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22-06-2023, 06:15 PM
Sylar

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Originally Posted by Hibbyradge

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It was initially labelled as 'Entertainment'.
22-06-2023, 06:27 PM
Ozyhibby

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22-06-2023, 07:06 PM
Pagan Hibernia

I suppose this outcome is much preferable to the alternative
22-06-2023, 07:11 PM
Billy Whizz

For someone late to reading this. Was this the 1st time this vehicle had gone down to view the Titanic
22-06-2023, 07:21 PM
overdrive

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Originally Posted by Billy Whizz

For someone late to reading this. Was this the 1st time this vehicle had gone down to view the Titanic

No. I watched a documentary about it on the BBC at the start of the year.
22-06-2023, 07:23 PM
Ozyhibby

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Originally Posted by Billy Whizz

For someone late to reading this. Was this the 1st time this vehicle had gone down to view the Titanic

25th trip I think I read.

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22-06-2023, 07:24 PM
Ozyhibby

https://twitter.com/alextomo/status/...dxJXScFNwz8V4A

All dead.

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22-06-2023, 07:32 PM
He's here!

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Originally Posted by Pagan Hibernia

I suppose this outcome is much preferable to the alternative

Yes I'd imagine for their families there can at least be a modicum of solace that they met their end pretty much instantly rather than over a horrendous few days.
22-06-2023, 07:37 PM
Billy Whizz

Thanks for the replies. Just put Sky news on, and one of the enquiries is the number of times this vehicle has gone to these depths before. Think someone said 25. Can it withstand that amount of dives
Anyone know when the last one was
22-06-2023, 07:45 PM
Sylar

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Whizz

Thanks for the replies. Just put Sky news on, and one of the enquiries is the number of times this vehicle has gone to these depths before. Think someone said 25. Can it withstand that amount of dives
Anyone know when the last one was

By all accounts, it was cheaply made, uncertified, and operating at renowned challenging depths that would challenge the most robust vehicles.
22-06-2023, 08:03 PM
TrumpIsAPeado

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Originally Posted by Billy Whizz

For someone late to reading this. Was this the 1st time this vehicle had gone down to view the Titanic

It wasn't. But those vessels were never fit to go down to those depths in the first place. Previous expeditions must have taken their toll and the owner mustn't have provided adequate maintenance checks. Both the owner and OceanGate have to be held to account for this very avoidable disaster.
22-06-2023, 08:07 PM
grunt

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Originally Posted by HarpOnHibee

It wasn't. But those vessels were never fit to go down to those depths in the first place. Previous expeditions must have taken their toll and the owner mustn't have provided adequate maintenance checks. Both the owner and OceanGate have to be held to account for this very avoidable disaster.

Well the CEO has certainly paid the ultimate price.
22-06-2023, 08:21 PM
TrumpIsAPeado

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Originally Posted by grunt

Well the CEO has certainly paid the ultimate price.

He has indeed. He won't have to worry about those pesky safety regulations anymore.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2361544.html

Unfortunately the other 4 passengers are also paying the price through no fault of their own.
22-06-2023, 08:41 PM
Hibernian Verse

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Originally Posted by HarpOnHibee

He has indeed. He won't have to worry about those pesky safety regulations anymore.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2361544.html

Unfortunately the other 4 passengers are also paying the price through no fault of their own.

Yesterday you posted that they’d effectively done it to themselves. You really do like to change angle.

Anyway, a sad outcome but what was expected and at least they didn’t suffer.
22-06-2023, 08:46 PM
TrumpIsAPeado

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Originally Posted by Hibernian Verse

Yesterday you posted that they’d effectively done it to themselves. You really do like to change angle.

I got some information mixed up, have admitted to it and have apologized for it. I would say that the ability to change angles would be pretty useful in this day and age where people refuse to budge on things, even when corrected. I was ultimately corrected by people who had a better understanding of it than I did.
22-06-2023, 08:53 PM
Hibernian Verse

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Originally Posted by HarpOnHibee

I got some information mixed up, have admitted to it and have apologized for it. I would say that the ability to change angles would be pretty useful in this day and age where people refuse to budge on things, even when corrected. I was ultimately corrected by people who had a better understanding of it than I did.

Fair play.
22-06-2023, 08:56 PM
Hibrandenburg

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Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7

More effort resources and media coverage went to the boys in the Thai cave, so it isn't about wealth as they were poor. Its just like the cave an unusual situation playing out in real time. There is zero link to other ocean tragedies that happen daily

Can't get my head round that considering all the hardware that is swimming, flying and submerging around that area at the moment.
22-06-2023, 09:19 PM
marinello59

My heart goes out to the families of all those lost. RIP.

