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I personally didn't boo but I can understand why it happened.
I'd say Heckingbottom's not got long left. A growing number of fans are turning against him and I really can't see how that trend will be reversed.
I think a defeat in the derby next month will see his position become untenable.
He’s done, sadly. Not a sensible thing to say even though he has a point. He’ll never get fans back on his side unless we go for a lengthy winning run with attractive football and I just don’t see that happening. We’ve been through this before to know how it goes. I expect Ron won’t be pleased to see this disharmony from the fans to the manager and the players.Quote:
Originally Posted by Willis1875
Don't you know how this works? If you want to make a point, just make things up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Callum_62
I don't give a toss who booed who or when it's a convient excuse for some. The players and manager are the only ones involved today who could have won that game they failed and these games we need to win. PH and players 100%.
BTW not saying should be sacked but today is his and his players fault FA to do with crowd.
Might work! Get him in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hiber-nation
So some fans boo a managers decision and some find that embarrassing? Like really??
Have a look at who and why they were booing in the 1st place. Our only decent creative midfielder taken off and going from 2 up front to 1 was a negative substitution far to early in the match and it reeked of hanging on for 1-0. Allan was also played wider than normal and had anquiter game because of where he was played. I honestly dont think Heckingbottom has got a clue what he is doing.
Exactly, the boooing was aimed at our feckless clown of a manager.Quote:
Originally Posted by J-C
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Originally Posted by Captain Trips
The crowd booed a negative substitution from the manager. Big ****ing deal
Deary me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Willis1875
He is doing himself no favours at all with comments like that.
Matter of time now.
It was a pile of piss for a home game the players and managers get plenty of cheers when all good a few boos and it's the supports fault. The only thing even remotley embarrassing out there was setup and play and some performances. No its the supporters booing that defends like pish. Ffs the players and PH need a long hard look at themselves tonight on a match we should win and discuss why we didn't and work on it not happening again. Fans booing aye right.
Read the article in the Edinburgh Evening News....Quote:
Originally Posted by Callum_62
Cant get link up
chatting to a friend in bathgate today before leaving...
hibs will beat st.johnstone today mate
me...ermm what makes you think that, st.johnstone have been utter p@sh, there's no other team in scotland they would want to play to get the confidence back again, i know heckingbottoms hibs better than he does :agree:
I boo'd the decision when our manager made his substitutions. I'd given my all for the team in the first 60 minutes of the match where I watched a great big hole in the middle of the park where Scott Allan should have been, given over to a team that were thumped 7-0 a couple of weeks ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
They couldn't believe their luck.
Had we held on today, we'd have just papered over the cracks, and they're becoming wider by the week.
I'm not one for having a go at the team, as they play the formation and tactics deployed by their boss, and the buck stops with him.
The clock is ticking.
Where does it say he blamed the fans for the result?Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Baker2
First things first. I booed the double substitution. Don’t for a minute feel ashamed to admit it. I’ve supported the club for way too long not to be entitled to an opinion on whether I agree with what a manager/coach does.
I didn’t boo the players. I didn’t even boo the reasoning or the tactical change of the substitutions.
What I was booing was Scott Allan being played out of position for 60 minutes and our glorious leader deemed it necessary to take Scotty off, rather than move him into centre mid where, as we all know, he is far more effective. Apparently Hecky hasn’t cottoned on to that fact yet. That is worrying.
I’m not saying the rest of our play was anywhere near the level we want or expect but to tactically change the the team as Hecky did, and still for it to show an unbalanced set up was not a positive move.
Did it cost us the win? Probably not but it seemed to me it gave St J more motivation to go forward which imho, should have been our initiative being the home team. Somehow it just came across as a backward step on the day and could have ultimately cost us even the draw.
He kind of does in his interview. He knows he's lost the fans and its nobody's fault bar his.Quote:
Originally Posted by 007
https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/spor...-rule-16812307Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzling Doidge
When the manager turns on the fans he really is backing himself in to a corner. He should have stuck to the facts Allan was one of ten he could have subbed as everyone was average of poor except Flo.
Paul Heckingbottom post-matchQuote:
Originally Posted by 007
“It was disappointing. We were trying to get he boys to relax but the whole stadium was anxious and that spread to the players.....
“We have got to learn to keep working and dealing with that but there was a real anxiousness that spread from the stands to the players....
From where I was sitting the booing from the fans was aimed at Heckingbottom and definitely not the players. He certainly knew this, as the fans were calling his name. He's trying to deflect the back to the fans. The man has a lot to learn!
He kind of doesn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by supermcginn
He refers to the anxiousness getting to the players. Which was blatantly obvious to every ****er.
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Originally Posted by Joe Baker2
They might be aimed at him but you’re deluded if you think it doesn’t have an impact on the players. He’s said nothing wrong there and is spot on
Anxiety which he causes! Loves his team sitting back. So much for pressing high 😂Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
No wonder the crowd "in the whole stadium" was anxious. That was because Hibs were so dire, and St J looked as if they might score every time they attacked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Baker2
I thought the atmosphere was ok today. For sure there was loud booing at the substitution but I wouldn’t describe the atmosphere as toxic . Personally I don’t see the point of booing my own team or manager during a game as it can only have a negative effect on our team. It’s only 3 games into the season so I’m not panicking but there needs to be improvement soon. i get the impression Hecky’s aspiration is simply to go for a top 6 finish which is poor and at this rate not guaranteed.
Aye he probably will take scott allan off again,but someone should ask him if he will continue to play an underperforming stevie mallan mores the point.
He badly needs a stint on the bench.
I think you have put that very well PB re SA, spot on and the fans see this they are not blind.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
Not read the whole thread as I’m sure there will be folk quite proud of the ridiculous reactions of the crowd at points.
The performance got progressively worse as the game went on and that tends to happen when the atmosphere is hostile.
The crowd are embarrassing- we’re the only ground in the SPL that is always half empty with 5 minutes left and the negativity and fickleness is beyond ridiculous.
Yes the team don’t look good, but the willingness for
the team to fail from a large chunk of our crowd is horrendous.
A result like this would NEVER have happened under Lennon....
Pish. It very often did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nakedmanoncrack
Maybe we should be recruiting more mentally resilient players then? In seriousness, we have some really poor players if anxiousness in the stands caused that today, these new players will never win anything in their careers if they don’t toughen up. Anxiousness cause us to get thumped 6-1 as well? Was it that anxiousness that caused us to need extra time in the cup? No, manager and the players are just collectively a bit garbage at the moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
Hecky’s lost it tbh, he’s the sort of manager that players respect but they’ll keep pushing the boundaries to see what they can get away with. Hecky blaming fans for his players’ horrendous performances is not going to get him anywhere, we’ll have signs at ER before long. Does he not see how bad the football is?