I'm suggesting we don't require to be actively unhelpful. We don't need to be spinning cartwheels.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
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I'm suggesting we don't require to be actively unhelpful. We don't need to be spinning cartwheels.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
You mean keep quiet, dont mention how we feel?Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy74
Our club is in a mess, even you must see that, its only normal to speak about how some folk feel?
If it gets better, i'm sure the mood will rise, but as we are at a very low ebb, its no surprise to me folk are hardly giving high fives all over the board.
I dont really understand how some folk venting thier frustrations on a fans messageboard is being actively unhelpful? It's not as though there are posse's of disgruntled fans going round potential targets doors and telling them we dinnae want thier kind at Easter Road.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy74
It also appears that nobody at Hibs can do anything right compared to the whiners on here.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
At that final, I mind that the first scarf was thrown torwards the pitch after we went 1-0 down. Part of the reason we have losers on the pitch is that we have too many losers in the stands who aren't prepared to take positive action but will instead whine and moan about every single thing about the club.
Got to say, the 12th man and S43 are to be commended, it's groups like that we need.
I fully await some absolute idiot post something in reply such as "So it's all our fault that x can't play" etc. etc. etc. because as I say, too many losers in our support. PF is onto something when he says that this club is too soft - in all areas.
FFS, we've just signed a player from a side who are going towards the Champions League qualifying rounds, can we not enjoy that for just a couple of hours?
The mood and the culture is set as much by us as anyone at the club.Quote:
Originally Posted by easty
No, there's not a lot to be happy about, but I wonder if some folk constantly sniping, repeating a lot of well worn out and disproved nonsense and generally making everyone even more miserable is helping to create an environment where fans feel they want to contribute or somewhere where players want to play?
I see from the other thread we have 5,000 season ticket holders, despite some new people signing up for final tickets.
We can go out our way to tell everyone who crap everything is but I'm not sure what that is helping people to achieve?
What a load of *****.Quote:
Originally Posted by Northernhibee
If people want to complain when things are going badly then they have every right to.
If you want to make crap up (like the bit of your post I've put in bold) then I'll add this as some more nonsensical ramblings - if you maybe spent more time supporting the team on the park than looking around you to see who was the first numpty to through thier scarf on the pitch when Hearts scored, maybe we'd have less losers on the pitch.
Complaining when things go badly is fine surely?Quote:
Originally Posted by easty
It's going out the way to look for the worst situation in everything that gets a bit tiring and is not helping the current culture in the support, who are the club.
We're already complaining about signings that haven't been made and telling everyone exactly what mistakes Hibs will make.
Most of it misinformation based on stuff like Hibs sign players to late which is largely not true when the stas are actually looked at. Or everything gets run by Petrie which isn't true either.
I'm happy we have signed someone, i did not throw my scarf away at the final, i did leave after 85 minutes though. I agree the 12th man and section 43 are doing a grand job, i also reserve the right to talk on a Hibs fans message board just how i feel, at any time during or out of the season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Northernhibee
I'm going to belgium, have a season ticket for next season and support the club whenever in the stadium, i dont need any permission to tell it as i see it on Hibs.net, from you or anyone else.
But the fans mood and culture is directly influenced by choices made by the club over which we have little/no say. Fans will always be happy when things are going well, and angry or frustrated when things arent going well. We're quite clearly in the latter camp at the moment. The right choices need to be made by the board (bring in the right manager), the manager (bring in the right players) and the coaching staff (get the best out of what we have).Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy74
I'm not happy about where we're at just now, but seeing folk post on here about how badly the clubs being run, how crap the players we're looking at are, etc., etc, doesnt bother me. It's not a new phenomenon, people complain all the time about pretty much everything in life. Just let them (me :greengrin) get on with it...
