Critchley is the kind of uninspiring wet blanket who will take a team 2pts adrift at the bottom of the league & very quickly turn them into a team 10pts adrift at the bottom of the league.
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Critchley is the kind of uninspiring wet blanket who will take a team 2pts adrift at the bottom of the league & very quickly turn them into a team 10pts adrift at the bottom of the league.
The Algorithm has a sense of humour😂
Critchleys maybe going for the sacking treble in the shortest possible time?
I still think that when the Joe 90 giant egg whisk stops spinning they will end up appointing that guy Al Gorithm who was lurking in the background all along.
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Perhaps the attraction is that he has a track record of working in close proximity to donkeys.Quote:
Originally Posted by erin go bragh
My money’s on it choosing Mr Tumble. He then attacks and kills Hearty Harry, holes up in the ‘hotel’ demanding a one to one with his creator the AI and finally invades the pitch at the next home derby stripping off his face paint and costume to reveals himself to be Romanov.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glory Lurker
Lee Johnson vibes. Although LJ track record looks betterQuote:
Originally Posted by erin go bragh
Strikes me as a very Hibs appointment. Heckingbottom / Johnson vibes.
No idea of Critchley will be any good and it’s getting to the point it’s impossible to tell, however I think it’s fair to say it’s not the sort of appointment Hearts fans would have been expecting due to the link with Bloom.
100% that vibe!!Quote:
Originally Posted by HFC93
As a Blackpool fan I can only say I hope so!!😂😂 he’s had two stints at Bloomfield Road, the first being something of a success getting Pool promoted from League One to the Championship and keeping them up the following season, however, a lot of this success from people involved within the club is attributed to his experienced number two’s who were one Colin Calderwood formally of this parish and Stuart McCall. Critchley then left Blackpool to work with Slippy Gerrard in his ill fated reign at Aston Villa and then became manager at QPR which was a complete disaster and he lasted about as long as Liz Truss in the job and was equally as successful! He was then reappointed boss at Blackpool after relegation in a highly unpopular appointment by the fans and his second spell was awful with mediocre to terrible results and performances, his brand of football was predictable and boring, purely based on possession statistics, he was stubborn and had no plan B whatsoever! It was unanimously celebrated by the fans when he was potted earlier this season.Quote:
Originally Posted by erin go bragh
In conclusion he sounds like the perfect fit for that lot. He is Cathro mark II🤞🤣
What a nonsense post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibs4185
But his ‘analytics’ were the best of all those interviewed apparentlyQuote:
Originally Posted by LancsHibs
Will Hearts fans address him as “Neil” or “Mr Critchley”?
When does CC Bloom ride into Gorgie
Mr Critchley. The are ****ing oddballsQuote:
Originally Posted by Carheenlea
Vast majority not happy with this appointment ,makes me feel better about our own SDG appointment ,seriously though with all the money they’re supposed to have surely they can do better :greengrin
It will be Mr Critchley as he will turn up wearing a cardiganQuote:
Originally Posted by Carheenlea
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Should fan ownership not help prevent situations where unpopular managers who don't enjoy the support of the fanbase are appointed?
It's not an easy matter to organise 400,000 votes and blackballing a manager they don't like is a no no as well as there isn't a big enough bag.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
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Originally Posted by Dashing Bob S
Is 'Annie Lytics' his assistant manager?
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Critchley : " Who are ye , Who are ye " .
Be better off with Annie LennoxQuote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
On the face of it, he’s an utterly terrible appointment IMO.
No manger is ever guaranteed to be a failure (or a success for that matter on the flip side), but in their current circumstances it was really hard to envisage such an uninspiring appointment being made.
As recent as a few days ago it looked like they were getting Hogmo which admittedly worried me a bit. McInnes and McGlynn were options who know Scottish football which also would have quite possibly worked out well for them.
Instead they have taken a failure from lower echelons of English football. I just don’t see this working out at all.