I remember an old shipmate of mine telling me it didn’t matter how many precautions we took, the sea would still find a hundred different ways to kill you. He wasn’t wrong.
22-06-2023, 09:39 PM
lapsedhibee

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Originally Posted by marinello59

I remember an old shipmate of mine telling me it didn’t matter how many precautions we took, the sea would still find a hundred different ways to kill you. He wasn’t wrong.

Drowning, dashed against the rocks, caught up in a propeller, submersible imploding. I suppose asphyxiation, like on the Kursk, though that's more of a mechanical failure killing you than the sea. Could you ask what are the other 95 ways? :dunno:
22-06-2023, 09:40 PM
Pagan Hibernia

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Originally Posted by marinello59

My heart goes out to the families of all those lost. RIP.

I remember an old shipmate of mine telling me it didn’t matter how many precautions we took, the sea would still find a hundred different ways to kill you. He wasn’t wrong.

the ocean is a truly terrifying thing. So vast, dark and mysterious. And incredibly powerful.

I don’t even like flying over the Atlantic. I wouldn’t go down there in one of those contraptions if they paid me a hundred million quid. And I would have said the same thing before this tragedy.
22-06-2023, 09:42 PM
Pagan Hibernia

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Originally Posted by lapsedhibee

Drowning, dashed against the rocks, caught up in a propeller, submersible imploding. I suppose asphyxiation, like on the Kursk, though that's more of a mechanical failure killing you than the sea. Could you ask what are the other 95 ways? :dunno:

Sharks, hypothermia, crashing into it from a great height… there’s 3 more anyway
22-06-2023, 09:44 PM
lapsedhibee

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Originally Posted by Pagan Hibernia

Sharks, hypothermia, crashing into it from a great height… there’s 3 more anyway

That's the fall killing you. Haven't you seen Butch Cassidy? :wink:
22-06-2023, 09:46 PM
SaulGoodman

It’s no surprise it had an implosion.

Constant pressure changes will cause fatigue over time. Aircraft go through very, very intense checks to detect any hairline fractures in the airframe.

I doubt the PlayStation controller equipped sardine can went through many checks after each trip.
22-06-2023, 09:52 PM
TrumpIsAPeado

There's certainly plenty of things in the sea that can kill a person. However, when you're in a submarine that's actually designed to go down to those depths, none of them are going to kill you, unless there is a serious malfunction of some kind. The sub that was used here was never certified to go down to depths anywhere near that low. So it could be argued that it was always going to succumb to the pressure eventually and should never have been used for these expeditions.
22-06-2023, 10:14 PM
cabbageandribs1875

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Originally Posted by 500miles

If they found debris then they died instantly. The pressure that far down will turn you to soup, never mind crush you.

at least they didn't suffer for a few days first
23-06-2023, 06:11 AM
NORTHERNHIBBY

News this morning seems to suggest that there were indications at the time communication was lost, that something really serious had happened.
23-06-2023, 08:04 AM
Bristolhibby

Quote:

Originally Posted by lapsedhibee

Drowning, dashed against the rocks, caught up in a propeller, submersible imploding. I suppose asphyxiation, like on the Kursk, though that's more of a mechanical failure killing you than the sea. Could you ask what are the other 95 ways? :dunno:

My Dad was a sailor. I remember him telling me that more sailors drowned on their own vomit after a night out than actually drowned at sea.

Never quite got to the bottom of whether that is truth or a salty sea story.

Pretty grim.

Anyway, RIP to those who have perished. Small mercy it was quick and painless.

Just read that the young lad was nervous, but went anyway as his Dad was obsessed with the Titanic and they went as a Fathers Day bonding trip.

Sad.

J
23-06-2023, 09:03 AM
Hibbyradge

Quote:

Originally Posted by lapsedhibee

Drowning, dashed against the rocks, caught up in a propeller, submersible imploding. I suppose asphyxiation, like on the Kursk, though that's more of a mechanical failure killing you than the sea. Could you ask what are the other 95 ways? :dunno:

Sharks, crocodiles, jelly fish, the things that killed Steve Irwin.
23-06-2023, 09:10 AM
lapsedhibee

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Originally Posted by Hibbyradge

Sharks, crocodiles, jelly fish, the things that killed Steve Irwin.

Think crocodiles are fresh water, so you're not getting that one. Even including the death by vomit after a night out, I don't think we're past ten yet, so still 90 or so to go.
23-06-2023, 09:10 AM
grunt

I have a lot of time for this man

https://twitter.com/Tzipshmil/status...967662595?s=20

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