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The players should be ashamed of today and get a donation into this fund.
What a joke.
HSL should withdraw the money
Hibs don’t deserve the backing they get from their supporters. They really don’t.
another hideous result in a long long list of letdowns.
Charlatan club
Petty of me so I’ll resist the urge for now but I genuinely am considering stopping my monthly sub.
I have no idea what they do at HTC as we have no style of play, we are fortunate rest of league have struggled financially etc.
I'd reckon there ain't much hope now in this campaign getting the contributions that some
people intended to make next week...
Can't honestly say I blame anyone either.
It's a hell of a hard sell now after that display, but perhaps we need this initiative even more now, to try and bring in better quality, no matter who the manager is. We need better quality players as we are no as good as most would think.
Will still be getting my money when I get paid
This is why results and performances like tonight are so damaging.
The guys at HSL have come up with a great idea and have really run with it. There was a bit of steam behind it and a win tonight would have seen us getting pretty close to the £100K. As it is all the momentum is stopped in it's tracks and there won't be one solitary one off donation made from this point on.
Clubs are always looking for fans to contribute that little bit more and more often than not the fans stand up and are counted when it matters. The club and team have to do their bit as well though and tonight they most certainly did not. I'm not one for threatening to not renew a ST or discontinue my HSL subscription or whatever but this is different. This is another bit extra over and above and it needs momentum. That doesn't exist now and thus the campaign will fizzle out rather than going from strength to strength.
Anyway well done to all involved for a very good effort. Hopefully when the dust settles we can run with something similar in future.
Hey if a want ti post ma opinion and to keep posting my opinion then I will do it, if you dont like it then you know what you can do eh!
Maybe a just care too much about the Hibs and watching that schite today hurts. now be a good boy will you you know the rest.
:cb
As it is all the momentum is stopped in it's tracks and there won't be one solitary one off donation made from this point on.
I get tonight was crap, but statements like this are a bit over the top imo. I am sure many folk that choose to donate to HSL are very much about the big picture.
Based on the second half debacle I feel like asking fir a refund of my forty quid
But it’s now Uo to Ross to ensure we don’t start slipping down the league
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Get Ross so far to *edited. Don’t bypass the swear filter ** b4 he loses everything u guys r building,waking up.
the manager is everything to a football club and he offers us zero!!
No personality,no relsults when the club need them.
Ok let’s be happy with 4th In this league!
Will be honest and say that I didn’t donate as I wanted to see how tonight went.
Put enough money in to Hibs. Need a bit more back to make me want to put more in.
Millionaire owner should cover the costs surely now hes not stopped shares being given out.
If you want to own something you can pay to run it.
Stuff like this, and any fundraising/marketing when trying to raise cash for Hibs, is always at the mercy of the team doing their bit on the pitch. It was looking like we might have hit the incredibly ambitious target of £100k with a decent result last night and a bit of wind in our sails.
As can happen in football sometimes we’re now dealing with people asking HS to hold on to the money until a different manager can spend it, asking for a refund, asking the owner to put his hand in his pocket etc etc.
Hibernian Supporters is there to back to club financially through an incredibly difficult period just now and it will continue to do so win, lose or draw. We’re all disappointed with the result last night but regardless of that the Hampden drive is going to raise a significant sum of money for the club - the club we all support and will continue to support regardless of who’s in charge or who is the principle shareholder.
The frustration is understandable and I anticipate a few hostile replies to the first post that goes out from the HS social media accounts next time we have an update on the sums raised this month but if we stopped trying to help every time Hibs turned in a disappointing result we wouldn’t get very far, would we?
A thanks again to everyone who has backed the drive so far, I’m sure there will be some contributions coming in between now and the end of the month as the dust settles - fingers crossed we can deliver a decent sum of cash to help the club make the most of the rest of this season and beyond.
Points well made, I agree every word. It's Hibs we are talking about here, if it was disappointments like yesterday that were going to drive us away I'd have given up Hibs in the 70's[emoji1]
Crap results will come and go for sure, Hibs always need to be around. Thanks for all you've taken the trouble to do to ensure this happens.
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Tell the folk who ask for a refund to ram it.
Was thinking about stopping my DD when There were no more shares to purchase but never got to it.Kind of glad I haven’t
Wow, some seriously pathetic ‘fans’ on here today.
