Here's what the Villa faithful have been saying on social media.

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Originally Posted by Hermit Crab

I don't see it that way at all. If these fans who will fill the Dunbar end turned up to most home games then we would be guaranteed to split the stand. Right now I cant see the justification to do so. Last nights attendance was poor for a big European match.

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And there's another one.:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Frazerbob

In my opinion too. I find it bizarre that you'd rather give tickets to more away fans than Hibs fans. As someone else asked, should we request only 14k tickets for our next cup final?

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Nah, what will be worrying most people is that if we reduce the Villa allocation, they might do the same to us meaning less chance of a ticket for ST holders and zero chance for non ST holders. Thats whats really going on here.

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Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs

And there's another one.:rolleyes:

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Block me then :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Renfrew_Hibby

The stand is designed to be segregated internally. Both upper and lower decks can be closed off. They were when the East was built and we split the stand for games with Hearts, Celtic and Rangers.

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In doing it that way it would mean we wouldn’t need to leave a number of seats empty as a segregation separator

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Originally Posted by Hermit Crab

I don't see it that way at all. If these fans who will fill the Dunbar end turned up to most home games then we would be guaranteed to split the stand. Right now I cant see the justification to do so. Last nights attendance was poor for a big European match.

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Folk want to go to the bigger games. Shock horror. The justification for splitting the stand is that we will easily sell the tickets to our OWN supporters.

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Originally Posted by Hermit Crab

I don't see it that way at all. If these fans who will fill the Dunbar end turned up to most home games then we would be guaranteed to split the stand. Right now I cant see the justification to do so. Last nights attendance was poor for a big European match.

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the same principle would apply to cup finals as well using that logic mate - some people can’t make most home games but will be able to make the occasional game, of course they will try to do that for a big game over a run of the mill league match against Dundee

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Originally Posted by McD

In doing it that way it would mean we wouldn’t need to leave a number of seats empty as a segregation separator

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Yeah we would, at least the central blocks both upper and lower tiers would need to remain largely empty for segregation.

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Originally Posted by McD

the same principle would apply to cup finals as well using that logic mate - some people can’t make most home games but will be able to make the occasional game, of course they will try to do that for a big game over a run of the mill league match against Dundee

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And the 'occasional' game just happens to be a semi or a final. Or Villa at home...

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Originally Posted by Hermit Crab

Yeah we would, at least the central blocks both upper and lower tiers would need to remain largely empty for segregation.

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bit of confusion here, I was meaning if we segregated by having Hibs fans on the upper tier and villa fans in the lower, we’d not need to leave seats empty up the middle of the stand

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Originally Posted by Hermit Crab

Yeah we would, at least the central blocks both upper and lower tiers would need to remain largely empty for segregation.

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Have you seen a European match at Liverpool, Arsenal, United, Spurs, City? Segregation is a line of stewards. No such European rule exists.

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Originally Posted by Renfrew_Hibby

If the Dunbar was split down the middle surely we wouldn't need a huge no man's land as if we were playing the Huns? Just 3 or 4 rows vertically.
I'd imagine they'd be a decent jovial spirit between two sets of fans with no beef between us.
18K Hibbies and 2K Villa sounds about right.

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I’d expect that whilst there will be a majority seeking to enjoy a decent jovial spirit, you’ll get a fair bit of what you always get between English and Scottish clubs, which is relative carnage.

The police will be careful.

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Originally Posted by Hermit Crab

And the 'occasional' game just happens to be a semi or a final. Or Villa at home...

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that’s why I said that those fans who can only make an occasional match will look to try to make a big one rather than a run of the mill match against a poorer side, that’s human nature

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Originally Posted by Since452

I'd rather give Villa the bare minimum. We're going to be up it against playing them anyway without letting them have a big noisy away following. Would just be silly. In any case we need to finish the job in Switzerland.

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My thoughts too.
The South full as we know can have a very vocal and noisy atmosphere.
If we do meet them, the Holy Ground will be rocking.
WE dont need them rockin as well..So bare minimum ticket allocation,i say.

It's mind boggling that a Hibs fan would deny other Hibs fans tickets for the benefit of opposition fans.

I genuinely can't believe that.

South stand is almost 20% of our capacity. Villa won't give us 8.5k anyway. They will be giving us about 6%, even if we give them half the stand they will be higher than that.

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Originally Posted by Hibbyradge

It's mind boggling that a Hibs fan would deny other Hibs fans tickets for the benefit of opposition fans.

I genuinely can't believe that.

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That’s exactly the sort of opinion I’d expect from that poster tbf, more than a wee bit bizarre from time to time


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Originally Posted by McD

bit of confusion here, I was meaning if we segregated by having Hibs fans on the upper tier and villa fans in the lower, we’d not need to leave seats empty up the middle of the stand

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That can't happen.

