Share Transfers Agreed/Cooling off period

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Originally Posted by MysteryBill

P.S. - we on page 500 yet??? :wink:

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Now we are :)

Another good one, anyone know who's behind it?

Andy Barryson @AndyBarryson_8
Gary Locke say's he confident #Hearts will be in the #SPL next season.Ma heedline will be "Gary Locke likes takin the piss"

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Originally Posted by EuanH78

I think I am actually of the opinion that the ubig insolvency is a step too far removed from hearts to warrant the points deduction. However, the spl must be aware that it's in the post for hearts and I wonder if it is this that will inform their decision. Hearts are a dead man walking and must be likely to keel over next season if not the summer so getting rid of them now saves the spl from utter chaos.

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Is it based on whether or not Hearts are wholly owned by UBiG, or the fact that UBIG had significant other interests apart from Hearts?

I am sure the SPL dread the thought of another Gretna situation, with the diet Zombies lurching on from week to week in the top division.

500 pages eh. Mikey must be proud :thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by Filled Rolls

F....ck off! We're the Fund Fighting for 1874, we despise the 1874 Fighting Fund (all spit) and everything they stand for.

I think the time is right to launch a new initiative to save Hearts...I have decided, in the interests of preserving the Edinburgh Derby, to help Hearts to save themselves as they are completely useless at doing it themselves...With extensive experience gained with Hands Off Hibs we, The Hibernian family, are the only group with the neccessary skills that can save this basket case....I have consulted other concerned Hibbies and we have decided to call our rescue committee 'Secure Hearts In Tynecastle' or S.H.I.T for short...we intend to make contact with The Federation Of Hearts Supporters Clubs, The Foundation Of Hearts, The 1874 Fighting Fund, The Gorgie Aggro, Jambos Kickback Committee, The Management of The Brauhaus Bar, The World War 1 War Graves Society, Shawn Lawson, Gary McKay, John Robertson, Jambo Jimmy and Craigyboy to form a united fighting force to ensure Hearts are around for the forseeable future

We intend to embark on a fundraising exercise and all monies raised will go towards buying a time machine from Marty McFly which will take us back in time to a period when Hearts were a normal, well managed club who lived within their means and got humped regulary off Hibs. We will then defy the space/time continuum and transport the whole club into the present period to continue as a going concern with no debts. Tynecastle Stadium main stand will not be required to travel forwards in time as it remains in the same condition now as it was one hundred years ago.

Anyone interested in making a donation make your cheques and postal orders payable to 'Giving to S.H.I.T. All contributions will gleefuly accepted.:wink:

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:faf: Uniting all these groups has to be the way to do it, but what about the Spanish inquisition?

No one expects the Spanish inquisition and they usually steam in just too late right at the end, and the end is surely coming.

I also don't see how you can do it without the Judean Peoples front (Gorgie Branch) and you won't be able to invite them without inviting the Peoples front of Judea (Roseburn and district) or there will be hat kicking at the very least.

Then, once you have recruited a decent brass band for the parade you will be able to start talking to the fans seriously about maybe forming some sort of committee to knock up a letter to the Evening News, or at least agree a wording for the approval of the inner council when they can all make it after their summer holidays.

Mind if you are asking wee shaun along, he isn't allowed to leave his front garden and he has to go to bed straight after his tea so maybe you could relocate S.H.I.T's HQ round to Shaun's?

Next landmark is 2m views.

And that's coming tomorrow :wink:

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Originally Posted by JollyGreenGiant

So, good chance they will sit discussing it most of the afternoon, then release a statement saying that they need more time!!!

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:agree: And the 400,000 will finally do something to save their club, a giant rally of the faithful outside the meeting to maximise the pressure.

There's amateurs....and there's amateurs.

1874 Fighting Fund's reveille was:

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The 1874 Fighting Fund are still getting everything up and running, so please bear with us as other parts come on-stream over the coming days, including; Website; Twitter; Facebook; Email; and Paypal, but we were very keen to start the ball rolling on JKB, at the time the final whistle went,

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:aok:

Professional jakeys.

Heard S.H.I.T. have set up a fund raising scheme through the Rover Owners Club and are doing a fundraiser outside Cardigans r Us tomorrow. That should raise a vintage pair of drivers gloves and a few elbow patches at least.

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Originally Posted by Sergey

There's amateurs....and there's amateurs.

1874 Fighting Fund's reveille was:



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Professional jakeys.

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Had an idle moment while doing some work this evening, decided to see whats what with the Jambos and their efforts to save their club. it seems Save Our Hearts seen to have been offline since mid-November...

http://saveourhearts.com/

Presumably, Hearts are saved, and we'll all get the details soon enough? Or have they been subsumed into another group? Or just too busy baking?

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Originally Posted by jacomoseven

Had an idle moment while doing some work this evening, decided to see whats what with the Jambos and their efforts to save their club. it seems Save Our Hearts seen to have been offline since mid-November...

http://saveourhearts.com/

Presumably, Hearts are saved, and we'll all get the details soon enough? Or have they been subsumed into another group? Or just too busy baking?

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They even think they have no upcoming events- someone better warn them.

i have no faith in the spl to deal with hertz tomorrow, bottle merchants.

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Originally Posted by WHO DAT!

i have no faith in the spl to deal with hertz tomorrow, bottle merchants.

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They must relegate them.Looking at the evidence they have no other option.

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Originally Posted by WHO DAT!

i have no faith in the spl to deal with hertz tomorrow, bottle merchants.

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:agree: nae backbone

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Originally Posted by Greendrongo

They must relegate them.Looking at the evidence they have no other option.