Had to hold off till today because of my payday but one off donation made. Like everyone, disappointed in the outcome but a worthwhile initiative.
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Those talking of cancelling DDs or asking for refunds have it completely backwards.... this initiative is to help the club.
Do you think stopping donations or asking for refunds will do that?
If anything don’t you think increasing awareness of the campaign is the way to rectify things that are bothering you...? Some want new CBs some a new striker... do you think these come free? During a pandemic?
Pull ur heads out and lift your fingers from the keyboard and save the rest of us the trouble of having to read these negative rantings.
Ridiculous comments about fellow fans. If I consider cancelling my DD, I’ll do that on my own accord, thanks. If anything comments like this encourage me to do so.
During pandemic there is certain times I couldn’t give a damn about Hibs as quite frankly there are more important things in life. So if I stop my donations I will have 0 guilt.
Maybe club could sign a CB or strikers instead of signings centre mids constantly?
Irony in this is your post is a negative rant.
HSL has and continues to give our club money that makes possible the signing of better players and a better chance of winning silverware.
Yesterday was another great chance to win silverware. It was another major failure to win silverware but there will be other opportunities to win silverware in the future.
Quitters never win and winners never quit🤞
In the context of a global pandemic anyone is entitled to do what they need to do to make ends meet... if I missed this point in the posts I have read then I apologise.
In the context of cancelling donations cos we lost a semi final then well I think those ‘fans’ need to take a long look at themselves.
Also don’t think my post was a needless negative rant like most I’m responding to... and can only be viewed as negative by those I’m describing too.
Haha nice condescending post. Let me get this straight, those deciding to not sacrifice money for Hibs are fine as everyone is entitled to do that but anybody considering stopping their donations because we got humiliated by St Johnstone are just ‘fans’.
Don’t think you understand sacrifice and what bad things do to decision making. Probably can’t see it from your pedestal anyway.
If stopping my donations suddenly makes me a ‘fan’ then you can call me a ‘fan’ pretty soon as I’ve had enough of this condescending attitude while I sacrifice hard-earned cash to Hibs.
Do as you need to... if it’s based on a poor result I’m entitled to feel disappointed in you and any others who decide to cancel HSL contributions down to a few poor results.
If you are cancelling as you have other needs that the money will go better towards then as I have already said do so as well. Supporting the club through HSL is not a right, it’s a privilege... no one is asking to put the cause before more important things.
I don’t sacrifice any of my hard earned cash on HSL... I donate an amount that I deem affordable, if I couldn’t afford to then I wouldn’t donate... poor results won’t change my opinion on whether it’s ‘worth it’.
You aren’t entitled to feel disappointed in me whatsoever. Your posts definitely show you feel entitled but ultimately I do what I want with my money when I want.
I’m just a ‘fan’ so I’ll stop my DD this week. Wasn’t going to but I won’t be treated like a lesser fan because I’m deemed to be negative. I’ll leave making donations to the honourable that are able to step up and become true fans. Done with this rubbish, always fans fault.
You’ve lost it mate... huge chip on your shoulder!
And yes, I am entitled to feel however I feel about whatever I want to pass judgement on, it’s bloody human nature to have an emotional reaction to something, to anything and in this instance I’m feeling disappointed in someone cancelling their support for the club down to one specific result.
You’ve made this completely about yourself, and I’ve obviously hit a nerve with my ‘fans’ comment.... so be it, but that’s my opinion and guess what, I’m entitled to form my own opinion as well.... regardless of what anyone says or thinks, that’s my choice and I’ll stand by it.
Not once have you come out and said you have other financial needs that are now worth it more than donating to hibs...you’ve simply said, and I’m paraphrasing, ‘we played rubbish last night so I’m cancelling my donations’... your priorities are your own and not once have i suggested you shouldn’t stop your DD, only that in my opinion doing so on the back of a poor result seems not really in the spirit of the whole thinking behind HSL.
Also it’s not the ability to donate towards HSL and hibs that makes anyone more of a fan than any other, but pulling your financial support simply cos of one result is definitely a reason to call you a ‘fan’.
I’m not cancelling my DD because of one specific result. Cancelling because of poor appreciation of fan sacrifice by certain quarters, shining through in posts like yours.