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At least half those statements are ridiculosuly incorrect :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy74
Where about?Quote:
Originally Posted by mcvie7
:faf: Whoosh.Quote:
Originally Posted by fergy
I keep hearing the name Neil Alexander being touted about,anybody heard anything similar? I'd take him in a minute. :agree:
Not easier, I wouldn't think - strikers who score goals are a very rare commodity, and we can either sign them from teams at a lower level than us (as we have done with Doyle and seem to have with Cairney), or sign players who have played at a higher level but have had problems off the field (like we did with Stokes and Riordan) or with injury, which we may do here.Quote:
Originally Posted by allezsauzee
As I said before, there is a lot more to a target man's game than scoring goals, moves can only be finished of if they can be started in the first place, which such players are pivotal for - not to mention being a menace at set pieces, which can cause havoc for other players to benefit from, and having defensive qualities also. Kyle was hugely important in Hearts finishing 3rd and (by Billy Brown's own admission), their form dropped like a stone after he got injured - it wasn't a coincidence.
And a Skacel type player? You mean a midfield player who has a scoring record of 48 goals in 90 starts? Hardly many of them kicking about within our budget, or even a bit above our budget for that matter.
Kyle's injury problems are an undoubted concern, but you never know - last season Sandaza was an injury prone striker who had hardly got started in the SPL, he was a revelation with a run of games behind him. With the right kind of deal in place, Kyle could be a great signing.
Incidentally, having a couple of wingers feeding a big aeriel threat like Kyle would be very effective - a potential strike partnership with Doyle sounds appealing too.
Alexander would be a superb signing, looked good whenever Ive seen and lots of experience (even though he hasnt played much at Rangers). I think his wages would be a problem but I suppose it depends what he wants out of a move (which could be his last club), he might be happy to be first choice until he retires.Quote:
Originally Posted by H18sry
Were you here when we were clear in 3rd place? :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by easty
Few months before Kyle left Killie to sign for them he was speaking to a mate at a German Airport where he had gone for some treatment. He told him he was finished and would never pass another medical. Then he signs for Hearts :confused: I'm speculating here but maybe Hearts knew they would get a few games a season out of him and decided it was worth the gamble. Based on his chat with my mate i don't think we could expect a fully fit KK at any time so I would rather we looked elsewhere.
KK is a good player to be honest. Ive never seen him lose in the air and he holds the ball up superbly well. hated his attitude as a hearts player though but i think it would be a great signing but as mentioned his fitness would be a big risk.
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Originally Posted by Northernhibee
You must never have watched any of the Hibs matches against Killie when Kyle was up against Bamba?Quote:
Originally Posted by just_joe
Kyle rarely won anything in the air against Sol.
I remember one game at easter road against Killie, and it was a hell of a battle between the two of them. Both kicked lumps out of each other, and Kyle won his share of headers, i'm not sure what that means, as Kyle is always injured, and Bamba was a bombscare? :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by BEEJ
Bamba did have those 'episodes' when his mind appeared to be on other things.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
But when he applied himself to the task, as he had to when up against someone of Kyle's stature, Bamba was invariably one of our best players. I genuinely don't recall Kyle in a Killie jersey having a good match against us when Bamba was in our back four.
As for the story that we're interested in Kyle? He's well and truly crocked - it must be a non-starter. :pray:
I think we won the match 1-0, although not 100% sure? It was a right ding dong battle between them, in fact there were threads on here with some folk saying they wished we'd signed Kyle instead of him going to Killie.Quote:
Originally Posted by BEEJ
I agree with you on Kyle, i cant see how he will ever be fit, although if he was i would sign him.
As for bamba, in my opinion i have not seen us have a better centre half in 45 years watching the club, Jim Black is the first i really remember, although i did see John McNamee a few times, but i was young and cant remember him that much.
Le God?
I always remember kyle touching bamba downstairs at a corner at rugby park, the big man was riled by that :greengrin
If we were to sign an ex hearts striker, id prefer it to be Beatie :cbQuote:
Originally Posted by just_joe
ggtth
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Originally Posted by mcvie7
Well, that's a good sign at least.
Now all we need is a goalkeeper, another couple of back-four defenders, 2 or three midfielders, and a couple of strikers ...
And here's hoping - if we get them - that they knit into a team and don't all fall out with one another. :devil:
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Agreed. He had his moments for sure but, when focused on hibs and his own game, he was one of our best in my lifetime. I still think that Sven cost us millions by dropping him from the ivory coast team. He didn't get the exposure required for a big move and his attitude was pretty appalling when he decided to eventually saunter back to us.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs