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St Mirren 1-0 down after 6 mins
Killie 1 up 11mins
Any of these games on TV?
Gogic absolutely terrible for the goalQuote:
Originally Posted by lugz
Good start for Killie, almost the first time they ventured into the opposition halve. A header from a corner kick which also took a slight deflection.
Depends what sources of TV you have hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by Trinity Hibee
So far Tromso are playing like another team I'm familiar with - absolutely toothless !
Half time:- Killie lead 1-0.
St Mirren have a good support there tonight. Luzernesque.
Anyone watching on Killie TV - if we all could then no one would ever complain about Cliff etc ever again - a North American commentator who would drive you away from football for good 🤭Quote:
Originally Posted by lugz
He knows his stuff though but his way of presenting it is certainly different! 😆Quote:
Originally Posted by scm70nyd1973
We had an American guy doing one of our games last year I'm sure? Or maybe a few years ago. Was impressed by how much he knew about Hibs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Golden Bear
Did he not live out East Lothian wayQuote:
Originally Posted by JohnM1875
I think you're right but can't remember the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnM1875
It was Darren Kilfara of Solidsport doing the Luzern game. He's from Dunbar.Quote:
Originally Posted by Golden Bear
https://x.com/solidsport_swe/status/1692464750603415620
Good knowledge. 👍Quote:
Originally Posted by 007
If Killie get through, that’ll be another Sunday game for us.
Can't see Tromso scoring. Look brutal, struggling in their league as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by B.H.F.C
I suppose it could be said that it's quite unusual for your keeper to be making passes from inside your opponents half!
😁
Darren Kilfara is amazing and I will hear nothing against him.
My source has absolutely nothing this evening which is unusual...Quote:
Originally Posted by lugz
Welcome to .net Darren.Quote:
Originally Posted by SHODAN
Was hoping he'd be a guest on Hibs TV.Quote:
Originally Posted by SHODAN
Can still get the Luzern game on catch up.
https://solidsport.com/fcluzern/watch/fc-luzern-hibernian-fc
St Mirren hammer throwers equalised
2-1 Brann
Brutal from Vassel, should have put Killie 2 up and the tie to bed.
Nervy 5+ mins to go for Killie now.
3-1 Brann
Gogic having an absolute nightmare the last 5 minutes.
Totally.Quote:
Originally Posted by CapitalGreen
Poor control, rag dolled and out muscled in his last three occasions when near the ball.
Some result for Killie that. Into the play-off round next week.
Potentially against Ostrava from Czech Republic who have taken FC Copenhagen to ET. Great chance for group stage football for Killie.Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnM1875
Great result for Kilmarnock and McInnes.
Dunno about Ostrava but reckon FC Copenhagen best avoided, they got through to final 16 of Champions League last seasonQuote:
Originally Posted by CapitalGreen
Well done Killie
Hearts playing Plzen as well. Hard tie that
Another feather in the cap for McInnes.Quote:
Originally Posted by supermcginn
It’s a good result but Lee Johnson managed to get us through to the same round last year!Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
We`re due at Killie on 31st so that will now be changed to Sunday or Monday I suppose . Good to get them after a Euro game .
Superb achievement for a club like KillieQuote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
Copenhagen win the penalty shoot-out, so probably out now. But as you say, superb achievement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trinity Hibee
Ostrava miss 4 of their 5 penalties in the shoot out sending FC Copenhagen through to face Killie. Great trip for the Killie fans but will likely be a very tough game.Quote:
Originally Posted by CapitalGreen
Ye wouldn’t see them winning that oneQuote:
Originally Posted by JohnM1875
That was a decent achievement for ourselves and for Johnson, praiseworthy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dublin07
It was a decent achievement and I enjoyed it. Just pointing out it doesn’t make someone a great manager.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
It doesn’t, but Mcinnes continues to solidify his position has a very good manager who gets results.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dublin07
To think we hired Shaun Maloney before going for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trinity Hibee
Pretty much the exact same as what Johnson achieved here though, good European run but getting spanked in the opening few league games.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trinity Hibee
At this time last year Hibs were in the play off and had lost our first 2 league games. LJ was correctly seen as a clown. Mcinnes has done the exact same and he is a very good manager that gets results!Quote:
Originally Posted by Trinity Hibee
He achieved 4th so better than LJ with that, but also with a budget you'd imagine which is far lower.Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnM1875
:agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dublin07
Crazy eh?