Bring on the 27th 🤞🏻
Poll on Kickback with over 600 respondents has only 8% of people thinking it is a good appointment. I hope its as bad as they think its going to be.
Makes you wonder what on earth their board are thinking:Quote:
Originally Posted by LaMotta
1) Whilst football fans aren’t half as smart as we think we are, 92% of a fan base opposing a managerial appointment must be close to unheard off (especially when he has no prior links to the club so it’s not personal), and probably aren’t wrong to feel that way. It’s not likely to work out and the new manager is going to be under early pressure if he doesn’t get results, especially if we can stick it to them in what will potentially be his 1st or 2nd game. Their board are going to get some big time flak if they if he’s crap. At least if fans support an appointment in the first place there is a feeling of mutual blame.
It's a very Hibs type appointment.
But without all those donations which apparently leave them all warm and fuzzy feeling about having a say in what's going on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Since452
Fan ownership still looks like just the one fan. Mrs doctor Budge.
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To be fair - when we appointed Gray, there didn’t seem to be a bottomless pit of outstanding candidates queueing up for the job that we overlooked.
Hecky’s departure was probably hastened by Jack Ross’ availability at the time.
Whilst in the past you might have had 3 or 4 realistic candidates who you may want and who’s be interested, it’s even looking impossible to prise Robinson or McInnes away to Hibs or Hearts.
Who does it leave you with? About a million managers with miser records including a fair bit of failure from down South.
And Craig Levein and Jim Jeffries. And Gary Locke.
I’m not sure how their fans felt about him the 1st time around, but I’m personally glad they never went for John McGlynn. He’s done phenomenally well with Falkirk and the Celtic cup match showed they can give anyone a game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
The stats must tell them he’s a good manager
Agree with all this mate. All I should point out there was 40% against the appointment and 50% roughly in the unsure/don't know camp. But 8% in favour is very low.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul1642
The fact everyone is saying how bad an appointment Critchley is makes me think he’ll end up doing brilliant for them 🤣
Thinking the same thing .Quote:
Originally Posted by Unseen work
Especially with a derby coming up
Against Motherwell fans started singing Halliday song , thought that’s going to comeback and haunt us , 20 minutes later goal ,
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Originally Posted by Nicho87
They've probably filtered the results wrong, they've got the bottom candidate instead of the top one 🤣
Yes they probably think they’re top of the leagueQuote:
Originally Posted by CraigHibee
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He sounds like a Charles Dickens character!Quote:
Originally Posted by gbhibby
Had a good rep a few years back could easily be a decent appointmentQuote:
Originally Posted by Unseen work
All he needs to do is beat us a week on Sunday and he'll be accepted immediately.
At least on the flip side of that if he loses then the fans will want him outQuote:
Originally Posted by Coco Bryce
I honestly think with how raging they are at the thought of him being appointed if there is the slightest bad result etc they’ll want him out and not get behind him
Seems a very similar appointment to when we appointed Johnson. No one really wanted him and he was on the back foot from the start.
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A few jambos saying Fox to take their team for this weekend meaning Critchleys first pumping in the league is in Sunny Leith💚
I’ve seen lots of people comparing him to Johnson, not for the same reasons as you to be fair, but I don’t see it, I think he’s very different to Johnson.Quote:
Originally Posted by we are hibs
LJ had achieved a relatively decent amount of success with most clubs he had been at and even when he was sacked by Sunderland there was an argument to say it was harsh as they were 3rd in the league.
This guy has been an unmitigated disaster in his last two managerial jobs and has only ever achieved success once.
The flip side to that though is that he’s clearly a well regarded coach, it’s just not clear if he can make the transition to becoming a manager in his own right. I don’t think LJ was ever regarded as a good coach before he was a manager, he went straight into first team management rather than working his way through the coaching ranks.
If he was to be compared to any of our previous managers I’d have thought it was maybe a Colin cakderwood or maybe a Paul Heckingbottom type appointment.
