Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

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Originally Posted by lucky

No it'd been changed to Hampden due to demand

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Where are you getting this from? This needs to be coordinated properly or it'll look like people don't care.

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Originally Posted by bighairyfaeleith

Not looking for an argument with you, someone, but not you:wink:

In terms of the tickets being mis-sold well, we are being sold tickets on the basis the clubs are voting for sporting integrity and then behind our backs they have done the opposite. They have lied to the fans to sell tickets.(allegedly)

We are being sold tickets on the basis that any team can win the league, any team can be relegated. Yet they are ensuring that only ten of the twelve can actually be relegated and only two can ever win.

By taking this action they are complicit in allowing the old firm to continue to cheat, yes cheat, there way to trophy after trophy. Therefore they are taking our money by deceitful means.

Personally I would take this all the way to the financial ombudsman, I might lose but I'd do it anyway just to ensure a rough ride for the money men.

We cannot sit back and accept this.

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Load of tosh I'm afraid.Any deceit would be fraud over the tickets-if you choose to borrow money to buy them well that's up to you.

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Originally Posted by ronaldo7

Anybody:confused:

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Just a guess but those who vote for it? :confused:

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Originally Posted by ancient hibee

Load of tosh I'm afraid.Any deceit would be fraud over the tickets-if you choose to borrow money to buy them well that's up to you.

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maybe, but can you imagine the pressure everyone cancelling there direct debits would bring on hibs, I don't claim to be an oracle of the law, but I know what will hurt

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Originally Posted by ronaldo7

Anybody:confused:

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They're betting that the SFL1 clubs would cave in and join SPL2.

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Originally Posted by FranckSuzy

Just a guess but those who vote for it? :confused:

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Like Cowdenbeath?

So the SPL put a gun to the heads of the SFL, and then accept some of those clubs into SPL2, but only those who vote yes?

What if they don't get the 75% voting yes?

This is nothing less than a betrayal Mr Petrie. An insult to the integrity of Hibs supporters thinking we would back this disgrace. If you or the other SPL chairmen think more of the Rangers hordes and a lousy TV deal than you do of your own fans then i hope you are all ready to face the consequences.
No Compromises to a club that has cheated our game for the best part of 15 years. Apply the rules....that is all we ask.

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Originally Posted by ronaldo7

Like Cowdenbeath?

So the SPL put a gun to the heads of the SFL, and then accept some of those clubs into SPL2, but only those who vote yes?

What if they don't get the 75% voting yes?

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Then they will be back with another plan, this whole thing stinks. :brickwall

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Originally Posted by ronaldo7

Like Cowdenbeath?

So the SPL put a gun to the heads of the SFL, and then accept some of those clubs into SPL2, but only those who vote yes?

What if they don't get the 75% voting yes?

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That's the million dollar question R :agree:

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Originally Posted by bighairyfaeleith

maybe, but can you imagine the pressure everyone cancelling there direct debits would bring on hibs, I don't claim to be an oracle of the law, but I know what will hurt

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at this moment, it's only the season ticket holders that can put serious pressure on every chairman to do the right thing

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Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875

at this moment, it's only the season ticket holders that can put serious pressure on every chairman to do the right thing

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no we all can, season ticket holders can withhold payments. Pay at the gate fans can simply not turn up.

All fans can complain to there MP's, MSP's and councillors.

Scotland today just reported the scottish government are watching developments, like I said earlier, time to raise the bar.

This is about the future of our great game, the money men can **** right off if they think they are getting it without a fight!!

I'm glad I never got round to renewing yet - and if this statement turns out to be accurate probably will not bother now until Petrie is gone.

Should this turn out to be accurate and the SPL chairmen (including Petrie) are blackmailing the SFL into allowing the Rangers just a year out (and a £1 million reward) then Petrie must be removed from his position.

I thought this was finally over last week and we could just look forward to the new season. All the other clubs were satisfied with SFL 3 and even the Rangers fans were happy that was a fair punishment.

Disgusting.

Slightly different angle here but .........

.. irrespective of the outcome of the current shennanigans - if the newco has to agree to take responsibility for previous behaviour of oldco is it not likely that newco will eventually be thrown out of whatever league they're in if they're found guilty of using dual contracts?

I don't know if this proposal is for real but reading it makes me sad for Scottish football.If it happens to be true then be prepared for every Hun you ever meet telling you that they are bigger than the rest of Scottish football put together, "we arra peepel" we do what we want etc etc.

It is a complete betrayal of each and every football fan in Scotland outwith the OF and Rangers in particular. If our club chairman has colluded with them in any way he should ashamed of himself as it seems that the vast majority of Hibs fans do not agree with this decision and a lot were actually planning on how they could fill the deficit left without the tarnished money we would get from them being in the SPL.

If it comes to pass that they play anywhere except div3 next year then after 39 years of doing so I will no longer attend any football matches in this country. I have seen Hibs play in the first division twice, lose several cup finals, win a couple, followed them to Europe, been to two world cups and a Euro championship to watch Scotland but never ever again will I give a single penny to the crooks and con men who masquerade as the regulators and owners of our clubs and game.

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Originally Posted by weecounty hibby

I don't know if this proposal is for real but reading it makes me sad for Scottish football.If it happens to be true then be prepared for every Hun you ever meet telling you that they are bigger than the rest of Scottish football put together, "we arra peepel" we do what we want etc etc.