You stand by your ‘fan’ nonsense all you want. This measurement of a fan that seems to get done by those holier-than-thou is tiresome. Driven me away from contributing anymore. You made it about me by calling out who you perceive to be ‘fans’.
My life is more important than Hibs.
Is almost like you expect something in return for your ‘sacrifice’.... jeezo!
HSL have been more than humble about the support they’ve received... what else do you expect?? They’ve even put your name on a shirt... that’s something special, but you obviously want more.
I don’t think many folk would say hibs are more important than most things in their life... not sure what point your making there... unless you are saying you have actively given money to HSL over more important aspects of your life... if that’s the case I think it’s a good thing you cancel as if you need to use the cash elsewhere then do so... football is not worth struggling financially for anyone.
Where have I suggested anything in return? You’re now doing ‘sacrifice’ as well. You show a complete lack of respect.
HSL have been very respectful about situations etc. and they are doing a great job. Never said anything about that.
You however have done ‘sacrifice’ and ‘fans’ and seem to think you can judge any decisions I make regarding HSL. I’m done with it because of that. You have absolutely no right.
Just to clarify I’m not struggling financially but I’ve stopped my DD. Not putting up with this level of nonsense when I can have a bit extra in my wallet every month. Ludicrous to be critiqued for what is essentially a charitable donation.
I can’t speculate on your donation amount but unless you are sacrificing a hefty part of your pay packet then I wouldn’t call it a ‘sacrifice’ whatsoever.... and by calling it a sacrifice so often it makes one think you DO expect something in return...
Off you pop...
In fact the nonsense you’ve spouted for the past hour or so has inspired me to up my donations...
It’s not a charitable donation, it’s to help fund a football that is dear to all of us on here.
To stop contributing because you are struggling financially is completely understandable, to stop contributing because of one result or because you have taken offence to something an internet stranger has said is completely childish.
Any money you do give is a sacrifice, even £5 a month is a coffee or a lunch. Maybe one should think in those terms on his pedestal. You are giving money you could spend elsewhere. You are sacrificing the choice by monthly sub that takes that money.
On you go super fan!
Nope.
I budget my salary and decide what goes where... nothing is a sacrifice.
Sacrifices are hard... giving money I ‘could’ spend elsewhere to Hibs is my choice, and it’s not a hard choice.
You say you don’t struggle but are equating a £5 donation to not buying a lunch or a coffee.... that’s not a choice I, nor many HSL contributors, nor fans buying tickets or buying a pie at the game are making.
If it were then it would be an easy choice... it would be the former.
If it were the latter then I think I’d need my head examined.
Said poster chose to direct his tirade at me after I posted my opinion on the general comments floating around cancelling/asking for refunds due to last night’s result.
His decision to cancel is his own and I very much doubt my contribution is the sole reason... in fact if it was he who had made the comment about cancelling prior to my OP on the subject then it’s more likely he had made up his mind long before my contributions.
As another poster has pointed out, if his decision was initially based on one result then its a bit childish... this was the pint I had made, it struck a nerve that I used inverted commas to describe those who were of the same opinion as he.
To lump any blame on me is just deflecting from his initial rubbish suggestion.
Not at any point in my initial post did I single anyone out... he chose to engage...
On that note it would be great to get the thread moving back in a positive direction if we can, there are plenty of threads on the go where we can discuss our frustrations about last night.
Regardless of the result yesterday and what comes in from generous supporters between now and the end of the month I think this has been an excellent example of fans pulling together to try and help our club.
It’s been heartening to read people coming forward to help, with supporters groups and individual fans rallying together to contribute. We’ve even had fans donating over and above to make up for others who may have been unable to contribute in these tough times.
Whatever the total is by the end of the month we’ll have raised a significant sum of money which might have allowed us to strengthen the squad this month where we’d otherwise have been unable - it may allow us to strengthen further between now and the transfer deadline.
The last thing we want to do is isolate anyone who does or doesn’t donate - this initiative has been a positive thing so let’s try and finish it off with a flourish rather than an argument.
Anyone wishing to pay, stop paying or never intend to ever pay is within their own right.
I’d maybe just suggest anyone intending stopping paying due to being angry following yesterday to think about it in a few days time.
Everything is (understandably) still raw after yesterday
This thread didn’t have to go this way even after such a result. People had a choice in the direction of the thread, just as I have a choice in the direction my money goes.
