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21-02-2012, 06:59 PM
johnbc70

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Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod

You really think so? :wink:

He will claim not to know where it came from, but yes he more than likely knew and turned a blind eye or did not care where it came from.
21-02-2012, 06:59 PM
oregonhibby

I note according to the BBC a Hibs supporter is interested in Rangers. One Brian Kennedy!
21-02-2012, 07:00 PM
CropleyWasGod

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Originally Posted by johnbc70

He will claim not to know where it came from, but yes he more than likely knew and turned a blind eye or did not care where it came from.

:agree:
21-02-2012, 07:05 PM
DH1875

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Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod

Rangers aren't due anything to Ticketus.Ticketus bought season tickets for the next 4 years (3 if you believe CW). They will then sell these to supporters, at a profit.As for the liquidation question.... if these tickets are worthless in a future RFC scenario, they appear to have been underwritten by CW.

Aye, cause Whytes got the money for 80,000 season tickets at £500 a pop :fibber:.
21-02-2012, 07:07 PM
Jonnyboy

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Originally Posted by oregonhibby

I note according to the BBC a Hibs supporter is interested in Rangers. One Brian Kennedy!

Indeed! Maybe he could do a Stockport County on them :greengrin
21-02-2012, 07:10 PM
CropleyWasGod

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Originally Posted by DH1875

Aye, cause Whytes got the money for 80,000 season tickets at £500 a pop :fibber:.

Well, if he is giving Ticketus a guarantee, you would expect them to do some due diligence on him.

Just like SDM did :rolleyes:
21-02-2012, 07:26 PM
EuanH78

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Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod

Rangers aren't due anything to Ticketus.

Ticketus bought season tickets for the next 4 years (3 if you believe CW). They will then sell these to supporters, at a profit.

As for the liquidation question.... if these tickets are worthless in a future RFC scenario, they appear to have been underwritten by CW.

I thought RFC owns MP.... the admins seem to think so, too.

Seems legit to me :tee hee:

http://verydemotivational.files.word...ms-legit31.jpg
21-02-2012, 09:39 PM
thekaratekid

Apparently Rangers owned 16 shares in Arsenal. They probably held historical significance for the club.

Whyte sold them in December.
21-02-2012, 11:07 PM
Hibernia&Alba

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Originally Posted by johnbc70

So we know he lied when he originally denied he used the Ticketus money to buy the club, today he has admitted he did indeed use that money. Interview on Sky has said that is illegal to buy a business using the assets of that business, it is a breach of the Finance Assistance Rules.

I think it comes down to the fact that he paid £1 for the club, therefore he bought the club fair and square for £1 from SDM. SDM however would only sell him the club on the basis he proved his own wealth by depositing £18M into an account, this was done with the Ticketus money but SDM must have been under the impression it was his own money so he agreed to sell, when infact as we now know it was Rangers own season ticket money that was mortgaged to Ticketus. So SDM is the fool in this case as he sold him the club thinking he has his own wealth.

So looks like he bought the club in a fair manner, he has fooled SDM though as the money was not his in that account it was Rangers own money. So I think he has done nothing wrong in the actual buying of the club? The non payment of tax and national insurance etc is another matter though.

Its great entertainment though!

That's how it looks. Whyte has invested the princely sum of wan poon in Rangers :greengrin. He's lied through his teeth about the funding of the payment to Lloyds and has been found out. He must have thought he'd make an absolute killing, potentially making millions for a one pound stake if the club comes out of administration debt free. And if they're liquidated, wouldn't Ibrox and other assets be his to sell off? A con man.
21-02-2012, 11:58 PM
Spike Mandela

Tom English dissects the Whyte statement for the fabric of lies it is, great stuff...............

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/footba...ions_1_2130718
22-02-2012, 12:18 AM
Hibernia&Alba

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Originally Posted by Spike Mandela

Tom English dissects the Whyte statement for the fabric of lies it is, great stuff...............

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/footba...ions_1_2130718

Thanks for the link. I defy anyone to read that without forming a grin as wide as the Forth Bridge :lolrangers:
22-02-2012, 02:46 AM
JeMeSouviens

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Originally Posted by Spike Mandela

Tom English dissects the Whyte statement for the fabric of lies it is, great stuff...............

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/footba...ions_1_2130718

Hell hath no fury like a second rate hack scorned. English must feel a right tit given the amount of Whyte's PR he regurgitated last year. :wink:
22-02-2012, 06:59 AM
Viva_Palmeiras

Rule Britannia!
Craig Whyte smiles and waves
Britain never, never, never
Shall get paid!
22-02-2012, 11:56 AM
green glory

Apparently CW has flogged the shares Rangers have held in Arsenal since the 1930's for 200 grand. The Teddy Bears on Verminmedia are very non-plussed indeed. Ho Ho.
22-02-2012, 12:46 PM
John_the_angus_hibby

Ouch! :)

** Rangers 'treated fairly' over tax **
The tax authorities deny claims that Rangers Football Club is being treated unfairly over its tax debts.
< http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...-west-17127983 >

Sent from another universe!
22-02-2012, 01:03 PM
ano hibby

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Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens

Hell hath no fury like a second rate hack scorned. English must feel a right tit given the amount of Whyte's PR he regurgitated last year. :wink:

Correct, Whyte had him in his pocket for a while. This is the start of some decent revenge mind you:agree:
A worthwhile read.
22-02-2012, 01:38 PM
jgl07

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Originally Posted by VivaPalmeiras

Rule Britannia!
Craig Whyte smiles and waves
Britain never, never, never
Shall get paid!