Don’t think his career to date is anything like Lee Johnson’s.
Cheap option.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football...s/c148y75zx7zo
We all know this is going to play out. Seen it too many times before.Quote:
Originally Posted by Springbank
Naismiths pay off was probably quite alot as he had not long just signed a new contract
That's maybe made them go for a cheaper option
What, hearts looking for their first win since May…
Two weeks of Hibs fans saying he’s a cheap and s***e option!
Seen this story before.
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Originally Posted by NorthNorfolkHFC
Hearts players will get the new manager bounce and they’ll play the best they have all season.
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Originally Posted by bingo70
Unmitigated disaster in his last job? QPR 100% a disaster but it’s a very small sample size.
I think he’s a decent appointment for them unfortunately.
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If he wins 48% at hearts, he'll be doing an excellent job.
Another 1st for themQuote:
Originally Posted by Paul1642
Of course.Quote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
His job at Blackpool though saw them just relegated from the Championship the previous season, so coming down and expecting to probably challenge at the top of the league. Whilst 48% would be good at Hearts, I’m not sure it was all that exciting at Blackpool in League One.
Seen it 100 times but there’s no reason for it to continue. Our fans are certainly in that mindset but Gray and the players certainly shouldn’t be. Hearts have always somehow managed to have a squad who get Derbys, even when they are otherwise crap, but looking at their current squad and new manager I’m just not sure that’s going to be the case for once.Quote:
Originally Posted by NorthNorfolkHFC
I really, really, really hope you're right, but I can't deny I've got a nasty feeling about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul1642
He might turn out to be good for them , who knows…. Though if the Data presented them many top quality coaches was Neil Critchley really the best they could come up with…
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/foot...-guided-search
It's ridiculous that we're sitting only 3 points ahead of a team that hasn't won a game on these shores for nearly 160 days (that's 16 games including friendlies btw). We should have left them in the dust by now.
Really need to win this Derby.
Ekipeta will know what he’s like
Critchley definitely has experience managing at a decent enough level.
Have to question the super duper best-in-class data analysis if he's the best candidate though. Just seems like a run of the mill top end Scottish Premiership appointment. What was his other options really? Rebuild again in League One.
Some mixed views … St mirren really 3/1 Saturday 🤔…
https://avftt.co.uk/index.php?thread...2%80%A6.57047/
If I was a Jambo (and thank god I'm not) this data driven analytics stuff would highly concern me. Anyone who knows anything about Scottish football knows it's blood and thunder. All that nonsense goes out the window. It might work in the EPL with high quality players on bowling green pitches and Sky's fortune to play with but here? They're sitting bottom of the league. What they need is someone who can get them out of this mess by hook or crook. Someone streetwise about Scottish football. Critchley/Bloom and the data stuff would utterly terrify me.
I'm obviously heartbroken about this.....
:agree: yip, FAR too many times unfortunatelyQuote:
Originally Posted by HFC93
Hearts could appoint Daffy Duck as manager & they would still beat us 9 times out of 10. Let’s hope he is a complete disaster but I don’t think I’ll write him off just yet.
On paper looks an underwhelming appointment but we know you don’t have a to be a genius to be a successful manager in Scotland. Hope he fails miserably starting on 27th
Such an odd appointment and the official quotes use the word analytics about 8 times.
I get the need for good data and it can make a difference but it sounds like Hearts want to claim to be the first club if world football to use data as part of a key person appointment 🤣🤣🤣
I bet the analytics spreadsheet doesn’t ask what Scottish football experience do you have…
Im not sure analysing past stuff does much good.
Better to be innovative moving forward and not sit on it.
Stay one step ahead while other are using analytics they are behind
Points don't carry over different seasonsQuote:
Originally Posted by Pagan Hibernia
3pts above them and a game in hand, so win the game in hand and the derby and we would be 9 pts above them with 8 games played.
https://youtu.be/Me6z_LWjJZ0?si=iNrzKeK5OCMxw7bfQuote:
Originally Posted by Col2
Used Jamestown Analytics to appoint new boss apparently.