One bad result and ‘fans’ and ‘sacrifices’ gets pulled out in an attempt to demean fellow fans. One bad result and essentially being called a lesser fan has made me think I can spend my money better elsewhere, surely that’s fairly sensible?
This is a donation. If I got similar nonsense from donors of a Charity I would consider what I’m doing there as well.
Once your on this train, apart from financial ruin what’s an acceptable reason for getting off? Looks like all stations before financial difficulties make you a ‘fan’.
We are Hibs, this is our club. When Ron Gordon has gone, any Manager, any player, it will still be our Club. S**t or S**t hot, still our Club.
Never forget.
Never did I question your donation or non donation as a reason for being a fan.... I did however question your reasoning to suggest cancelling based on last night as poor reason that I would not liken to a fan of any club.
‘We lost so I’m stopping my donation’
‘We lost so I want a refund’
Those are the type of fans no one wants.
I vented like many on a fans forum during the game and immediate aftermath of the game. You let the dust settle and brought up posts made during a time of anger. A day after the match you decided to dig out these people and say ‘fans’. Think your intention is fairly obvious. Your post wasn’t to get people back onside and get positivity into this thread, no matter how you swing it.
There should be a campaign for all the players/staff to donate two weeks wages to get over the £100k after that disgrace last night. Although wouldn’t expect much from this group anyway
Fans should support their club through the worst times, not just the best.
Anyway, onwards and upwards.
im hurting after last night like everyone else but I’m going to increase my monthly donation.
good times will happen again.
I was as pissed off as anyone else after yesterday. I actually was thinking about whether or not I would renew my ST for the coming season. Anyway after sleeping on it I have decided to renew as usual, I will also be making a second donation to the HSL 100k for Hampden effort as well as my usual DD contribution. I'm lucky I suppose that I can afford it but Hibs are more than one result in one game. If you can afford it please keep donating, if you already have what's the point in asking for a refund? If you can't contribute due to finance issues then don't do it but please don't chuck it due to one, admittedly horrific, performance
I am not an Uber fan, I started to contribute because I saw the impact it has at clubs who are our direct challengers. It is a fairly new initiative in football, but one which a team like Hibs can't afford to overlook.
I fully get that not everyone can afford it or shares my view and I respect that.
Football clubs are important to communities and worth safeguarding. I don't expect anything in return for my donation other than it benefits the club. Yesterday was a bad result, but football is strange at the moment without fans. Players may feel jaded. Lots of elements in play and in cup football you get bad days. Losing to Livi in the final, Hearts losing to At Mirren in the final, Celtic losing to Raith in the final. Trophies that should have gone one way but didn't.
There's always the next game
Hey madh I had some random have a go at me as well, it's just an internet forum **** them, it is perhaps even more important now that we stick with Hibs, and if anyone can then keep giving, if you cannot afford then please don’t and use your cash for some other reason. don’t allow others to dictate how you feel or to dictate your behaviour in any way. we are all Hibs, i will keep going and that could be with a new manager or without it is a remarkable thing we are all trying to help with. I would hope that all who can afford it re-new efforts to give even more as some have hinted, great stuff, we are all in this together as We are all Hibs.
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On the argument regarding a return I am looking for a return, maybe not a physical return but I want the money to be used wisely and appropriately and for Hibs to be better on the pitch. I want Hibs to be getting into cup finals and qualifying for Europe. When we put extra money (over and above ST and merch) and see performances like the one against hearts and the since the Ross county game onwards it does make you wonder where the hell that money is going.
I don’t blame anyone for stopping their d/d on performances, is that different to someone taking a break or packing in their ST? As someone said above it’s their money let them do what they want with it. Let’s face it, if we won yesterday this conversation wouldn’t be taking place it’s all on JR and the team.
Jan 2nd was the 50th anniversary of my first Hibs game. 2-2 at Easter Road v Cowden- ****ing - beath.
It was **** then, it’s been **** in between and it was **** last night.
But every now and again magical wee moments happen, like the one in your avatar, and I remember why we all bother.
You’ll feel better after a while, this will go away and there’s not a question of any fan being a better one than the other outside of the usual juvenile ‘see who can pee the highest’ crap we endure on here and other parts of social media.
We all just get on with it so that the Hibs are still there to boot our baws!