If Rangers get away with this the song will become:

Rule Britannia,
Britannia waives the rules
22-02-2012, 03:19 PM
Hibernia&Alba

I had a read of a couple of Hun forums earlier, and it's like witnessing the collapse of the Third Reich :lolrangers:
22-02-2012, 03:20 PM
Sylar

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...-west-17128997

Can Craig Whyte account for his whereabouts?
22-02-2012, 03:25 PM
CropleyWasGod

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Originally Posted by green glory

Apparently CW has flogged the shares Rangers have held in Arsenal since the 1930's for 200 grand. The Teddy Bears on Verminmedia are very non-plussed indeed. Ho Ho.

Actually, on a moral level, this is almost as bad as it gets for me. I struggle to find sympathy for the "wee arra people" mentality, but this shares things harks back to the days when there was a bit of dignity and morality about football.

CW really has sold off part of the club's heritage here, a part that they should feel proud of.

The ironic thing is that, according to Keith Jackson, he paid the cash into his stockbroking firm's account......

..............which has been frozen by the FSA. :rolleyes:
22-02-2012, 03:33 PM
easty

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Originally Posted by Spike Mandela

Tom English dissects the Whyte statement for the fabric of lies it is, great stuff...............

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/footba...ions_1_2130718

I wouldn't particularly call it great....it borders on amateurish in my opinion. If someone had posted it on here as there own opinions/post then that would have been good, but for a 'journo' to pass that off as an article for a news website is pretty poor.
22-02-2012, 03:34 PM
Since90+2

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Originally Posted by green glory

Apparently CW has flogged the shares Rangers have held in Arsenal since the 1930's for 200 grand. The Teddy Bears on Verminmedia are very non-plussed indeed. Ho Ho.

Im surprised that football clubs are allowed to hold shares in other clubs , does anyone know of any other examples of this?
22-02-2012, 03:36 PM
CropleyWasGod

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Originally Posted by SunnyLeith

Im surprised that football clubs are allowed to hold shares in other clubs , does anyone know of any other examples of this?

There is probably a limit.

Rangers only had 22 shares in the Arse, and it was symbolic rather than commercial.

A bit like ma shares in Hubz...
22-02-2012, 03:46 PM
ancienthibby

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Originally Posted by SunnyLeith

Im surprised that football clubs are allowed to hold shares in other clubs , does anyone know of any other examples of this?

It goes back more than 100 years though, so I'd imagine there's been some changes in the meantime.

If someone offered me £14,000 for each of my Hibs shares, I might just be tempted to sell one!:greengrin

On another matter, 'one booted-outed by CW' director, Dave King, seen leaving Castle Greyskull accompanied by the pie-munching manager.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/scotland/17130753

It's been a slow day for soap opera developments!:greengrin
22-02-2012, 04:32 PM
truehibernian

News coming through that the SPL are going to investigate Rangers for alleged sectarian chanting against Kilmarnock......good....about time they get absolutely hammered, and hopefully yet more points docked or worse. Let's hear Salmond defend this 'institution' who on Saturday had thousands being 'institutionally sectarian'.
22-02-2012, 04:35 PM
CropleyWasGod

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Originally Posted by truehibernian

News coming through that the SPL are going to investigate Rangers for alleged sectarian chanting against Kilmarnock......good....about time they get absolutely hammered, and hopefully yet more points docked or worse. Let's hear Salmond defend this 'institution' who on Saturday had thousands being 'institutionally sectarian'.

Kick a man when he's down, why don't they?

:greengrin
22-02-2012, 04:40 PM
Andy74

Bad timing on our part to be p1sh. Could have been a big Champions league qualifying clash tonight!
22-02-2012, 04:43 PM
Andy74

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Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod

Kick a man when he's down, why don't they?

:greengrin

Why not? :greengrin

Seriously though, I think this will bring out the elements in the support that they have been trying (not oo much though) to keep under control.

There were certainly threads on their fans' sites to that effect that they might as well just do as they like.

The authorities need to make sure that they are still required to refrain from all this stuff whether they are goosed or not.
22-02-2012, 04:48 PM
truehibernian

A further 20 point deduction would make it interesting.
22-02-2012, 04:49 PM
Viva_Palmeiras

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Originally Posted by jgl07

If Rangers get away with this the song will become:

Rule Britannia,
Britannia waives the rules

Nice one!

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