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The analytic data gave them the best person for the job however that person supposedly turned them down however I have a feeling Budge and co didn’t want to pony up for the best candidate.
I also don’t believe this new guy was anywhere near the top of their analytic data.
Also had a chuckle at McKinleys quote about him being used to working with big teams like Liverpool (remember that special arrangement) They just cannot help themselves.
I just find it hard to believe that a professional football club in this day and age will progress significantly all of a sudden with an analytical approach to recruitment. Maybe a junior team turning professional etc but at our level? Dubious to say the least. Got at best "underwhelming" written all over it. At worst disaster.
Brighton and Brentford have both become established Premier League teams with that as a driver.Quote:
Originally Posted by Since452
And the point was probably without the skewed backdrop of crazy TV money that would never workQuote:
Originally Posted by B.H.F.C
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Originally Posted by Aldo
He has to be the biggest walloper in Scottish football, he is such a smug twat.
The narrative Hearts are running with "this being all about the analytics" is absolutely bonkers, it shows how naive the fat twat is. If his appointment bombs then where do they go from there?
Popcorn at the ready...
look at his LinkedIn lolz
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McKinley or Critchley didn’t fill me with much confidence on Reporting Scotland tonight but I am not a Hearts fan 😀
Will be interesting to see how this one pans out ?
Popcorn at the ready
Totally agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Not In The Know
He cannot help himself can he. Everything is either the bestest or the bigliest whatever they talk about or do.
Looks like this guy is definitely not the first or second candidate and I would suspect that a large percentage were outwith their financial clout as the first knockback proved.
They’ve had a rethink and plucked this guy out of the blue to match their budget.
Did Fat Brian ask about his lack of Scottish football experience?
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Surely the other big sides use analytics too? Id imagine City, Liverpool ect all have their football analysis departments and that will merge into recruitment.Quote:
Originally Posted by B.H.F.C
The way they've spun the Norwegian guy turning them down is pure Hearts.
Absolutely guaranteed if that was Hibs McLaughlin would have had the headline as "Hogmo turns down Hibees".
I've no idea if Critchley will be a good appointment or not but you can be certain Hear7s fans egos will be a bit bruised as they clearly think they are big enough to attract a bigger name. They clearly aren't.
He's forever gaslighting them and it seems to work on a lot of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aldo
It’s not just him though. Budge has been at it since she’s taken over and Vlad before her.Quote:
Originally Posted by 007
Given our current run of form, and many decades of supporting Hibs, I think I'll hold off on slagging them for their choice of a new Head Coach until we see how both teams' seasons pan out.
McKinlay says Critchley is the only one they negotiated with. Presumably because Hogmo burst out laughing when they made an offer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Since90+2
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Originally Posted by Keith_M
Totally agree with you. Stating the obvious, but we must start winning games. They only need to put a bit of run together to leapfrog ahead of us.
Any team that can string a few results together over 4 /5 games will shoot up the table, hopefully we are the ones to do it, but I won't be holding my breath.
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Originally Posted by Keith_M
With respect.
Stockholm syndrome pish.
[looks up Stockholm Syndrome pish]Quote:
Originally Posted by Not In The Know
Nae googling so beer addled memory…
was that not when captives sympathised with their captors?
It's really not. It's a pretty basic and well written tale that managers can find one club or situation that works for them, despite a few previous failing. Daft to write off the bloke before a ball kicked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Not In The Know
I'll mock if we win the derby, not before.
Fat brian will never have a probing question for his beloved masters , he's there for the bacon rolls.Quote:
Originally Posted by we are hibs
I agree with what your saying about a manager can find one club or situation that works for him after failing previously and in truth nobody knows how he’ll do there though that’s not really the point , is it ? …Quote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
All we have heard is their boasting about using Data / analysis from Bloom to identify the right manager , a lot of their deluded muppets were at one stage talking about types of managers like Knutsen and even Moyes ….