Cancel if you like, it’s only your choice to make. But you’ll be back, you love them as much as the rest of us.
We're all fuming after that performance and one or two others this season, but its at time like this, no matter how emotionally p****d off we are, that our support is vital. Both financially and emotionally.
Our funding helps towards building a better Hibs.
Ive contributed to HSL from the start but sadly for me my monthly income may reduce very soon. I may have to reconsider where my money goes. I will however renew my season ticket provided there is a payment plan again.
Every one is different and I bear no ill will to anyone who stops at all.
Lets live and let live
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Kaimendhibs
Can we first of all say thank you very much for your support to date. As we have said many times before, we should always put things in context and if your donation to HSL is difficult, please don't make it. Supporters should only donate if it is spare cash that they won't miss.
Every one of your Directors and our other volunteers are all Hibs daft so we felt the pain of Saturday just like everyone else. Hampden Hoodoo, or whatever we want to call, it just hurts hard.
We do however have to move on. Hibernian Supporters Ltd is the second largest shareholder in the Club and from the outset we have taken that responsibility seriously. As with any other business, shareholding is for the long term and in our case, probably forever.
To all those supporters who have made a donation to the Campaign after 7.30pm on Saturday, thank you. It’s not easy to “buy” a ticket for a match that you know we have already lost. Prior to the result on Saturday we had high hopes of getting close to our target. Hitting our target would be great but as many others have said this initiative was simply about helping our Club through this difficult period and making more funds available to the Football Dept. We continue that Campaign as planned. We owe it to all the supporters who have helped us with this initiative. We owe that to our fellow supporters who are not Members of HSL and prefer to click the “donate only” button.
So, once again, can we appeal to all those who had intended to donate to this initiative and stick with us.
Hibernian Supporters
Pretty Boy
We are sure that this is one of those occasions when you are delighted to be proved wrong.
Can we thank the supporters who have continued to make donations since Saturday night. Also, can we extend our thanks to St Giles Branch who have also donated post Saturday night.
We remain hopeful of donating a significant sum and can only hope that those supporters who had intended to donate come pay day still do so.
Once again, thank you to everyone who has donated thus far.
Hibernian Supporters
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55823170
Dundee United fans giving their club £100k. There a wealthy owner as well and never even got near a semi final. :greengrin
Don’t understand the model they have as a a fans group...
They gather money as a fans group and then vote whether to give it to club? Seems very strange, what’s the options on the ballot...
I’m sure these are funds that would’ve been for the fan group itself being repurposed or something but surely given pandemic the options were:
Give to club
Save for rainy day
We are starting to see the impact of donations made last week on the banked total, which now sits at £40,506.
Thanks again to everyone who has donated this month and to those still planning to donate. The goal remains the same as it always has, to provide significant financial support to the club at an important time of a strange season.
That's great news if folk have been continuing to donate after Saturday's dire result. They clearly manage to shake off disappointment/anger quicker than me! Fair play to them.
I paid my £25 last week and bearing in mind that Jack Ross said before the game that the players would be inspired by the fans' generosity when they took to the Hampden pitch I think we were entitled to feel extremely let down by them. Despite the ongoing loyalty from some, Pretty Boy is surely right to suggest there will be a significant decline in donations now and it might do the players no harm to be reminded of what their half-hearted second half display is costing the club.
Maybe better bypassing the club and offering money as a bonus to the players.
Sorry but you are so very wrong in referring to Pretty Boy's quote. I suggest you read his post again.
HLS came on and told people what was happening, not what Pretty Boy thought would happen.
No doubt Pretty Boy probably was feeling like the rest of us and probably was blowing off some steam. I'm sure his ire was directed at the team and not HSL.
When things are so raw and fragile just now during these troubling times, it helps not to create false negativity.
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superfurryhibby
We are sure you will be very pleased to hear that we are managing to beat your estimate. To date we have banked over £46,000 with £000's more pending. As we said before it can take up to seven days for payments to wind their way through the system.
We have, as expected, seen a decline in donations as our momentum was impaired with the result. On the positive side we are incredibly heartened by all those fellow supporters who have stuck with their pledge and donated £25 from their pay. We are also still getting new Members joining, including a lump sum payment of £225 this morning ( you know who you are ).
As ever our aim remains the same, to give the Club a nice January boost at these very difficult times.
Hibernian Supporters