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Originally Posted by ErinGoBraghHFC

That’s exactly the sort of opinion I’d expect from that poster tbf, more than a wee bit bizarre from time to time


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Straight out of the uber-fan playbook.

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Originally Posted by B.H.F.C

Folk want to go to the bigger games. Shock horror. The justification for splitting the stand is that we will easily sell the tickets to our OWN supporters.

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And the more folk we can get to the bigger games then the greater chance of encouraging some of them to then come to some of the less glamorous games.

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Originally Posted by Lancs Harp

Have you seen a European match at Liverpool, Arsenal, United, Spurs, City? Segregation is a line of stewards. No such European rule exists.

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Yeah, half a dozen rows vertically at most. Not huge empty blocks as if we were playing der hun.

We couldn’t even fill our ends at Easter Road last night plus we’ve not even won through to the play off round yet anyway.
That lot from over the city has a waiting list for season tickets, on that basis we have no right to be demanding almost all of the stadium for our fans alone, I’m in the give them the whole south stand camp, not only do I think it’s the right thing to do, it will make the occasion itself much better for atmosphere.
I was at the 5-5 game in the south stand and it was a brilliant occasion but that was against the Orcs and the less of them in our stadium the better, we have a decent relationship with Villa, let’s keep it like that.

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Originally Posted by Hibbyradge

It's mind boggling that a Hibs fan would deny other Hibs fans tickets for the benefit of opposition fans.

I genuinely can't believe that.

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The same Hibs fan wanted the opposition to score against us at Hampden to speed up the departure of our manager so this doesn’t come as a surprise

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Originally Posted by Hermit Crab

Nah, what will be worrying most people is that if we reduce the Villa allocation, they might do the same to us meaning less chance of a ticket for ST holders and zero chance for non ST holders. Thats whats really going on here.

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If we didn’t give them the full south, is which we wouldn’t, we won’t be reducing anything. We’d also be giving them a higher percentage of tickets than we’d get down there with half the stand.

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Originally Posted by Billy McKirdy

We couldn’t even fill our ends at Easter Road last night plus we’ve not even won through to the play off round yet anyway.
That lot from over the city has a waiting list for season tickets, on that basis we have no right to be demanding almost all of the stadium for our fans alone, I’m in the give them the whole south stand camp, not only do I think it’s the right thing to do, it will make the occasion itself much better for atmosphere.
I was at the 5-5 game in the south stand and it was a brilliant occasion but that was against the Orcs and the less of them in our stadium the better, we have a decent relationship with Villa, let’s keep it like that.

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We have no right to sell more tickets to our own fans because Hearts have a waiting list??

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Originally Posted by Hermit Crab

That can't happen.

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ah, my bad. I had asked if it could be done, and another poster suggested it could.

I’d asked as if it could be done, it would mean more seats could be sold as we wouldn’t need to keep any clear for segregation.

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Originally Posted by BoomtownHibeys

We have no right to sell more tickets to our own fans because Hearts have a waiting list??

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Maybe not my best argument but my point still stands, our fans are the most fickle around, a bad result and empty seats everywhere, truth is, we should do better than that as a support.

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Originally Posted by Hermit Crab

And the 'occasional' game just happens to be a semi or a final. Or Villa at home...

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Again, yes, that’s how it is.

Especially with the Hibs, we seem to have a more volatile support than many clubs. Attendance can drop markedly after one poor result, but we can also fill half of Hampden.

But the baseline is getting bigger. There was an opinion when the new East was built that the extra capacity wasn’t needed… no one says that anymore.

Just want to remind people, that the fans massively backed this team on Sunday with a home sell out. Only for many to go away bitterly disappointed again. The club holds a massive responsibility in ensuring fans continue to come back. Our supporters and fans don’t just attend and back the team when it’s a big game or a semi/finals.

Of course fans who can attend should attend but let’s not pretend hibs didn’t shoot themselves in the foot with the **** we seen on Sunday after fans massively backed the club again.

I would rather we got as many hibs fans into the ground for what would be a special occasion in the hope you build on the regulars have fans coming back for more etc…

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Originally Posted by McD

ah, my bad. I had asked if it could be done, and another poster suggested it could.

I’d asked as if it could be done, it would mean more seats could be sold as we wouldn’t need to keep any clear for segregation.

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It can be split vertically inside but seats would need to be left free in order to do this on the stand side.

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Originally Posted by Hermit Crab

It can be split vertically inside but seats would need to be left free in order to do this on the stand side.

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thanks, I was meaning horizontally splitting it though, wasn’t sure if it could be done or not