I don’t think they’re vastly superior, from what I’ve seen of them in this tournament. They’re nowhere near the level they were a few years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
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I don’t think they’re vastly superior, from what I’ve seen of them in this tournament. They’re nowhere near the level they were a few years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
If Scotland win 1-0 and England lose 2-0, what happens next.
Both teams will have four points, with a -1 goal difference having scored one goal. An identical record.
Goes to disciplinary record.Quote:
Originally Posted by theonlywayisup
Yep then if that's identical England would go through due to being the higher ranked team.Quote:
Originally Posted by B.H.F.C
That is a ridiculous rule if true. It should actually be the opposite as being the better team should mean they need to commit less fouls etc. Pretty much sums up modern football thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Sir David Gray
What a rule that is, wow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir David Gray
Great. We've just found a new way to unlucky get knocked out at the group stages.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir David Gray
I very much doubt it will come to that :greengrin. Let's at least score a goal in the tournament then see what happens.Quote:
Originally Posted by DH1875
https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro-2020/n...o-go-through/#Quote:
Originally Posted by wookie70
You are right enough, a coin toss or corners etc would be far fairerQuote:
Originally Posted by Sir David Gray
"20.01 If two or more teams in the same group are equal on points on completion of thefinal tournament group stage, the following criteria are applied, in the ordergiven, to determine their rankings:a. higher number of points obtained in the matches played among the teams inquestion;b. superior goal difference resulting from the matches played among the teamsin question;c. higher number of goals scored in the matches played among the teams inquestion;d. if, after having applied criteria a) to c), teams still have an equal ranking,criteria a) to c) are reapplied exclusively to the matches between theremaining teams to determine their final rankings. If this procedure does notlead to a decision, criteria e) to i) apply in the order given to the two or moreteams still equal:e. superior goal difference in all group matches;f. higher number of goals scored in all group matches;g. higher number of wins in all group matches;h. lower disciplinary points total based only on yellow and red cards received inall group matches (red card = 3 points, yellow card = 1 point, expulsion fortwo yellow cards in one match = 3 points);i. position in the overall European Qualifiers rankings (see Article 23)."
It needs about 7 different tie breakers to be identical, I don't think its something to worry about, and I really don't think it sums up modern football at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by wookie70
It has never and probably will never happen.
It shouldn't be there at all though.Quote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
I agree. It should be decided on a game of kerby.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
There's the chance it could though and that is wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
The Czechs and England both know a draw takes them both through. They might not deliberately play for it but if its still level after the break then I'll not be surprised in the least if it plays out like that. Seen it plenty times before.
Which would give England an easier tie in next round, albeit it wouldn't be in England. Would they prefer say Sweden/Slovakia/Spain in Copenhagen to Germany at Wembley?Quote:
Originally Posted by BroxburnHibee
What to watch at 5pm ?
ITV Holland v N Macedonia
ITV4 Ukraine v Austria
Ukraine v Austria---anything but a draw---Austria need the winQuote:
Originally Posted by BILLYHIBS
Can they not both play out a draw? Think one would play Italy if a draw.Quote:
Originally Posted by SJNB Hibby
:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by SJNB Hibby
Bit risky for Austria--theyd be 3rd and not sure of a play-off spot. Would love to see Ukraine get thru and play Russia---would be worse than us vs EnglandQuote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
Think the Ukraine forward Yaremcuk has looked very good. Strong quick and a goal threat.
Anyone know what the disciplinary record is for Scotland and England?Quote:
Originally Posted by PatHead
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Originally Posted by SJNB Hibby
SJM(and one other)booked v england
that's all i know :)
England -1Quote:
Originally Posted by SJNB Hibby
Scotland -2
Yeah----we're on 2 yellows, them on oneQuote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
Hurt me head looking at all the permutations, but second place (Ukraine with a draw) gets Italy, and third (if they advance) will get, I think, either winner of the group of death France/Germany/Portugal or winner of Sweden/Slovakia/Spain. woof.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
1-0 Austria
keeper has to do better there
YES!!!!! deserved goal for Osterreich
Ukraine 0 v 1 Austria