Wtf, mcinnes has got results throughout his career. I’m not basing it on a couple of games 😂😂😂😂Quote:
Originally Posted by Dublin07
It's what Ian Gordon & Ben Kensell do.Quote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
McInnes has a track record of about a decade in Scottish football of doing well to very well with clubs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dublin07
Counts for nothing apparently when you lose 4-0 to Celtic at Parkhead 😂😂Quote:
Originally Posted by Since90+2
If got thumped by St Johnstone....at home....this place would be in meltdown.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trinity Hibee
We have and it has!! This place is in constant meltdown. But yeah, let’s forget decades of top 2,3,4 finishes. The comparisons are hilariousQuote:
Originally Posted by Gordy M
We `ve lost to St J many times in last decade and before but don`t remember a 0 v 3 at ER . Also Killie have advantage of artificial pitch . Also many of high finishes were without Rangers ( and us ) .Quote:
Originally Posted by Trinity Hibee
Ron did that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibees1973
That’s true mate, we couldn’t achieve 2nd though as we’d been relegated so still better than what we achieved in the leagueQuote:
Originally Posted by IberianHibernian
Ok if you want to go back decades, compare Derek McInnes record at Bristol City compared to Lee Johnson........thats hillarious.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trinity Hibee
Without us because we weren't even good enough to be in the top flight.Quote:
Originally Posted by IberianHibernian
The attempts on here to brush off McInnes's achievements are bewildering. He's clearly a fine manager and if we'd made a move for him when he left Aberdeen we'd have been spared the garbage we've been subjected to in recent years.
All been discussed to death here but decision to get rid of Ross just before LC final is / was rightly questioned but I think decision to appoint Maloney was a brave decision and I think he should have been given more time . Problem with Gordon regime has not been so much making mistaken decisions but deciding something then making kneejerk decisions instead of carrying through ideas . In case of managerial and other decisions in 2022 , Ron`s health may have been a major factor .Quote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
HahahahahahahahahahaQuote:
Originally Posted by Gordy M
It was a god awful decision. A rookie manager mid season after an excellent season the year before. Those decisions took us back years.Quote:
Originally Posted by IberianHibernian
3rd when you're the team with the 2nd biggest budget and 4th when you've the 3rd biggest budget isn't that great. When he was Aberdeen manager his league placing was worse than budget more often than it was better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trinity Hibee
Think outside the box or blue sky thinking :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Hibees1973
Its the most consistent a team outside the old firm has been since the 80s I'd imagine. Hibs, Hearts and Aberdeen finish bottom 6 with big budgets all the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by 007
Almost as bewildering as the attempts to make them seem better than they were.Quote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
His achievements as a manager in Scotland are excellent full stop. There's no requirement to make them seem better as they speak for themselves. We'd kill for Hibs to have that kind of record.Quote:
Originally Posted by 007
What does that say about our two eighth place finishes in three seasons?Quote:
Originally Posted by 007
No we wouldn`t because as already said here , high league positions were distorted by years without Rangers and us , his record in both cups was poor and his teams have a reputation for unentertaining football . He failed in England and doesn`t seem to have done well enough with Aberdeen or Killie to have been given a second chance there . Maybe a good fit for Hearts next manager ?Quote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
Finishing behind Motherwell when he had a much bigger budget, us and Hearts were getting relegated and Rangers were in League 1 wasn't excellent.Quote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
Finishing 2nd when Rangers, Hearts and Hibs were in the Championship so his biggest challengers were Inverness and St Johnstone wasn't excellent.
Finishing 2nd when Rangers and us were still down and Aberdeen's budget was considerably bigger than Hearts' wasn't excellent.
Finishing 2nd, above Ian Cathro's Hearts and Pedro Caixinha's Rangers = Good (I suppose).
Fishing 2nd the year they, us and Rangers were battling out 2nd-4th = Good.
4th 3 times in a row when he had the 3rd biggest budget = not excellent.
He couldn't have got the Aberdeen job at a better time. Rangers in the lower leagues, us and Hearts getting relegated. Aberdeen's budget miles ahead of the rest and numerous transfer windows to build a team while Rangers us and Hearts were nowhere near where they should have been.
It says Jack Ross shouldn't have been chased out.Quote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
Underselling if ever I’ve seen it. They finished above the best Hibs side I’ve seen under Lennon.Quote:
Originally Posted by 007
Let me ask you this, in the years we were in the championship, switch the 2 clubs around, do you honestly think we’d have been as consistent as his Aberdeen team were? Now we’ll never know for sure but history suggests we wouldn’t have. He achieved everything expected of him during his time at Aberdeen which is further backed up by the length of time he was manager. How many times have Hibs achieved what is expected of them? In my 30 years following them it hasn’t been many
Yes, switch the clubs around. Give Hibs the budget Aberdeen had and have Hearts, Aberdeen and Rangers in the league below and Hibs could well have finished 2nd, never mind 3rd behind Motherwell like McInnes did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trinity Hibee
You are comparing Aberdeen with the 2nd biggest budget in the league for 3 years and the 3rd biggest for 5 with Hibs and the 5th biggest budget so it is hardly a surprise McInnes' Aberdeen record seems good.
I'm not denying we usually underperform and I'm not saying McInnes is a poor manager, just not as good as he gets made out to be on here. He couldn't have got the Aberdeen job at a better time. Rangers in the lower leagues, us and Hearts getting relegated. Aberdeen's budget miles ahead of the rest and numerous transfer windows to build a team while Rangers us and Hearts were nowhere near where they should have been.
If, then, maybe, perhaps, but.
