is in stitches right enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Mike Russell ain’t laughing. Looks like he’s parking the Indy bus next to the motor home for a while. :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...n-mike-russell
Indeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crunchie
https://twitter.com/newshacksreboot/...633934849?s=20
New series of Neighbours from Hell...
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Wings over Scotland (or 'Flying Scotsman' Stuart Campbell) being touted for a national press award for their revelations about the SNP.
Getting a bit more serious I would suggest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
This is only going to get worse for NS and Murrell.
Not sure whether to put this in here or on the Tory thread but
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b2316732.html
Tories encouraging voters to vote Labour. Jeez.
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There is no advantage for Labour in this.Quote:
Originally Posted by McSwanky
Good old Kev. Does the award take into account the Rev inferring that NS was a "dyke"?Quote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
I suspect you're the only one finding it funny.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
It's been posted on the Labour thread...Quote:
Originally Posted by McSwanky
It's a tactic already being used by voters, most notably I would suggest in Edinburgh South where Ian Murray's stonking majority is certainly enhanced by Tory voters. If Ross is serious about the proposal though, they should stand down Tory candidates in all but their strongest couple of Scottish seats and make it a Labour v SNP head-to-head in the majority constituencies.
God almighty, the Tories are simply obsessed by the constitutional question. When will they concentrate on the things that matter?Quote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
https://twitter.com/kittycatboyd/status/1644318826543079424?s=20Quote:
Originally Posted by archie
This is quite funny...
The only way the constitutional question is getting taken off the table is by removing the independence-obsessed SNP from power. Only then would Scottish politics be freed up to focus on the things that matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glory Lurker
I think you'll have to remove the 50% of the Scottish electorate first before the constitutional question is off the table. Like it or not, the SNP are only trying to cater for the wishes of around 50% of the population, democracy huh.Quote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
This all feels very much like Brexit all over again.
And those things would be ...?Quote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
The simple solution would for Westminster to allow the referendum and win that. The independence movement would be put to bed for decades or die out completely. There's no Brexit, EU type crunch coming up anytime soon. There will be no legitimate argument for another referendum after the next one.Quote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
Of course if the unionist parties think they'll lose they'll keep kicking the can down the road and the constitutional question will continue to fester.
Things that the Labour/Tory Party say matter. He's here doesn't care which one.Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
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SNP party president says not right now. The first minister says they need a clear and consistent lead in the polls. That's the only way we'll get a referendum. Unfortunately for me his cabinet shows he's more interested in leading than winning no voters to get that leadQuote:
Originally Posted by Jack
All you have to do is win more votes than them. Not looking likely any time soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
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Health, housing, education, cost of living crisis, just transition from fossil fuels as so on.Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
Strange calling them independence obsessed when the SNP are a party deliberately det up for the one purpose of gaining independence. Surely they're only doing what the voters and party members ask of them, try to gain independence. Do you not think a government can still focus on the day to day stuff and look at independence, they don't just drop everything and say, "it's independence and sod everything else,"Quote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
All things that the Scottish Government with their limited resources are managing better than Westminster, because the Scottish Government is focused on making things better for the Scottish people whereas the UK Government is focused on accumulating wealth for themselves and their donors, and keeping foreigners out of the country. I suggest you give independence a go - you might enjoy it. Hundreds of countries around the world thrive as independent countries.Quote:
Originally Posted by archie
Well that's one view.Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
Which area of govt are Westminster doing better than Holyrood?Quote:
Originally Posted by archie
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Your right …the dive by Humza on his scooter was a lot better than anyone In Westminster :faf::faf:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
You'd need to ask Glory Lurker. He claimed that Labour and the Tories are obsessed with the constitutional question instead of the 'things that matter'. I'm just pointing out that for as long as the dead hand of the SNP controls the agenda there are no other things that matter. That's made clear by the litany of failure Sturgeon left behind her in terms of domestic policy, which seems irrelevant to those who claim the pursuit of independence trumps all else.Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
No area then. [emoji849]Quote:
Originally Posted by Berwickhibby
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Says someone who thinks the defence of the union trumps all else. Claiming one side to be more obsessed with the constitution than the other is childish. The whole of Scotland is obsessed with the constitution. And it will stay that way until there is a vote.Quote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
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My post didn't reference the SNP though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
HH suggested the only any to remove the constitutional question was for the SNP to be wiped out. I suggested that the constitutional question would be resolved if unionists at Westminster took the lead. By winning the referendum the rebellious Scots and their quest for independence would be crushed for a very long time.
Seems to me that's exactly what the SNP have done. Presumably because they know it's a bigger vote winner than actually delivering on their supposed priorities.Quote:
Originally Posted by J-C
And I'm adding the other parties don't need to do anything. SNP is basically the independence moment in Scotland their president and FM say now is not the time so not much to discuss. They would be insane to go for a vote when the opposition aren't even pushing for one now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack
The defacto referendum is dead. The FM says they need a constant clear lead in the polls, not much to talk about till then unfortunately.
My starter for ten: Drugs policy (cue 'if only we had safe consumption rooms' arguments).Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Nice bit of DARVO there!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Borrowing. 😂Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
If that's your view, then you're far more obsessed with the SNP than they are of independence.Quote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/s...hiefs-29664221
Nicola Sturgeon ordered SNP chiefs to stop talking about party finances and insisted they were 'fine'
A recording of meeting of the SNP's ruling National Executive Committee shows the former FM angrily responding to calls for transparency
A Niesmann+Bischoff motorhome was taken from a house in Fife at the same time police searched the home of Nicola Sturgeon and her husband, Peter Murrell, according to the Mail on Sunday.
The same model of campervan can sell for around £110,000.
So about the same amount as Murrell lent to the SNP, then...
I'm missing the point? He had £220,000 spare?Quote:
Originally Posted by ehf
Didn't Sturgeon leave home just before the police arrived, have the police checked her alibis or has she been seen in the Fife area around the time of the theft?Quote:
Originally Posted by ehf
He sold it to himself, giving the camper van to his ma, then burying the surplus 20k in his front garden.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
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'kin Kensell!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
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