It is a complete betrayal of each and every football fan in Scotland outwith the OF and Rangers in particular. If our club chairman has colluded with them in any way he should ashamed of himself as it seems that the vast majority of Hibs fans do not agree with this decision and a lot were actually planning on how they could fill the deficit left without the tarnished money we would get from them being in the SPL.

If it comes to pass that they play anywhere except div3 next year then after 39 years of doing so I will no longer attend any football matches in this country. I have seen Hibs play in the first division twice, lose several cup finals, win a couple, followed them to Europe, been to two world cups and a Euro championship to watch Scotland but never ever again will I give a single penny to the crooks and con men who masquerade as the regulators and owners of our clubs and game.

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Virtually word for word the email i have just sent off to Hibs.

Erm maybe shouldn't have emailed Rod then ... Och well doesn't do any harm ... Wasn't expecting a Christmas Card anyway :-)

Does anyone know how the other (nonhun) clubs' fans are reacting to this?

depends wording is a bit woolly, sounds like they have to pay back footballing debts but that is all. So the wee newsagent round the corner still gets ripped off.

Also, why go through all this if the end result is the same, just put them straight into division three.

I dont want to assume that 2 + 2 = 4 as reported with this ridiclous document and the meeting between Petrie and Green, but IF it is - IF - then the gates at ER will be tiny next year.

Given the pap of the last few years, going to ER has been habit rather than fun. Take the any vestige of point in going to matches away - take away that wee bit of hope that sport can deliver success against the odds, even on the odd occasion, then it is pointless.

I've other things I can do on Saturdays, and I'll do them. I love football as a sport, and I wont give up on it at grassroots/youth, because if this goes through then in a very few short years the entire face of senior football will have changed. I dont see why they cant see this. No fans = no senior game. No fans going taking kids means no future support, and when they're gone, they're gone, there's just too much competing activity nowadays.

Rod Petrie - if you're reading this thread and the reports are true, then please, I implore you, think about what you're doing. A huge percentage of this board - a good representation of the fanbase - are passionately and defiantly against this idea. If you do this, you, as much as the vileness that is The Hun, will be guilty of killing Hibs.

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Originally Posted by Cabbage East

A petition has started. Get it signed.

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/s...ampaign=button

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and then wants a donation(with no option to decline), think i'l pass ta

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Originally Posted by H18SVG

They'll change the rules so that yes means no and no means KY Jelly

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:faf:

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Originally Posted by s.a.m

Does anyone know how the other (nonhun) clubs' fans are reacting to this?

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Cheesed off. Pure cheesed off.

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Originally Posted by bighairyfaeleith

no we all can, season ticket holders can withhold payments. Pay at the gate fans can simply not turn up.

All fans can complain to there MP's, MSP's and councillors.

Scotland today just reported the scottish government are watching developments, like I said earlier, time to raise the bar.

This is about the future of our great game, the money men can **** right off if they think they are getting it without a fight!!

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yep, but they will only notice any loss of income AFTER the season starts with the PATG fans, it HAS to be done NOW :)

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Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875

and then wants a donation(with no option to decline), think i'l pass ta

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I just ignored the donation request - the vote was already cast, and I got a confirmation email (in my spam box).

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Originally Posted by ...WentToMowAnSPL

What is Scott Lindsay's email ?

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FWIW here's the e-mail I have just sent

To:
[email protected]
Date:
Jun 28 2012, 10:44 PM
Subject:
Latest press allegations re SFL package to save Newco

Dear Mr Petrie

You said a few weeks ago that you cannot put a price on sporting integrity and I, along with many other Hibernian fans, believed you. So I sincerely hope that this evening's press reports about your involvement in a proposed deal to parachute Rangers Newco into Division 1 of the SFL are not true. Sporting integrity surely means that the new "Rangers" should apply for a place in SFL Division 3.

I have had a season ticket for almost 20 years and have renewed for next season. However, I can assure you that if you support this deal on behalf of Hibernian FC then there will be no way back for me. I will pursue other interests rather than attend Easter Road, will seek a refund on my 2012/13 season ticket and will not renew in future.

Kind regards

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Originally Posted by s.a.m

I just ignored the donation request - the vote was already cast, and I got a confirmation email (in my spam box).

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aah righty just noticed :greengrin sorted :cb

The turkeys in charge of the game have it in their hands to change our game fundamentally for the good and its future. A new structure, a share of the money, a plan that involves the long term development of our game, about returning to skill and enjoyment.

But its christmas the turkeys want to vote for. Change nothing, just wait one year and everything will be 'ok', back to normal.

Time to ring the turkeys necks.

i have emailed hibs to say if hibs vote newco into 1st division then i will hand back my own and my 2 sons season tickets.
petrie has to make a statement on this quick.
also i will be delaying buying new strip for sons till this is sorted.

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Originally Posted by tony

The turkeys in charge of the game have it in their hands to change our game fundamentally for the good and its future. A new structure, a share of the money, a plan that involves the long term development of our game, about returning to skill and enjoyment.

But its christmas the turkeys want to vote for. Change nothing, just wait one year and everything will be 'ok', back to normal.

Time to ring the turkeys necks.

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Great post :not worth

Apparently Alex Thomson is going to look into this nonsense...