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That's just delusional to think America will fight against a NATO ally.Quote:
Originally Posted by CloudSquall
I suspect no matter what Trump does he can't do right for wrong. America has nothing to gain from remaining in Syria. It's a local issue and the West should learn their lesson and stop getting involved.
Again the real problem is why were the West lead by Obama arming Jihadist fighters.
Orange Man Bad though!
So they Wernt attacking then [emoji848]Quote:
Originally Posted by Slavers
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Turkey only went in when Trump had the troops pack up and leave, there would not have been any need for NATO allies to fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slavers
The Kurds were already pulling back defensive positions and weapons from the border as agreed with the US.
Have they previously attacked? They are fighting against Turkey now from land that they have stole from Syria.Quote:
Originally Posted by Callum_62
The correct thing is for Syria to reclaim their land and offer the Kurds protection from Turkey.
The wrong thing to do is for America to get involved in yet another middle eastern conflict that they don't need too.
England attacked us once.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slavers
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Yes and your still after revenge.Quote:
Originally Posted by Callum_62
So why couldn't Trump have keep the troops in there until Syria was in a position strong enough to offer that protection against Turkey?Quote:
Originally Posted by Slavers
As has been seen this week deals between Assad and the Kurds can be struck.
Haha, Slavers indeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slavers
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The Kurdish people are a nationless population chased out of every country, a bit like the Palestinians and Israelis before they were gifted land by great Britain, land that was not Britain's to give.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slavers
The situation was stable until the Americans were pulled out with little thought to the consequences, like the freedom for ISIS fighters. Something that you seem to be happy about.
I think this is the key point. I'm no expert on the situation so for all I know it's perfectly appropriate that the USA should withdraw from the region. But surely anyone can see that destabilising such a sensitive environment on a whim instead of as part of a carefully planned withdrawal is madness.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
Hence, not for the first time, I'm going to conclude that Slavers defence of the action is motivated by something other than an objective review of the matters at hand.
I think the problem for Trump and the IS is the reason behind the withdrawal. It looks like corruption.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocky
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apparently this is the letter Trump sent Erdogan
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/10...1320288983.jpg
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/10...1313845248.jpg
Yep, they're basically like gypsies,most live in the eastern parts of Turkey and in countries bordering those parts of Turkey. When I holidayed many times a few years ago, they were treated poorly by the rest of the Turks, they owned some bars and restaurants but were closed down often due to being extorted by the local mayor and his cronies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
The last time I was there in Marmaris, there were 2 explosions a week after I had left, one on a dolmus bus and another in a litter bin near the harbour. A friend who had another week to go told us someone got stabbed on the steps of one of the bigger plusher hotels.
That's a real letter? :shocked:Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
That truly is a WTF moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-50094738
"Like two kids in a lot, you have got to let them fight and then you pull them apart," he told a rally in Texas."
Mental.
Nah, **** the **** off...that can't be real...:shocked:Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
Wow. Just....wow.
The thing is the two kids aren't usually armed with weapons which they turn on each other and their families.Quote:
Originally Posted by CloudSquall
In most countries anyway.
Despite all the nonsense I still have faith that the system over there will eventually see trump in jail. Might be being a bit naive.
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Not only real, but I'm sure Trump will be describing it as 'very beautiful' any moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba
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Originally Posted by DaveF
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Originally Posted by Sylar
crivens, it's a letter i would have typed....with added sweary words :faf:
i'm astonished he even has the brass neck to type 'history will look back on you favourably '(erdogan) absolutely baffling
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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
i honestly don't think they will put either a sitting or ex-president in the clink, any attempts at impeachment/Suits appear to have stalled lately
Sorry, had to delete that flashing emoji thing, it was driving me crazy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba
The White House have now released JFK's letter to Khrushchev
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHLBFeFU...pg&name=medium
Sand, there's lots of sandQuote:
Originally Posted by CloudSquall
What a total moronic prick
"Our K-9, as they call - I call it a dog, a beautiful dog, a talented dog - was injured and brought back," the president said.
How can anyone question this very stable genius?
https://twitter.com/pdsutter/status/1018908978447712257Quote:
Originally Posted by Fuzzywuzzy
https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews...%3fid=66589757
I still can't get my head around this guy being president
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...469841409?s=19
WTF!? :rotflmao:
Impeachment moves a step closer
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-50246324