Indeed. McInnes is great. No he's no. Aye he is. No he's no. Aye he is. Ad infinitum.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Glory Lurker
Personally I think we missed an opportunity on not going after Tony Docherty.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoboHarry
Think I would rather judge Gray after a season at least, Docherty has had one decent seasonQuote:
Originally Posted by CentreLine
Ajax beat Panathinaikos 13-12 on penalties after an epic shootout featuring 34 spot-kicks to reach the Europa League qualifying play-off round.
Why would we want Derek McInnes as Hibs manager when we could get Maloney, Montgomery and Johnson, I mean they blow him out the water with their achievements. Why would we want us punching our weight more often than not, when we could be in the championship or bottom 6?
They took gambles, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt. Thats football. McInnes is a steady manager, you know what you are getting, probably a top half finish, maybe sneak 4, aint winning a cup, as can be seen by his record, and his football isnt particularly nice to watch. There is a reason that no one hired him after such an apparently fantastic time at Aberdeen? He had to drop to the championshio and take the Killie job?Quote:
Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
This is why football fans are never happy. That’s clearly the record of a manager that’s done his job really well. Still seen as not good enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by 007
Surely a Hibs fan can see the merit in achieving a finish there or thereabouts where the level of budget should have them. We’ve had countless seasons (more often than not probably)where we’ve come well below where we should based on budget level.
At non old firm level in Scotland, budget level has never been anything like a guarantee of relative success.
There's so much wrong with that, it's not worth the time even talking about it with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gordy M
If only we could meet or exceed expectations near enough every season. Although that would absolutely not be excellent at all now, would it.Quote:
Originally Posted by 007
There is absolutely no chance McInnes leaves a club that he’s got on the verge of European group stages for a club that has twice in three seasons twice sacked a manager in the same season. Or has people who don’t know what they’re doing signing absolute no hopers because their stats are good.
We may as well debate why we’ve not signed Haaland.
Fair enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
Of the four cup finals he reached with Aberdeen three were against Celtic so hardly a stick to beat him with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gordy M
I'd be delighted to 'know what I'm getting' with a manager if it meant consistent 2nd, 3rd and 4th place finishes, a level of consistency Hibs haven't managed for 50 years. Bearing in mind Hibs have been churning out some of the worst football I've ever watched them play in recent years I think I could also live quite comfortably with McInnes's supposedly 'unattractive' style.
Dont be silly, it's much more exciting watching a good relegation battle, or a 3rd place finish in the championship. :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
Ah right, il remember that if we get beat on Sunday, and you start posting that we will are getting relegated again.Quote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
He was in a relegation battle more recently than any of our managers........Quote:
Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
I'm not sure I understand your point but for what it's worth it's not a question of 'if' we get beat on Sunday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gordy M
We dont keep a manager long enough for that to happen, although give it time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gordy M
And you know fine well the circumstances why he kept Killie up, then got a team with half our resources into Europe.
I dream of a manager who has Hibs punching its weight, but no you want some mythical manager who's going to have us playing like Brazil, finishing 1st as 2nd is not good enough because some sheite teams were not in the league at the time, and all done with a punt from a manager who's done absolutely nothing to date but ticks a few boxes.
The consistency is what is impressive. Pretty much an unprecedented run in recent decades you've described there for a non-OF team and still running it down :greengrin He also re-built teams during that time after losing players. I would love for us to have a manager that can stay for 5-6 years building something like that. And there he has gone in and done an excellent job at Killi.Quote:
Originally Posted by 007
There are no guarantees that budget means this is where you should finish. You have to go and do it. And still my number one choice all day long for the last 3/4 appointments. He had our number tactically so much during a period, dirty yes but in the end you can't fail to be impressed really.
Absolutely :agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
So much wrong with that, i dont even know where to start......no point in discussing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
I see his Aberdeen side amassed 70+ points, 4 seasons in a row when achieving 2nd which again just shows how impressive the consistency was. Not really sure how this is even a debate to be honest. Not saying he’s Pep Guardiola but in Scottish football very few have achieved what he hasQuote:
Originally Posted by Gordy M
Difficult to argue with that to be honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trinity Hibee
Enough said…. https://youtu.be/gQCR392YQ_A
It's much better to just have a stab in the dark, look how impressive we've been doing that. :faf:Quote:
Originally Posted by Trinity Hibee
wish i had watched that one
Ajax beat Panathinaikos 13-12 on penalties after an epic shootout featuring 34 spot-kicks to reach the Europa League qualifying play-off round.
Goalkeeper Remko Pasveer, 40, saved five penalties and scored one, while defender Anton Gaaei scored the winning kick for Ajax.
The Dutch side won despite the Netherlands striker Brian Brobbey missing two spot-kicks, with Bertrand Traore and Youri Baas also off target.
Manager Francesco Farioli said the shootout, which lasted 25 minutes in total, was "incredible".
It is the second-biggest penalty shootout score in a European competition, narrowly behind Glentoran's 14-13 defeat by Gzira United in Conference League qualifying last season.