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They'll make another option up
They have previous for it

I want them gone as quickly as possible, I'm quite happy to see them in a steady decline until the end of 2015 though.

Why does this thread state there is a decision being made tomorrow on points dieduction? They have only said they are meeting to discuss the situation. It isn't even main business of the day.

There is a meeting on reconstruction and this board meeting has been tagged on at the end. The only likely decision that will be made tomorrow is whether to have cakes or biscuits with their coffee.

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Originally Posted by WHO DAT!

i have no faith in the spl to deal with hertz tomorrow, bottle merchants.

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Originally Posted by Greendrongo

They must relegate them.Looking at the evidence they have no other option.

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Originally Posted by NumberSeven

:agree: nae backbone

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The main thing is, we can't lose.

Either way, they have enough rope to hang themselves :wink: NewCo will be watching this one :greengrin

Enjoy the ride :aok:

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Originally Posted by jacomoseven

Is it based on whether or not Hearts are wholly owned by UBiG, or the fact that UBIG had significant other interests apart from Hearts?

I am sure the SPL dread the thought of another Gretna situation, with the diet Zombies lurching on from week to week in the top division.

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I'm not sure. Whilst only the deluded or insane would claim hearts are self sustained in any real sense the truth is they are still trading at the moment. I just don't think the spl could take the risk of keeping them with the odds stacked on them collapsing very soon. Points deduction must be the cautious option.

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Originally Posted by Spike Mandela

Why does this thread state there is a decision being made tomorrow on points dieduction? They have only said they are meeting to discuss the situation. It isn't even main business of the day.

There is a meeting on reconstruction and this board meeting has been tagged on at the end. The only likely decision that will be made tomorrow is whether to have cakes or biscuits with their coffee.

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It's been added to the agenda at the first possible opportunity which would suggest it has a somewhat high priority. The story was that the board had already discussed this at length on Thursday. Whatever happens tomorrow the SPL will need to at least make a statement.

It may just be that the spl needed to be 100% sure of the translation about ubig... The difference between applying for administration or actually being in administration.

Either way the post by euanH78 above comes into play: the issue isn't whether ubig are going into admin, it's whether it's technically this season or next when it is confirmed...and that means either way hearts are in danger of not fulfilling future fixtures.

If I was an spl chairman I'd want that to be someone else's problem ie the sfl

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Originally Posted by Bajillions

It's been added to the agenda at the first possible opportunity which would suggest it has a somewhat high priority. The story was that the board had already discussed this at length on Thursday. Whatever happens tomorrow the SPL will need to at least make a statement.

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I fully expect a statement saying there will be a statement when they have something to state. I can't believe the confidence some people have in this SPL board to actually make a decision.

Doncaster often quotes making decisions "withot fear or favour" but during the Rangers debacle he was quivering with fear when cornered and tried everything to favour Rangers.

This bunch of incompetent fools will do nothing tomorrow.

I don't think the SPL will not announce their decision tomorrow but will try to clarify whether or not an "insolvency event" has occurred. Just because the stage of placing yourself on a register doesn't occur in the UK it does not mean that this event will not result in a points deduction. The SPL will want to make sure they are correct in this assumption. They are in the process of getting a new sponsor and will want to make sure they are correct and it doesn't drag on all summer putting off potential sponsors. I think an announcement will be made later in the week by the SPL. However events concerning Hearts future viability may supersede their decision.

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Originally Posted by Bajillions

Ironically if that happens, Hearts would have an even better claim to get it reversed as that's not one of the available sanctions.

My understanding is that only one of three things will happen tomorrow, they are

1) Hearts will be deducted 18 points and thus relegated from the SPL. (The most likely as this is the most universally accepted interpretation of the rules.)

2) Hearts will be deducted 15 points for next season (this is the least likely because the "insolvency event" occurred this season, it would take a fair bit of bending)

3) The SPL will declare that UBIG are seperate enough from Hearts that a points deduction is not required at this stage. (This would come under massive scrutiny as there will be many interested parties, specifically Dundee and Rangers but is plausible)

So worst case scenario is 3 but even if that does happen, nothing really changes and Hearts STILL have major financial difficulties coupled with a couple of administrators potentially chasing them.

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There is no doubt that there has been an "insolvency event" prior to the end of this season because what UBIG did on Thursday is defined as such an event in the SPL rules. So I don't see how your option 2 can possibly be applied. It's also clear that because Hearts FC are part of a "group undertaking" which includes UBIG, the SPL can legitimately deduct 18 points. However, whether they do so in this type of case is at the discretion of the SPL board. They have to exercise that discretion taking into account 2 things. The first is the need to protect the "integrity and continuity of the league". The second is the relationship between Hearts FC and the group undertaking of which it is a part. The YAMS are majoring on the second point as they think they can argue the relationship is not close enough. Their problem is whether the SPL can also be convinced that letting them off would protect the integrity and continuity of the league. This really could go either way.

Monday.


Are they deed yet?

It's Monday - tic tock...:chop:

For any yams looking in.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2I84-A9duY :lolyam:

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Originally Posted by PatHead

Heard S.H.I.T. have set up a fund raising scheme through the Rover Owners Club and are doing a fundraiser outside Cardigans r Us tomorrow. That should raise a vintage pair of drivers gloves and a few elbow patches at least.

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Heard they're to have a mass sweety paper rustling demo outside the asbestos dome and a cake recipe swap session is planned - could turn nasty.

So who's going for post 15000?!

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Originally Posted by Jones28

So who's going for post 15000?!

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you can have it.....oops