Only for their supposedly No 1 target to be unaffordable so after all the data / analysis they appoint Neil Critchley as manager with McKinley stating they never negotiated with anyone else .. more or less making out he was their only target after everything… 💩
Even most of their fans are underwhelmed by this … and mocking them about it is fair game in my book wither there’s a derby coming up or not … as it says on the tin F…………
A manager with little to zero experience of the Scottish league
Hibs very recent appointments always went down well with this approach
The analytics must have been not there when went down this road
I look forward to hearts telling the bams how wonderful it’s working etc then it’ll all come crashing down when a few losses start mounting up
Popcorn ready
His Wikipedia playing analytics are pretty solid to be fair
Senior career*
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Team
Apps
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Crewe Alexandra
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His first game is v St Mirren, who are no mugs middle-to-front (their front 2 are a handful)
His first training session (by all accounts) was like a pre-season fitness test
Even without expensive analytics, I'd be confident in saying that aims for long-term results but guarantees you short-term problems
What does that mean?
It means I'm looking at odds for a late goal (or two) from Saints on Saturday as the Hearts squad tire this weekend
Is there any truth in the rumour that 2 of the names thrown up by the Bloom algorithm that rated highly were Lee Johnson and Nick Montgomery? LJ due to his managerial experience, 10+ years, including in the Championship. NM for his success winning the Grand Final with Central Coast Mariners but moreso for the young players he developed there, as head of the academy and then Head Coach, which seemingly was one of the key criteria for Hearts. Both with experience managing in the Scottish Premiership and supposedly were ranked above Critchley but were immediately ruled out for obvious reasons.
To be fair one of his opening two questions were around Critchley not being first choice to which their CEO was clearly irked by - the CEO is also thick as mince as on the one hand they said Critchley was their preferred candidate then at the end said they had first contact “back end of last week” 😂 it’s abundantly clear Hogmo had advanced talks and turned them down.Quote:
Originally Posted by percy veer
Hibs results against Hearts, first derby against newly appointed Hearts manager (multiple spells included, caretaker managers excluded), last 20 years (most recent first): 1-0, 1-2, 2-0, 1-0, 0-0, 1-2, 0-0, 1-1, 0-2, 1-2, 1-1, 0-1, 0-4, 1-4, 0-4, 1-1
Played: 16
Won: 3
Drawn: 5
Lost: 8
Can't comment on whether or not there is any truth in this - but it is far and away the best rumour I've heard in ages.Quote:
Originally Posted by 007
It's also David Grays first derby as Hibs manager and no Hibs manager has lost their first derby in charge since Stubbs [emoji106]Quote:
Originally Posted by SHODAN
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Good point well made! In the last 20 years our results in our manager's first derby are: 2-2, 1-1, 0-0, 2-0, 2-1, 0-0, 1-2, 2-1, 1-3, 0-2, 0-0, 0-1, 1-0, 1-2Quote:
Originally Posted by we are hibs
Played: 14
Won: 4
Drawn: 5
Lost: 5
Much more even, with an unbeaten record in the last decade.
A thread to take the piss out of Hearts (bottom of the league and appointed a very average on paper head coach identified by the expensive excel spreadsheet ) and posters on here moaning about our derby record and Grays managerial start 😡
Enjoy the fun times and take a day off
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Well said.Quote:
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Well I’m an eternal optimist and I have high hopes for this Los Yambolinos appointment. It seems they’ve been watching our selection procedures closely and have decided that for people who have no knowledge of the game whatsoever, the best selection method is to go for the guy who can do the most effective stat-laden power point presentation, and completely ignore his mediocre at best record.
A bad start and it will be some dressing room
Buzzing to see what the analytics throw up in January. It's great entertainment so far.